Why Steven Gerrard struggles to have the complete love of the Kop

[jsjazz]

Crap article, even if he is a Liverpool supporter.

Like many, I was pretty disappointed with the Chelsea shennanigans, but I think he has done more than enough to redeem himself. He has carried the team at times - yes, I know others play their part, but when you're looking for someone to rescue us from the deep doodoo we frequently find ourselves in, who do you look to? And I think him being a local lad playing for his hometown team does mean a lot to him. I wouldn't swap him for any other player in the world, even Messi. If as looks likely he finishes his career at LFC for me he will be top of the tree, even above the King.

[WaltonRed]

If as looks likely he finishes his career at LFC for me he will be top of the tree, even above the King.

 

Not a chance.

[zigackly]

To be above Dalglish he would have to win a lot more trophies and go on to be a successful manager for us. He is probably the most complete player to ever play for Liverpool though, and certainly one of the most complete players I have seen. They used to say of Pele that he could play any position in the Brazil team better than any of the other players, and whilst that isn't quite true of Gerrard and Liverpool he would certainly give them all a fight for their places.

[Kevin D]

You were sitting? In the Ataturk?

 

Thought it read better than crying into my arm while shouting at Kewell to fuck off.

[zigackly]

Thought it read better than crying into my arm while shouting at Kewell to fuck off.

 

Fair enough. I think I did sit down actually at one point. I needed to roll a ciggie at half time.

[Hooch]

I love him to bits and all that Chelsea stuff had far more to it than most people know. The lad was a complete mess during the whole episode. He had he Doctor at his house twice due to severe panic attacks he was suffering whilst it was going on.

 

I think it become fashionable to not really like our captain somewhere along the line.

 

Is right Fugitive. There was all sorts going on, juiced up gangsters chasing him home and terrorising him to the extent he needed a "fixer" to stop it, the divorce of his parents, the fact that we did look pretty shit at times. The lad aint a saint, but who is perfect? He's the greatest player to pull on a red shirt and he busts his fucking gut out there on that pitch. He's the most professional footballer I've ever seen actually. Even above our Lord Jesus Carragher.

 

And lets not forget the small matter that HE DIDN'T GO.

 

I'm fed up of having this argument because it just sickens me to my stomach.

[Spy Bee]

Is right Fugitive. There was all sorts going on, juiced up gangsters chasing him home and terrorising him to the extent he needed a "fixer" to stop it, the divorce of his parents, the fact that we did look pretty shit at times. The lad aint a saint, but who is perfect? He's the greatest player to pull on a red shirt and he busts his fucking gut out there on that pitch. He's the most professional footballer I've ever seen actually. Even above our Lord Jesus Carragher.

 

And lets not forget the small matter that HE DIDN'T GO.

 

I'm fed up of having this argument because it just sickens me to my stomach.

 

I owe you much rep... or did you neg me the other night?

 

Either way - good post.

[zigackly]

He's the greatest player to pull on a red shirt

 

Third greatest for me, behind Dalglish and Liddell.

[Randy Marsh]

Is right Fugitive. There was all sorts going on, juiced up gangsters chasing him home and terrorising him to the extent he needed a "fixer" to stop it, the divorce of his parents, the fact that we did look pretty shit at times. The lad aint a saint, but who is perfect? He's the greatest player to pull on a red shirt and he busts his fucking gut out there on that pitch. He's the most professional footballer I've ever seen actually. Even above our Lord Jesus Carragher.

 

And lets not forget the small matter that HE DIDN'T GO.

 

I'm fed up of having this argument because it just sickens me to my stomach.

 

Is right Pete. I lost something for him after the Chelsea shite, but his performances and conduct since have won me back 5 times over. Pisses me off just how much people take him for granted. He's carried us on numerous occasions, and i mean literally dragged us kicking and screaming to cup wins and whatever else. Some people slag the lad off and consider him to have had a bad game, basically just because he hasn't score a last minute winner or a 30yard screamer. That says it all. He's irreplaceable.

[Hooch]

I owe you much rep... or did you neg me the other night?

 

Either way - good post.

 

Cheers mate, I think I may have but you did say "Becks". And you did promptly neg me back!

