Press coverage and how the mancs are twats

[Nightcat]

That's Geoff Thomas level wide of the mark.

There is no mark, really.

[Brigant Moloch]

 

 

Alex Ferguson's 'sad' autobiography torn to shreds by Liverpool boss Brendan Rodgers

 

 

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/alex-fergusons-sad-autobiography-torn-2528237?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

 

go Brendan

[Gnasher]

That's Geoff Thomas level wide of the mark.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VUU0fSjXKCg

[Jhinge Machha]

No seriously, I cant find it anywhere on the net. I doubt anybody else on here will have the book so LFC64, do you?

 

theres an article on talksport that mentions all this. its from his older book.

http://talksport.com/football/revealed-forgotten-alex-ferguson-book-you-must-read-13102365107

 

"A flare up on Saturday between [Peter] Schmeichel and [ian] Wright has spilled into the newspapers. There's been a complaint to the FA that our goalkeeper racially abused the Arsenal man… The whole business of racial abuse seems to have got out of hand these days. A few years back, when Paul Ince was involved in an incident at Wembley once, I asked him why he got so upset when someone called him black. After all, he frequently referred to me as a Scottish so-and-so, so what was the difference? He told me the Scots aren't a race; naturally I had to remind him that we are in fact the master race!"

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" One thing in Bernard Manning's favour is that, for all his often offensive racism, he does an awful lot of good charitable work."

[Mathewbet1]

We were right all along he's fucking demento!

 

 

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[Dr Nowt]

There is no mark, really.

Oh right, ok. Well if this isn't a thread bound by realism then I've never liked his ginger hair, or those awful skirts he wears.

[Jay86]

The man is just pure poison. So glad to see Brendan sticking up for our club. How anyone can still criticise Rodgers is beyond me, he doesn't take any shit from anybody slagging us off, including that twat, when many others just lap up his every word.

 

Him and Kenny are cut from the same clothe.

[LFC64]

 

theres an article on talksport that mentions all this. its from his older book.

http://talksport.com/football/revealed-forgotten-alex-ferguson-book-you-must-read-13102365107

 

"A flare up on Saturday between [Peter] Schmeichel and [ian] Wright has spilled into the newspapers. There's been a complaint to the FA that our goalkeeper racially abused the Arsenal man… The whole business of racial abuse seems to have got out of hand these days. A few years back, when Paul Ince was involved in an incident at Wembley once, I asked him why he got so upset when someone called him black. After all, he frequently referred to me as a Scottish so-and-so, so what was the difference? He told me the Scots aren't a race; naturally I had to remind him that we are in fact the master race!"

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" One thing in Bernard Manning's favour is that, for all his often offensive racism, he does an awful lot of good charitable work."

 

Ferguson just doesn't have the honesty required for an autobiography. He will say whatever he needs to say to manipulate people or engineer a situation to his own advantage.

The above typical contradiction being a good example.

[VERBAL DIARRHEA]

You only have to remember what the guy at St Mirren said when he sacked him he is " immature and petty " this after sacking him because he was going to do the bunk to Aberdeen and had been in the players ears.

 

He was the first manager I believe to take a club on over Unfair Dismissal, and lost.

 

The guy also said he had " No managerial ability " so he was wrong about something, but not Ferguson's personality.

 

As Jon Snow said, he ruled like Stalin.

[fowler9]

The man is just pure poison. So glad to see Brendan sticking up for our club. How anyone can still criticise Rodgers is beyond me, he doesn't take any shit from anybody slagging us off, including that twat, when many others just lap up his every word.

 

Him and Kenny are cut from the same clothe.

 

I love Brendan, people have different levels of expectation with regard to our football club at the moment which is hopefully on the rise again from a poor stint so whilst I disagree I can understand why some may not be happy with what he is done on the football side of things (I think he has done very well however with some to be expected mistakes) but as a person I don't see how any Liverpool fan can not think he is ace

[etho]

Brendan Rodgers has dealt with this very classily. He isn't cosy with the media in the Harry Redknapp sense, but from articles I've been reading, even in the Mail, he seems to carry a lot of respect in those circles.

