Violence Against Burglars

[AngryOfTuebrook]

A licence to shoot burglars: It's the chance you take, judge tells two raiders who were fired on by homeowners at isolated cottage | Mail Online

 

Burglars who break into country homes can expect to be shot at by their victims, a judge warned yesterday.

Judge Michael Pert QC spoke out after a lawyer demanded leniency for a career criminal who he claimed had been blasted with a shotgun in ‘a form of summary justice’.

The judge replied: ‘If you burgle a house in the country where the householder owns a legally held shotgun, that is the chance you take. You cannot come to court and ask for a lighter sentence because of it.’

 

Needless to say, this has been wildly applauded by the usual reactionary gobshites, who claim that it is some sort of "common sense" victory over political correctness, etc. Here's a typical article from the Echo's resident prick Joe Riley

Joe Riley: There is no such thing as a proportional response to burlgars - Joe Riley - Columnists - Views & Blogs - Liverpool Echo

 

A BIRKENHEAD man who chased and then attacked a street-drinking would-be burglar at his home has been jailed for two years.

 

A ridiculous state of affairs when many of the culprits still get away with little more than a finger-wagging.

 

The reprisal was judged to be sustained and ferocious, requiring immediate medical treatment.

 

Yes. And? Few will be shedding a single tear at such natural justice.

 

Little wonder that 27% of home-owners keep a weapon handy.

 

Baseball bats, golf clubs, heavy duty torches and walking sticks are among the most common items in the domestic armoury, as one in 10 no longer feel safe in their homes.

 

In my case, it's my late father's truncheon from his time with the B-specials that awaits any stranger who attempts to cross the thresh-hold uninvited.

 

There is no such thing as a ‘proportional’ response to intruders.

 

No good being told to phone the police, who are usually miles away.

 

And as for setting security alarms, few bother to take notice when the merest nudge, or the radio signals of a passing taxi, can set the neighbourhood ringing to no purpose.

(Incidentally, as Joe is just a fat old man who has no experience of fighting for anything, any burglar would have that truncheon off him and beat him to a pulp with it in seconds. And I, for one, would laugh my cock off.)

 

I'm waiting to see the reactionary nobheads' response to this.

 

BBC News - Man shoots own son in 'burglary'

 

A US man mistakenly shot dead his 15-year-old son while investigating what appeared to be an attempted burglary next door, police say.

 

Jeffrey Giuliano, from New Fairfield in Connecticut, opened fire on a masked teenager outside his sister's house.

 

Police later told him he had killed his adopted son Tyler. No charges have yet been filed in the case.

 

"All in all it's a tragedy," said state police spokesman Lt J Paul Vance, quoted by the AP news agency.

 

According to police, the father was called by his sister, who lives next door, at around 01:00 on Friday (05:00 GMT) when she heard someone outside the house and believed they were attempting to break in.

 

Mr Giuliano confronted a person wearing a black balaclava and black clothing, and fired his gun when the person lunged at him with "a shiny weapon".

 

He did not know it was his son until they removed the head covering.

 

The teenager was discovered by police lying in the driveway with gunshot injuries, his father sitting nearby. Tyler was pronounced dead at the scene.

 

No charges have been filed, and an autopsy is planned.

 

Mr Giuliano is a science teacher in the town's school district.

 

In a statement to parents, schools superintendent Alicia Roy said: "Our district has experienced a tragedy that has affected us deeply".

 

"Everybody is just shaking their heads over it," New Fairfield First Selectman John Hodge told the Danbury News-Times on Thursday. "We're hoping the police can get to the bottom of it."

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I think there's something primal about the violence meted out when someone invades your home. You're programmed to protect the space where your family are and I thoroughly understand people going to extreme lengths to do so, I don't think it's something you think about, I think your heart pumps and you grab a weapon, and I personally think the people invading your space should know that they do so at their own risk.

[lifetime fan]

Surely it comes down to common sense, you use whatever is to hand to protect yourself and your family or to scare a burgler off.

 

If you then chase them down the road and give them a good shoeing you are no longer protecting your property or others are you.

[King Emlyn]

Don't burgle a house and you should be fine.

[Sugar Ape]

Don't burgle a house and you should be fine.

 

Agreed. It's a fucking vile crime.

[Baltar]

Don't burgle a house and you should be fine.

Yep. Don't understand why homeowners are arrested when they assault burglars. If the burglars weren't breaking into homes with intent to steal they wouldn't get hurt.