[Kevin D]

Is right Fugitive. There was all sorts going on, juiced up gangsters chasing him home and terrorising him to the extent he needed a "fixer" to stop it, the divorce of his parents, the fact that we did look pretty shit at times. The lad aint a saint, but who is perfect? He's the greatest player to pull on a red shirt and he busts his fucking gut out there on that pitch. He's the most professional footballer I've ever seen actually. Even above our Lord Jesus Carragher.

 

And lets not forget the small matter that HE DIDN'T GO.

 

I'm fed up of having this argument because it just sickens me to my stomach.

 

I'm a massive admirer of Gerrard; his ability , maturity and dedication cannot be understated. That said his behaviour in the 04/05 season and , in particular, the 06/07 season were most unbecoming of a a Liverpool captain. It's not surprising that people find it difficult to warm to him.

[James Dean]

He's a sulking tit. Fantastic player mind.

[Unrighteous]

They said that about numerous previous players as well, we'd of survived.

 

We've survived much worse have we not?

 

To be honest, no. I don't think so. Losing Gerrard would have been the beginning of the end of Liverpool as a football power.

 

I don't mean because he's a great player. We would have sold the bit of class in our side and we wouldn't have been able to lure anymore to join us.

 

Gone are the days when the shield on the front of the shirt means everything.

 

We would have had less chance than Tottenham of winning trophies and the top players like Torres would have not wanted to join us.

[ScottyT]

Is it possible to support Gerrard without the snide digs at Carra?

 

Pathetic the amount of people who resent the lad because he just happens to be popular.

[Guest Francie Brady]

Anyone reckon Gerrard will go into management when his career finishes ?

 

If so would he be succesful

[Antynwa]

Anyone reckon Gerrard will go into management when his career finishes ?

 

If so would he be succesful

 

Not so sure.

 

I think he'll go into the punditry side of football, go the way of Shearer and Co.

[Guest Francie Brady]

Not so sure.

 

I think he'll go into the punditry side of football, go the way of Shearer and Co.

 

would make sense if he did it easy money with less preasure

[Guest Ulysses Everett McGill]

To be honest, no. I don't think so. Losing Gerrard would have been the beginning of the end of Liverpool as a football power.

 

I don't mean because he's a great player. We would have sold the bit of class in our side and we wouldn't have been able to lure anymore to join us.

 

Gone are the days when the shield on the front of the shirt means everything.

 

We would have had less chance than Tottenham of winning trophies and the top players like Torres would have not wanted to join us.

 

Lance

 

With the greatest respect

 

That is fucking nonsense

[Unrighteous]

Lance

 

With the greatest respect

 

That is fucking nonsense

 

I totally disagree... Liverpool in quick succession selling Owen and Gerrard would have been the end.

 

edit: Top players want to play with Top Players and realise their ambitions.

[Antynwa]

I totally disagree... Liverpool in quick succession selling Owen and Gerrard would have been the end.

 

edit: Top players want to play with Top Players and realise their ambitions.

 

Considering we went on to win the European Cup without Owen, and many people say that Alonso was brought to replace Gerrard. I would say it's an over the top claim.

[Unrighteous]

Considering we went on to win the European Cup without Owen, and many people say that Alonso was brought to replace Gerrard. I would say it's an over the top claim.

 

Instanbul would never happen without Gerrard, despite Alonso, and Athens wouldn't have happened without Gerrard.

 

Alonso could never replace Gerrard.

[philyhamann]

See what I mean when I say all these nonsense rumours? There are so many different accounts. You'd think it was like that scene with Hitler from Downfall in some cases, and the end of Scarface in others.

[The Infamous_LF]

Growl

 

Haha what a cunt

 

A few parts of it is true

[WaltonRed]

To be honest, no. I don't think so. Losing Gerrard would have been the beginning of the end of Liverpool as a football power.

 

I don't mean because he's a great player. We would have sold the bit of class in our side and we wouldn't have been able to lure anymore to join us.

 

Gone are the days when the shield on the front of the shirt means everything.

 

We would have had less chance than Tottenham of winning trophies and the top players like Torres would have not wanted to join us.

 

Lance

 

With the greatest respect

 

That is fucking nonsense

 

I didnt even have to reply

[bossy]

I'm starting to think that as Liverpool fans we need some real humbling before we start supporting and appreciating our team/club unconditionally as once we did. We've never, in a football results sense, been truly down at the bottom. Many no longer believe they just sort of just expect.

Gerrard is a one off a brilliant brilliant footballer.