Xabi Alonso: Welcome back to Anfield.

[Bobby Hundreds]

Lothar Matthaeus saying Liverpool is not the right option for Alonso and he has better options, he would welcome him to Bayern. He says "why move to Liverpool" 

 

I cant stand Bayern and their shitty league. 

[VladimirIlyich]

46 minutes ago, Bobby Hundreds said:

Lothar Matthaeus saying Liverpool is not the right option for Alonso and he has better options, he would welcome him to Bayern. He says "why move to Liverpool" 

 

I cant stand Bayern and their shitty league. 

Another ex Bayern player saying what most ex Liverpool players will be saying. Nothing to see here.

[razor]

5 hours ago, Funkasy said:

Alonso fucked liverpool of for madrid, why would he come back when he gives fuck all about the club?

 

You honestly don't remember what happened?  Was it so long ago?

 

It was one of the most astonishing errors ever by a manager.  Granted, Alonso hadn't set the world on fire that season but EVERYONE could see the potential.  He then delivered a masterclass in midfield for the whole of the following season, and did what Rafa had wanted him to do a year earlier and went to Spain for big money.

 

And, dear reader, we never did get Gareth Barry...

[VladimirIlyich]

50 minutes ago, razor said:

 

You honestly don't remember what happened?  Was it so long ago?

 

It was one of the most astonishing errors ever by a manager.  Granted, Alonso hadn't set the world on fire that season but EVERYONE could see the potential.  He then delivered a masterclass in midfield for the whole of the following season, and did what Rafa had wanted him to do a year earlier and went to Spain for big money.

 

And, dear reader, we never did get Gareth Barry...

Yep,Barry went to Merseyside's Premier Club and was never heard of again.

[Bobby Hundreds]

2 hours ago, VladimirIlyich said:

Another ex Bayern player saying what most ex Liverpool players will be saying. Nothing to see here.

There's nothing to see anywhere but it's a football forum to chat shit.

[Jose Jones]

25 minutes ago, Bobby Hundreds said:

There's nothing to see anywhere but it's a football forum to chat shit.

Absolutely boss in the 1990 World Cup wasn’t he Matthaus? But extremely big head for his body.

[dave u]

8 hours ago, Bobby Hundreds said:

Lothar Matthaeus saying Liverpool is not the right option for Alonso and he has better options, he would welcome him to Bayern. He says "why move to Liverpool" 

 

I cant stand Bayern and their shitty league. 

 

Lothar Mattheus was always a proper arrogant, unlikeable turd. I see nothing has changed.

[Chris]

Bayern look at themselves the way we look at ourselves when we're batting away rumours a player/manager would want to go elsewhere.

[Pete]

38 minutes ago, dave u said:

 

Lothar Mattheus was always a proper arrogant,  unlikeable turd. I see nothing has changed.

So a sterotypical German male then? 

[sir roger]

I have always got on fine with German people on holidays etc. 

French and Russians however.

[JohnnyH]

16 minutes ago, Chris said:

Bayern look at themselves the way we look at ourselves when we're batting away rumours a player/manager would want to go elsewhere.

 

Exactly this.  I actually enjoy watching how unwittingly daft football fans can be at times.  If Gerrard said exactly word for word what Matthaeus had said we'd all (after getting over the initial shock that Gerrard spoke German) be saying he was spot on and we'd have no issue with it.

 

The way some fans seem to think it's a no-brainer for Alonso to ignore Madrid and Bayern and come to Liverpool is misguided at best and arrogant at worst.  It's also lining themselves up for possible extreme disappointment given their certainty. Alonso clearly enjoyed his time here, but I bet he really enjoyed it at Madrid and Munich to, and for challenging for the top honours those teams might seem better placed when you take everything into consideration.  Also, quality of life could easily see him in Madrid as his family will have a big say in this also.

 

And we can all discuss his reasons for leaving us, but there is no question money was a factor.  He's on record complaining about being taxed too much in England and then literally with his first contract with Madrid having left us he ended up in court being tried for tax fraud from 2010 to 2012.  It was a Jimmy Carr type thing that they couldn't prove he had knowledge of so it was dismissed, but he massively benefited, and now has another tax fraud trial pending, so money, and keeping as much as possible of it out of the states hands, is very important to him.  This is no socialist in the Klopp mould by any stretch, and I'd be willing to bet Madrid and Munich will offer higher wages than us, so that's a factor too.

 

We really were so lucky with Klopp.  He represented everything we wanted from a manager of this club with it's ethos.  He won't be repeated and it feels like we'll just be back with the other millionaires who really know nothing about us no matter who we get in.

[Chris]

4 minutes ago, JohnnyH said:

 

Exactly this.  I actually enjoy watching how unwittingly daft football fans can be at times.  If Gerrard said exactly word for word what Matthaeus had said we'd all (after getting over the initial shock that Gerrard spoke German) be saying he was spot on and we'd have no issue with it.

 

 

Carragher did say it – "where's bigger than Liverpool?" and it went on t-shirts. 

[Chris]

5 minutes ago, JohnnyH said:

 

Exactly this.  I actually enjoy watching how unwittingly daft football fans can be at times.  If Gerrard said exactly word for word what Matthaeus had said we'd all (after getting over the initial shock that Gerrard spoke German) be saying he was spot on and we'd have no issue with it.