[SCOUSE TAPAS]

From the very start of the 90s United and Ferguson started to change the way clubs did things in football for the benefit of the club. They went so far ahead of every other club in what they done in the background to other clubs and it took a good ten years or more for other clubs to start catching them up.

They realised more than any other team what the premier league was about to offer and took full advantage of it. From the expanding of the ground to the youth teams. From investing in the team to leaking stories to the press about other teams , to sending refs wives flowers on there birthdays and sending the kids United strips and season tickets on there birthdays and christmas .

They totally exploited the United brand to the maximum and it sure as hell paid off for them. Ferguson was at the head of all this and it was the team you didnt see behind him that was installing these practices that every other team in Premier league now use as well.

What I have just mentioned is a very small part of what they started doing to put United in front of everyone else. I imagine in years to come everything will eventually come out about that small team of people in which Ferguson was one actually done at that time.

It certainly changed the whole way of how clubs operated both footballing and media wise. Even now everybody is getting wound up with whats in his book and you should be asking yourself why.

The answer is probably to do with well no ex Liverpool manager would do that and in that answer lies the reason to which United pulled so far ahead of us. They done/do things different to what we do and there run as a club with a view to the future and not of one run as a club from decades past.

[moof]

Brendan Rodgers has dealt with this very classily. He isn't cosy with the media in the Harry Redknapp sense, but from articles I've been reading, even in the Mail, he seems to carry a lot of respect in those circles.

That's a very good point. Many journalists seem to hold him in pretty high esteem, which can only be good for us.

[KMD7]

Impressed by Rogers again.  I love him.  Fuck off whiskey breath

[Barney_Rubble]

From the very start of the 90s United and Ferguson started to change the way clubs did things in football for the benefit of the club. They went so far ahead of every other club in what they done in the background to other clubs and it took a good ten years or more for other clubs to start catching them up.

They realised more than any other team what the premier league was about to offer and took full advantage of it. From the expanding of the ground to the youth teams. From investing in the team to leaking stories to the press about other teams , to sending refs wives flowers on there birthdays and sending the kids United strips and season tickets on there birthdays and christmas .

They totally exploited the United brand to the maximum and it sure as hell paid off for them. Ferguson was at the head of all this and it was the team you didnt see behind him that was installing these practices that every other team in Premier league now use as well.

What I have just mentioned is a very small part of what they started doing to put United in front of everyone else. I imagine in years to come everything will eventually come out about that small team of people in which Ferguson was one actually done at that time.

It certainly changed the whole way of how clubs operated both footballing and media wise. Even now everybody is getting wound up with whats in his book and you should be asking yourself why.

The answer is probably to do with well no ex Liverpool manager would do that and in that answer lies the reason to which United pulled so far ahead of us. They done/do things different to what we do and there run as a club with a view to the future and not of one run as a club from decades past.

Agree with that, particularly with the bold part. I don't remember who posted on a similar note before on this forum in relation to this (it might've been you, ST), but it was a comment from somebody who'd seen this first hand by having numerous interactions with their accountants team (or somebody of that ilk) and commented that they were running like clockwork, particularly during the yearly PL years. Given what happened at that time, I am inclined to believe it.

[SCOUSE TAPAS]

Agree with that, particularly with the bold part. I don't remember who posted on a similar note before on this forum in relation to this (it might've been you, ST), but it was a comment from somebody who'd seen this first hand by having numerous interactions with their accountants team (or somebody of that ilk) and commented that they were running like clockwork, particularly during the yearly PL years. Given what happened at that time, I am inclined to believe it.

Good memory there mate I remember the above from a few years ago. It wasnt me but I have a feeling it was somebody like Tom R or DT who had dealings with the club.

[xerxes]

Brendan Rodgers has dealt with this very classily. He isn't cosy with the media in the Harry Redknapp sense, but from articles I've been reading, even in the Mail, he seems to carry a lot of respect in those circles.

Rodgers has worked harder than any Liverpool manager to cultivate the media, and it is paying off. Famously he attended every FA media course there was.

 

Shanks was a master of media manipulation, Paisley unobtrusively so.

