Cameron: "Cuts will change our way of life"

[Gnasher]

http://m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/7490950

 

always had a bit of a soft spot for Charlie, as for the rest of the Liberal Democrat snakes..

[Strontium]

A link, Stronts. A link to the YouGov poll of Labour Members on Syria. Please.

 

I fail to see what difference a link will make, nor do I understand why you couldn't just Google it like I did. Maybe you can explain that after you've confirmed that I am right.

 

http://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/a1wkjcv1jz/TimesResults_151123_LabourMembers.pdf

 

Page 23 is what you want.

[Strontium]

always had a bit of a soft spot for Charlie

 

That much is obvious...

[Jairzinho]

I fail to see what difference a link will make, nor do I understand why you couldn't just Google it like I did. Maybe you can explain that after you've confirmed that I am right.

 

http://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/a1wkjcv1jz/TimesResults_151123_LabourMembers.pdf

 

Page 23 is what you want.

 

Because I couldn't find it googling. Sorry.

 

What are you right about? You simply prefer the results of the YouGov poll because it suits your argument. You prefer this one other source, therefore the source that directly emailed Labour members must be incorrect. Your preferred source being the one that told us Labour and Conservative were neck and neck at the last election.

[Strontium]

Because I couldn't find it googling. Sorry.

 

What are you right about? You simply prefer the results of the YouGov poll because it suits your argument. You prefer this one other source, therefore the source that directly emailed Labour members must be incorrect. Your preferred source being the one that told us Labour and Conservative were neck and neck at the last election.

 

I don't "prefer" the results of anything, and I have no argument to be suited. But the methodology for this poll is sound; the other one isn't even a poll.

 

As you may have guessed, I really don't care either way what Labour members think about Syria. It doesn't affect my life in any way whatsoever.

[Bobby Hundreds]

Cameron has called Corbyn a terrorist sympathizer. What a fucking disgrace of a man Cameron is.

[Mook]

The treatment Corbyn is getting from every angle at the moment is mental, to me he sounds like the voice of reason drowning in a tidal wave of shit.

[Jairzinho]

Finding the lack of subtlety from the media extraordinary. 

[Stu Monty]

Cameron has called Corbyn a terrorist sympathizer. What a fucking disgrace of a man Cameron is.

Sure he'll have a good laugh with Turkey and Saudi Arabia about it when they next break bread.

[Sugar Ape]

Latest BBC number crunching suggests 362 MPs in favour, 175 against, 80 undecided

[Jairzinho]

That seems slightly more than expected for those in favour.

 

I'm assuming all SNP MPs will be against? 

 

edit - Just checked, and Sturgeon has confirmed they'll all vote against.

 

Also noticed that the Lib Dems will be voting for bombing. 

[Red Phoenix]

I don't "prefer" the results of anything, and I have no argument to be suited. But the methodology for this poll is sound; the other one isn't even a poll.

 

 

YouGov are now saying that less than half of the country support air strikes. I'm going to guess this one is a weighted poll : https://yougov.co.uk/news/2015/12/01/support-air-strikes-dips-below-majority/

[Baltar]

The media is a fucking disgrace for supporting Cameron and demonizing Corbyn over the airstrikes issue. The sane thing to do is to stay out of Syria. Let Russia, France, and the Arabs deal with ISIS. Cameron is taking the fucking piss by declaring we'd be safer by attacking ISIS. How could that ever be the case when ISIS have hundreds of sympathisers in the UK ready to avenge their Caliphate should we attack? Not to mention all the civilian casualties in Syria as a result of launching airstrikes. these strikes have proven to being pointless and ineffective, resulting in dead civilians while the terrorists hide in caves or underground, and the creation of more terrorists. Has decades of bombing Iraq not taught us anything? It's just so stupid and irrational. 

[KMD7]

[Stu Monty]

I don't think the media is a disgrace for supporting airstrikes.

 

It's just a disgrace for the fact that if the two leaders held entirely opposite positions they would still be supporting Cameron and attacking Corbyn.

[Jairzinho]

I don't think the media is a disgrace for supporting airstrikes.

 

It's just a disgrace for the fact that if the two leaders held entirely opposite positions they would still be supporting Cameron and attacking Corbyn.

 

From Murdoch's rag to the Guardian.

[torahboy]

I don't see how air strikes against Syria, and they are against Syria not ISIS/ISIL/DAESH/BOYFUCKERS, relieves any threat against the British public as their potential attackers are already here. And the chances of them actually being effective is almost non-existent.............if our intelligence services are as on the ball here as Cameron would have us believe they are in Syria.

 

Shit! I forgot, Cameron is a fucking liar.

[redinblack62]

The Guardian allowed comments against Corbyn and his "backtracking " but not against Cameron and his Alf Garnettisms. The bunch of cunts.

[Red Phoenix]

This whole thing is almost definitely a complete waste of time as far as solving this is concerned, because ISIS for probably around 99% certainty, aren't going to be defeated here. They're almost definitely going to pop up in some other country when it's convenient (Libya for example, could be a future place where this happens all over again) for several types of lobbyists in the near future.

[redinblack62]

Its fucking pathetic, Cameron wanting to do some dick waving, "well all these big countries are bombing the shit out of Syria, we're a big country too, so we will as well" I wish I could come up with a well reasoned critique on his foreign policy and his complete lack of awareness of the fact that GB slipped out of the worlds Champions League some time ago, but all I can say is that he is a massive cunt,as is anyone who voted for him, and you now you have definitive proof of that, and so is anyone who wants to join in the collective goat fuck that is Smashing Syria to bits.

[Gnasher]

How much is all this going to cost in monetary terms.This war could go on for years.The media's always banging on about the price of everything, long term economic plan, the deficit etc.

 

Wy haven't the BBC realed out Robert Preston to tell us?

[Guest Pistonbroke]

How much is all this going to cost in monetary terms.This war could go on for years.The media's always banging on about the price of everything, long term economic plan, the deficit etc.

 

Wy haven't the BBC realed out Robert Preston to tell us?

 

Shit loads more than the UK have, but hey, those selling the arms (Dave's mates)  will be rubbing their hands together. After the dust has settled (pardon the pun) the tax payer and public amenities will be screwed to fuck. 

[Gnasher]

where the fucking hell is William Hague?

 

He did a fantastic job in Libya. The country was full of Jihad's till he got involved and sorted it all out. Now after he got his mates to give em a dose of democracy and freedom they spend their days drinking tea, listening to the Archers and playing cricket. Lovely bunch of lads.

[Jairzinho]

MPs crying about members of the public trying to convince them not to go to war. 

 

Oh, and Laura Kuenssberg is a fucking cunt.

[RedKnight]

Baffles me how Labour MPs can continue to ignore the huge mandate their own party members gave Corbyn. They're just wilfully ignoring it as if it doesn't matter - it's the people who put them there!