Anfield or New Anfield

[redasever]

Let's say best case scenario. We're boss again, winning trophies and we redeveloped Anfield to around 60k. But there is still more demand for tickets.

 

Then what?

 

 

Build more.

 

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[Durango]

Everton

 

United

 

Arsenal

 

Chelsea

 

Later Stages of the Champions League

 

FA Cup Ties

 

Tottentham

 

City

 

Fuck yeah it's going to be hard we WON'T sell out the stadium charging stupid prices. But as long as there is a structures, fair ticketing policy we'll be sound.

 

Yer mad head

 

The only way we'd sell out against Chelsea,Arsenal,Spurs or City would be if we had a chance of winning the premiership late in the season,

 

You stupid boy

[RJ Fan club]

 

Try this: http://www.communities.gov.uk/documents/localgovernment/pdf/1818597.pdf

 

or in summary this:

 

The planning and regeneration provisions will

 

 

[*]abolish Regional Spatial Strategies

[*]abolish the Infrastructure Planning Commission and return to a position where the Secretary of State takes the final decision on major infrastructure proposals of national importance

[*]amend the Community Infrastructure Levy, which allows councils to charge developers to pay for infrastructure. Some of the revenue will be available for the local community

[*]provide for neighbourhood plans, which would be approved if they received 50% of the votes cast in a referendum

[*]provide for neighbourhood development orders to allow communities to approve development without requiring normal planning consent

[*]give new housing and regeneration powers to the Greater London Authority, while abolishing the London Development Agency.

 

 

Not a lot of scope for screwing more money from developers there and the bill isn't law yet. It's on its second reading in the House of Lords.

 

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Yeah, sorry I do know in great detail. I was really say professional to professional (I'm a Town Planner, Karl is an Architect) that the government has got its head up its arse trying to pass loads of shit off as Localism. When it really means, we've not fully decided but it sounds good for most of its flip flopping and general whims designed to look like its gives a shit about the little man when in fact its ready to fuck him over.

 

Sorry about that.

[RJ Fan club]

Btw, I wasn't trying to be a smartarse with that last post. I'm just half pissed. Sorry if it comes across that way.

[redasever]

Btw, I wasn't trying to be a smartarse with that last post. I'm just half pissed. Sorry if it comes across that way.

 

It's really pretty clear to anyone what the Localism Bill is up to.

 

Half-pissed at noon in Hove??? or have you just got up?

 

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[RJ Fan club]

It's really pretty clear to anyone what the Localism Bill is up to.

 

Half-pissed at noon in Hove??? or have you just got up?

 

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Nah that was midnight mate.

[redasever]

If you have a fair ticket policy the club will sell out at 70k seater stadium, week in week out.

 

If we have a 'fair' ticket policy of the likes I think you're talking about (ie., a cheap ticket policy), we might just manage only to pay for the stadium and nothing for the team.

 

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[Antynwa]

If we have a 'fair' ticket policy of the likes I think you're talking about (ie., a cheap ticket policy), we might just manage only to pay for the stadium and nothing for the team.

 

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You won't sell out a 70k seater stadium at £50-60 a ticket.

 

You will with large amount of concessions.

[coop]

You won't sell out a 70k seater stadium at £50-60 a ticket.

 

You will with large amount of concessions.

 

If only it was that simple Ant - offer cheap seats and fill it every second week.

 

The fact is we will want to make money on the stadium but we would also have large interest payments to make back due to a loan to build the stadium in the first place.

[lifetime fan]

How much do you reckon we could get from sponsoring new stands Coop?

 

Apparently Arsenal only get £3m a season for the entire stadium, and they are in London.

 

I can't see us bringing in much money at all for the stands, obviously the Kop would get a few quid but the others?

[coop]

Going purely on media reports but we could be looking at a redevelopment of £200m or a complete rebuild of upto £400m.

 

We would i think find it easier to sponsor on a per stand basis then we would for a complete stadium.

 

When you consider the sponsorship for the whole stadium would have to smash all records for it to be brought inline with a redevelopment then you can understand why we may well be staying at Anfield.

 

Sponsoring per stand is just an option but obviously any redevelopment will need to have corporate seating which is where we need to seriously improve on.