 

Rodgers problem was credibility, not presence, and as he starts to plough his own furrow it is becoming easier and easier for him.

[Gnasher]

That's a very good point. Many journalists seem to hold him in pretty high esteem, which can only be good for us.

Whilst i agree with you about Rodgers i think a lot of the press seemingly taking our side is the fact that fergursons gone and with a World Cup in brazil coming up they get on well with Stevie and realise as he is England captain the big stories next year will revolve around him. A word with Stevie next summer will be gold dust to the unscrupulous bastards.

[Innova]

In a few years, I can see Brendan having the air of authority that ferguson once had. They both know how to handle the press and slag off anyone who makes negative comments about their team. And he does it classily by sharing his views which can't really be argued once you think it through.

 

 

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[Vincent Vega]

This is a decent article from Matt Lawton in The Mail regarding the spitefulness of Bacon Face:

 

 

 

His legacy has been damaged: Classy riposte from Rodgers over Fergie's spiteful jibes over Gerrard and Henderson

By Matt Lawton

PUBLISHED: 22:38, 24 October 2013 | UPDATED: 09:17, 25 October 2013

As a bright young manager endeavouring to establish  himself at one of the world’s biggest football clubs, Brendan Rodgers would not have taken on Sir Alex Ferguson with any great relish on Thursday.

He did so out of a sense of duty and a need to defend two Liverpool players Ferguson chose to attack, quite gratuitously, in his explosive new autobiography.

While Ferguson’s criticism of Steven Gerrard is utterly bizarre — a  midfielder he once described as the most influential in the English game is now ‘not a top, top player’ — his assessment of Jordan Henderson amounts to the most morally reprehensible couple of sentences on any of the 402 pages.

 

Booked: Sir Alex Ferguson's Autobiography has caused plenty of controversy ahead of it's release

 

 

He declared an issue with Henderson’s ‘gait’, claiming that because ‘he runs from his knees with a straight back’, rather than his ‘hips’, he will have ‘problems later in his career’.

Ferguson wrote this with the sole intention of taking one last swipe at an old adversary in Kenny Dalglish, the former Manchester United manager’s argument being that Dalglish made a number of expensive mistakes in the players he signed  during his second term in charge at Anfield.

 

 

 

 

SIR ALEX FERGUSON'S KOP ATTACK

 

• He implies Brendan Rodgers is too young for the job
• Attacks Kenny Dalglish for supporting Luis Suarez
• Taunts Rafa Benitez as a ‘silly man’
• Claims Gerrard is not a ‘top, top player’

• Says Jordan Henderson’s running style is a problem
• Hits out at the Anfield club’s transfer strategy
• Insists Liverpool  are eight players short of
  title bid

 

Fair point, Ferguson might claim. But he did so with no regard whatsoever for the players, and in particular Henderson.

As Rodgers countered, it was a disgusting thing to say about an honest, hard- working 23-year-old footballer with the best years of his career ahead of him.

Stick together: Henderson has been backed by his manager Rodgers (below) over Ferguson's claims

 

 

 

 

Unfair: Rodgers said some of the comments were not right

 

 

Ferguson thought nothing of the impact it might have on the young man, either now or later in his life if the day does arrive when he needs to find employment at another football club. ‘Damaging,’ was how Rodgers put it, and rightly so  given the considerable weight  Ferguson’s words carry.

Rodgers had clearly spent time digesting Ferguson’s words because yesterday at Melwood came an articulate, well-reasoned response. Brutal in some respects, yes. But classy and courageous too, never once surrendering the moral high ground to a man who, in this instance, has succeeded only in coming across as a dreadful bully.

The first question from a television journalist actually concerned  Ferguson’s dismissal of Gerrard, but Rodgers came back with an answer that very quickly shifted the focus on to Henderson and an issue he  clearly considered more serious

 

 

Skipper: Steven Gerrard has also been criticised by Fergie for not being a 'top, top player'

 

 

Shockwaves: The revelations of Fergie's book have caused some disappointed with many of those mentioned

 

 

Gerrard, he no doubt felt, can take care of himself.