[John McClane]

I have a weapon which I would use if confronted in my own home.

Would I chase them down the street? most probably not, depends on how angry you'd be.

 

How a burglar can claim assault is beyond me.

[Phoenix]

Yep. Don't understand why homeowners are arrested when they assault burglars. If the burglars weren't breaking into homes with intent to steal they wouldn't get hurt.

 

Not many make get to being prosecuted.

[Lee909]

My issue with this is the double standards.

So if you burgle a country home you run the risk of getting shot and the farmer,rich country dweller gets off.You try to burgle my council house and i stab you,ill get nicked for assault.

[Guest davelfc]

My issue with this is the double standards.

So if you burgle a country home you run the risk of getting shot and the farmer,rich country dweller gets off.You try to burgle my council house and i stab you,ill get nicked for assault.

 

It depends, reasonable force and self defence should come into play, (and often does) the words 'feared for my life' should be the main comment you make.

[Kevin D]

I have a weapon which I would use if confronted in my own home.

Would I chase them down the street? most probably not, depends on how angry you'd be.

 

How a burglar can claim assault is beyond me.

 

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[AngryOfTuebrook]

I have a weapon which I would use if confronted in my own home.

Would I chase them down the street? most probably not, depends on how angry you'd be.

 

How a burglar can claim assault is beyond me.

If you assault someone with a weapon, you can't see how that person would claim they've been assaulted?

 

Incidentally - you'd better be handy with this weapon of yours, because if an otherwise unarmed burglar takes it off you, he will be the one lashing out (at you and anyone else in the house) "because he feared for his life".

[cloggypop]

A burglar got killed in The Netherlands last week and a minister has said that it is a career risk .

 

DutchNews.nl - Minister criticised for saying death is a risk burglars run

[Pidge]

I think, in the interest of self-defence (extending the definition of self to include property and family) force to incapacitate a burglar inside your property is excusable. They literally have no defence for being there in the first place and it's a deeply frightening experience to wake up to hear someone breaking into your home (I have experienced that once - investigated wielding my guitar).

 

I don't understand your point AoT, how can you defend them? Do you believe letting them do what they want and then filing an insurance claim is just?

 

People should just let them take what they haven't earned and also give them the insurance policy of crying "assault" if they actually get caught in the act of ruining people's lives?

[Tyler Durden]

If you assault someone with a weapon, you can't see how that person would claim they've been assaulted?

 

Incidentally - you'd better be handy with this weapon of yours, because if an otherwise unarmed burglar takes it off you, he will be the one lashing out (at you and anyone else in the house) "because he feared for his life".

 

What's your option then?

[J-V]

What's your option then?

 

Bend over a take it up the arse. It's pricks like him that's made this country a joke.

[lifetime fan]

Bend over a take it up the arse. It's pricks like him that's made this country a joke.

 

 

No need for that.

[Redder Lurtz]

Fuck them.

 

I was burgled years ago while I was asleep upstairs and it was fucking horrendous to come downstairs to discover it the next morning. If I legally owned a gun and a burglar disturbed me I'd shoot the cunt. Lowlifes.

[Unrighteous]

I think there's something primal about the violence meted out when someone invades your home. You're programmed to protect the space where your family are and I thoroughly understand people going to extreme lengths to do so, I don't think it's something you think about, I think your heart pumps and you grab a weapon, and I personally think the people invading your space should know that they do so at their own risk.

 

Exactly. If you break into someones home, then you should expect a violent response.

[zigackly]

Not only is it a deterrent, but it could also save the taxpayer some money on prison costs. They should be handing out free shotguns to anyone in a high risk area.

[J-V]

No need for that.

Every need especially when the OPs happy to call people "reactionary gobshites" if they agree with a judge.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

What's your option then?

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Edit - I've used pictures, rather than words, so that even j-v might be able to understand.]

[AngryOfTuebrook]

Exactly. If you break into someones home, then you should expect a violent response.

So, next time I go out on the rob, I'll go equipped and make sure I get my retaliation in first.

[Tyler Durden]

Lets imagine that the police don't turn up the second you phone them ( I know hard to imagine) and they come upstairs where your kids/wife/mother/father are, what then?

 

Lets imagine they just boot through your front door while your downstairs and they are armed, what happens then?

[Tyler Durden]

So, next time I go out on the rob, I'll go equipped and make sure I get my retaliation in first.

 

Ahh the chicken or the egg argument, sound.