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Neil G
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Would have been anyway. If Bernie had won the nomination the Democrat establishment would have put as much energy into sabotaging his campaign as they have into fighting any Republican.

Chairman Meow
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It's the same over here.   I've said this before on here, we're involved in conflicts I think we should be staying out of and shouldn't be there. However, if you're sending people over there

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Section_31 Grand Master

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Grim but fascinatung what happens when you remove a leader, any leadership really, from a situation.

 

The biggest damage caused by Trump isn't simply that he's incendiary and a cunt, it's that he simply doesn't care.

 

When you saw the storms lashing Puerto Rico and he was throwing kitchen roll at people then fucked off, subconsciously a lot of Americans probably started to think "I'm on my own here.". And they reacted accordingly. 

 

Some people, especially in america, like that idea, the loons with bomb shelters who think the federal government is (literally) the spawn of Satan. Most ordinary people won't. 

 

It's a basic human psychology thing. Even if a leader or government can't sort something you like them to at least pretend they can, or to at least give the impression they've got a handle on it. That's why they call the president the consoler in chief.

 

So when  you see scenes like that you see protesters who feel like nobody will give them justice if they don't fight for it, you see coppers taking no real direction about what they can and can't do, you see governors/mayors making it up as they go along, and press trying to avoid being shot because there are no longer any norms or rules or engagement.

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7 minutes ago, Vincent Vega said:

All this mayhem is going to hand the cheesy Wotsit faced Honey Monster another term isn’t it?

They should just have a civil war and split the country in half, one half of liberal-ass do gooders ruled from New York by Oprah Winfrey, and a bunch of rifle-owning, toothless Billy Graham loving helmets based out of Shitbag, Nebraska.

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39 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

They should just have a civil war and split the country in half, one half of liberal-ass do gooders ruled from New York by Oprah Winfrey, and a bunch of rifle-owning, toothless Billy Graham loving helmets based out of Shitbag, Nebraska.

Mason-Dixon Line but somehow connecting New York and California.

 

 

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Michael Moore warns that Donald Trump is on course to repeat 2016 win 

Film-maker says enthusiasm for president in swing states is ‘off the charts’ and urges everyone to commit to getting 100 people to vote

 
Edward Helmore in New York
Published: 17:39 Saturday, 29 August 2020
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The documentary film-maker Michael Moore has warned that Donald Trump appears to have such momentum in some battleground states that liberals risk a repeat of 2016 when so many wrote off Trump only to see him grab the White House.

 

“Sorry to have to provide the reality check again,” he said.

 

Moore, who was one of few political observers to predict Trump’s victory over Hillary Clinton in 2016, said that “enthusiasm for Trump is off the charts” in key areas compared with the Democratic party nominee, Joe Biden.

 

“Are you ready for a Trump victory? Are you mentally prepared to be outsmarted by Trump again? Do you find comfort in your certainty that there is no way Trump can win? Are you content with the trust you’ve placed in the DNC [Democratic National Committee] to pull this off?” Moore posted on Facebook late on Friday.

 

Moore identified opinion polling in battleground states such as Minnesota and Michigan to make a case that the sitting president is running alongside or ahead of his rival.

 

“The Biden campaign just announced he’ll be visiting a number of states – but not Michigan. Sound familiar?” Moore wrote, presumably indicating Hillary Clinton’s 2016 race when she made the error of avoiding some states that then swung to Trump.

“I’m warning you almost 10 weeks in advance. The enthusiasm level for the 60 million in Trump’s base is OFF THE CHARTS! For Joe, not so much,” he later added.

 

He continued to voters: “Don’t leave it to the Democrats to get rid of Trump. YOU have to get rid of Trump. WE have to wake up every day for the next 67 days and make sure each of us are going to get a hundred people out to vote. ACT NOW!”

 

Moore cited CNN polling of registered voters this month to assert that “Biden and Trump were in a virtual tie”, including a poll that showed the pair tied at 47% in Minnesota. Moore said that Trump “has closed the gap to 4 points” in Michigan.

 

A national CNN poll this month showed that Biden’s lead over Trump has narrowed nationally, 50% to 46%, while a survey from the Republican-leaning Trafalgar Group found Biden and Trump statistically tied at 47% in Minnesota, and Trump narrowly leading Biden in Michigan. The margin of error for the poll, which surveyed 1,048 people, is 2.98%.

 

Moore, a vocal supporter of Bernie Sanders’s leftwing candidacy, warned in October 2016 that “Trump’s election is going to be the biggest ‘f*** you’ ever recorded in human history – and it will feel good,” even as Clinton appeared to be sailing to victory.

“Whether Trump means it or not is kind of irrelevant because he’s saying the things to people who are hurting, and that’s why every beaten-down, nameless, forgotten working stiff who used to be part of what was called the middle class loves Trump,” Moore warned at that time.

 

Moore’s latest warnings come as Trump said at a campaign event in New Hampshire on Friday night that he supported seeing the first female president of the United States, but recommended his daughter over the Democratic vice-presidential candidate Kamala Harris.

 

“They’re all saying ‘we want Ivanka,’” Trump told his supporters. “I don’t blame them.”

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Interesting interview with a former Republican strategist - now working for the Lincoln Project - talking about the history of the party and where he thinks it's headed. He's also asked about the Lincoln Project specifically and whether he thinks there might be ramifications down the line for the Democratic party for getting into bed with them. Well worth a watch.

 

 

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