‘I’m not here to give more coverage to his book, but the one thing I was bitterly disappointed about was his comment about Jordan Henderson,’ Rodgers said before describing it as ‘inappropriate’.

Imagine how Ferguson might have responded had someone given such a damning, amateurish, medical assessment of a United player.

 

 

 

Attacked: Kenny Dalglish is criticised by Ferguson in his book

 

By Ferguson’s hairdryer standards Rodgers was extremely measured, explaining  simply that all players have medical tests that then allow the appropriate specialists at a football club to iron out any weaknesses.

He used Gerrard, a player who had his own physical problems to overcome as a youngster, as an example. But then described Henderson as  ‘a machine’; a ‘wonderful athlete’ physically capable of playing ‘two or three games on the spin’.

Henderson might have to wait an awfully long time, but Rodgers was also right to suggest that  Ferguson owes the England midfielder an apology.

Tough tackler: Daniel Agger dives in on Luis Suarez as Liverpool prepare for the visit of West Brom

 

 

‘As someone who has worked with young players and understands the impact words can have on them, it surprises me he has said these things,’ Rodgers added. ‘Jordan is a great kid, a young lad making his way in the game and someone who will work and fight to be the best that he can be.’

As Rodgers says, Ferguson has probably damaged his own legacy to some degree; the greatest manager of a generation who signed off by dumping on some of those who played such an important role in his own success.

It is not an entirely fair reflection of the book. There are many generous words for players such as David Beckham and Wayne Rooney, too. But the shift in attitude towards Roy Keane is as staggering as that towards Gerrard. In his 1999 book Ferguson said he felt ‘privileged’ to have worked with Keane. That, however, is not how he remembers him now. Perhaps he has forgotten that performance in Turin, among many others.

Sitting pretty: Liverpool currently sit third in the table on 17 points

Out of sight: Philippe Coutinho of Liverpool goes past Steven Gerrard during training

Rodgers expressed ‘sadness’ at the damage Ferguson might have done to himself, as well as a fair amount of incredulity regarding his supposedly expert appraisal of Gerrard. ‘He is one of the very few, maybe even the only one who doesn’t think Steven is a top player,’ said Liverpool’s manager.

Ferguson took a swipe at Rodgers as well for being too young, at 39, to  manage a club of Liverpool’s stature; forgetting he was only 44 when he took the reins at Old Trafford.

Not that Rodgers seemed too  bothered. ‘Kenny Dalglish had won a number of titles by 39 when he was here,’ he said with a wry smile.

For Rodgers the main concern was the need to ‘protect the club’, and more importantly protect a young footballer who must be wondering how on earth he became a victim of Ferguson’s vindictiveness.

‘We’ll tell him to run on his hands and knees from now on,’ joked Rodgers, before making one  mischievous dig in retaliation.

So, Rodgers was asked, is he eight players short of having a title  winning team here on Merseyside?

‘That’s probably two short of what they need,’ he replied, and given that United approved the book before publication they probably deserved it.

[Gym Beglin]

I think Henderson's biggest deficiency is that he's fucking shit. Surprising that Ferguson missed that.

[VERBAL DIARRHEA]

Henderson's new nickname should be Gaitor

[magicrat]

In a few years, I can see Brendan having the air of authority that ferguson once had. They both know how to handle the press and slag off anyone who makes negative comments about their team. And he does it classily by sharing his views which can't really be argued once you think it through.

 

 

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I have no issue with Rodgers handling the press. He is the best we have had  for ages at interaction with the hacks. His problem is weird team selections , the 4 centre backs against Southampton being this seasons biggest fuck up to date, and the clubs ability to attract proven top players.. I hope youre right but it will be on the field he makes his reputation not in press conferences

[Innova]

I will still stand by my point that some absurd tactical decisions made by him are due to occurrences in training, which we have almost no info about except for the occasional pictures showing them train together.

 

 

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[Gnasher]

Stevie will have the journalists licking his arse untill after the World Cup. They know fergursons book will be worth chip paper very soon, the World Cup jaunt to Rio with England is the only ticket in town.