 

The advantage of redevelopment for me is we can do 1 stand at a time therefore minimum disruption and would allow us to still have match revenue from the other 3 available parts of the ground.

 

We also can do it within our means and not need to have a large debt around our neck if we went for the 'new' stadium.

[Guest ShoePiss]

There's no reason why a new stadium can't have a main sponsor and stand or section sponsors too. I'm certain they'll be looking at this. Overall stadium name and crap like the Ford club seats etc. Tiered pricing will split up sections nicely for this. They should also do this if they decide to stay.

 

I have visions of a expanded Anfield or a new stadium reminding me of a Mexican primera division shirt. Not a nice image.

[Durango]

To hit the equilibrium, of supply=demand

 

a 64k capacity would be ample

[Antynwa]

Online Standard Results

 

PP Has been granted to renovate some houses on Lothair Road

[lifetime fan]

Online Standard Results

 

PP Has been granted to renovate some houses on Lothair Road

 

Renovate as in flaten?

[Durango]

Renovate as in flaten?

 

Housing Market Renewal as been scrapped by the Govt in the cuts,

 

Lothair Road along with several other streets in that area was due to be demolished to be replaced by new affordable housing.

 

Council leader Joe Anderson as asked housing associations to review their plans and instead of knocking down these houses they are now looking to refurb these properties.

 

The current Council CANNOT, in any way be held to blame for the mess that the Anfield area is now in

[lifetime fan]

Going purely on media reports but we could be looking at a redevelopment of £200m or a complete rebuild of upto £400m.

 

We would i think find it easier to sponsor on a per stand basis then we would for a complete stadium.

 

When you consider the sponsorship for the whole stadium would have to smash all records for it to be brought inline with a redevelopment then you can understand why we may well be staying at Anfield.

 

Sponsoring per stand is just an option but obviously any redevelopment will need to have corporate seating which is where we need to seriously improve on.

 

The advantage of redevelopment for me is we can do 1 stand at a time therefore minimum disruption and would allow us to still have match revenue from the other 3 available parts of the ground.

 

We also can do it within our means and not need to have a large debt around our neck if we went for the 'new' stadium.

 

 

But what would be the difference in revenue between the two?

 

If Aresenal get £3m a season for the naming rights to the stadium what are we going to get for 3 stands that will get no exposure outside of those attending a game?

[Beantown Red]

Does the team own any of the hotels in the area?

[redasever]

But what would be the difference in revenue between the two?

 

If Aresenal get £3m a season for the naming rights to the stadium what are we going to get for 3 stands that will get no exposure outside of those attending a game?

 

The revenue from tickets and hospitality would be the same in both cases. The difference would be the naming rights. You could assume the stand naming rights would be about nil - particularly since the club isn't even bothering to find out.

 

So the revenue including naming rights is higher with a new stadium but the cost is about twice as much.

 

They both have the same 'profit' if the naming rights are about £25m a year. The current world record is £15m a year.

 

 

Does the team own any of the hotels in the area?

 

 

no.

 

 

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[redasever]

The revenue from tickets and hospitality would be the same in both cases. The difference would be the naming rights. You could assume the stand naming rights would be about nil - particularly since the club isn't even bothering to find out.

 

So the revenue including naming rights is higher with a new stadium but the cost is about twice as much.

 

They both have the same 'profit' if the naming rights are about £25m a year. The current world record is £15m a year.

 

 

Sorry, that's not strictly correct, the difference is about £20m a year (it depends on the interest rate).

 

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[lifetime fan]

You are assuming we'd be able to incorporate as many corporate boxes and facilities at Anfield as we would at a new purpose built stadium as well mate.

[Captain]

The revenue from tickets and hospitality would be the same in both cases..

 

Says who?

[drewy]

I think the decision to expand Anfield has already been made, I also don't believe for one second they won't sell the name.

[Antynwa]

I think the decision to expand Anfield has already been made, I also don't believe for one second they won't sell the name.

 

I don't think it has, by any stretch. It maybe the preferable option but wether it's achievable or not

[Code]

Liverpool would easily sell out 70,000 almost every game if they built a stadium with such a capacity.