 

The way some fans seem to think it's a no-brainer for Alonso to ignore Madrid and Bayern and come to Liverpool is misguided at best and arrogant at worst.  It's also lining themselves up for possible extreme disappointment given their certainty. Alonso clearly enjoyed his time here, but I bet he really enjoyed it at Madrid and Munich to, and for challenging for the top honours those teams might seem better placed when you take everything into consideration.  Also, quality of life could easily see him in Madrid as his family will have a big say in this also.

 

And we can all discuss his reasons for leaving us, but there is no question money was a factor.  He's on record complaining about being taxed too much in England and then literally with his first contract with Madrid having left us he ended up in court being tried for tax fraud from 2010 to 2012.  It was a Jimmy Carr type thing that they couldn't prove he had knowledge of so it was dismissed, but he massively benefited, and now has another tax fraud trial pending, so money, and keeping as much as possible of it out of the states hands, is very important to him.  This is no socialist in the Klopp mould by any stretch, and I'd be willing to bet Madrid and Munich will offer higher wages than us, so that's a factor too.

 

We really were so lucky with Klopp.  He represented everything we wanted from a manager of this club with it's ethos.  He won't be repeated and it feels like we'll just be back with the other millionaires who really know nothing about us no matter who we get in.

 

Stevie Mich.

[Babb'sBurstNad]

I hope our ex-players keep their mouths shut about Alonso coming here. 

[Antynwa]

Talk online that a decision will be made in a matter of weeks.

 

[Elite]

5 minutes ago, Antynwa said:

Talk online that a decision will be made in a matter of weeks.

 

Talk by who exactly?

[SasaS]

Online.

[Trojan1892]

Fabrizio

[3 Stacks]

On 26/03/2024 at 11:18, Razoray said:

You misunderstood me if you think I meant that the shoes are not that big. They are huge shoes to fill but if the new manager conducts himself well, shows that there is a plan and there is incremental progress, he will be given time. The (sane) supporters understand that we need to punch above our weight to win trophies, especially against the cheats.

 

My reference to Klopp was that he had some seasons where we were not competitive for the league at the start, but were in 3 finals in the first three years and qualified for the CL in year two and three while not spending very much and playing exciting football, while incrementally improving. 20/21 can be put solely down to the CB absentees. We were top after Christmas when Matip joined Gomez and Van Dijk in the treatment room, lost 6 games in a row at home (we have lost only one other league game at home since April 2017) and won 26 points in our final ten games when Klopp fixed the issue. The only "bad" season we had was last year but that is an anomaly given the consistency in all competitions in 21/22 and 23/24. 

 

My point was that the new manager does not need to be a Klopp personality, he does not need to immediately win trophies, but he needs to carry the weight of the position well, play good football, show that there is a plan and be competitive. If he does that, he will be given time, especially by the matchgoing fan. However, he will need a body of work to be safe from a bad season. Klopp's results since he got here could only have resulted in being sacked from 3/4 clubs on the planet and that's because they are supported by a load of entitled twats. 

 

I think it's just that people overrate the pressure aspect of the job at Liverpool. People talk about it but realistically, unless we're talking about a goon like Hodgson, there is almost no pressure here compared to some of the other big clubs. What is tough at Liverpool is winning trophies at a consistent level, because the league is very competitive and you're facing some clubs with more money. That's the part Klopp did that will be very difficult to replicate.

 

And that's where fans need to be careful, because under Klopp the expectations have probably changed for a lot of people. 

 

 

 

 

[Smell The Glove]

11 minutes ago, 3 Stacks said:

I think it's just that people overrate the pressure aspect of the job at Liverpool. People talk about it but realistically, unless we're talking about a goon like Hodgson, there is almost no pressure here compared to some of the other big clubs. What is tough at Liverpool is winning trophies at a consistent level, because the league is very competitive and you're facing some clubs with more money. That's the part Klopp did that will be very difficult to replicate.

 

And that's where fans need to be careful, because under Klopp the expectations have probably changed for a lot of people. 

 

 

 

 

The expectations of Liverpool are the always the same. We exist to win things. The fan base is a little more clever than the rest in my opinion but the pressure is the same. Win. 

 

This nonsense about Jurgen being given time. He would have felt the same pressure but he got to two finals in his first year. A champions league final in his 3rd. The football was dynamite early and every single knowledgeable fan knew that we'd struck gold.

[Trojan1892]

If they get the dynamic right again we could see another special group of players fighting on all fronts, the balance has so much potential imo.

 

A few welcome additions in the summer and we’ll be a big fucking problem, I’m really excited to see where this group of players takes us in the next couple of seasons.

[Scott_M]

Bayern admitting defeat?

 

[andrew78]

I'm swaying towards amerion

[VladimirIlyich]

3 minutes ago, andrew78 said:

I'm swaying towards amerion

Amerion Express?

[Bobby Hundreds]

Whatever happens you just have to hope that they know quickly who is possible and who isn't so if their first choice is unlikely we can quickly move for our next choice. Xabi doesn't come across as someone who will um and aah I think we will know fairly quickly if he wants it or not.