Alcolism

[Kloppite]

Random thread but as we all strangers anyone had any experience of this and who knows when to stop and how us the best way to Stop?

[cloggypop]

When you can't spell alcoholism.

[Lee909]

If its helping yourself no idea to be honest. If its someone else you cant help them. They have to want to stop.

 

Not much help i know but good luck

[Kloppite]

When you can't spell alcoholism.

Good point to start.

[Anubis]

No experience personally, but I'd suggest seeing your GP first as there are drugs available that will help with alcohol craving.

 

I don't know where you live, but if you're in Liverpool also contact Addaction, 4 Roscoe Street, Liverpool, L1 2SX. 0151 702 0655. They are a good service and get a lot of referrals from the police and court, but you don't need to be in trouble with the law, just have an addiction.

 

Also, Alcoholics Anonymous is a tried and traditional route. I hope this helps. Addiction of any sort is a horrible burden. Best of luck.

[Sputnik1]

Whenever you hear people talk about alcoholism and their battle with it, Frank Skinner for instance, what they always say is that once you're an alcoholic you are always an alcoholic. 

 

People trying to get a grip of their drinking should get help and try to establish what is causing them to drink too much. Your GP can provide help by referring you to someone that will have much more experience in this.

[Ezekiel 25:17]

I'd say as a starting point if you think it's a problem it probably is, go your GP first port of call.

[RedSand]

Random thread but as we all strangers anyone had any experience of this and who knows when to stop and how us the best way to Stop?

G'day mate,

 

I suffer from alcoholism and am happy to help in any way I can.

But I want to be clear that drinking wasn't my problem.

Drinking was my solution to my problems. Alcohol was my crutch. I used alcohol to help me deal with minor, major and any issue I've ever had. School, work, girlfriend, wife, football...whatever alcohol helped me deal with all of it.

 

I've been sober for 5yrs, and it was easily the best thing I've done in my 39ys of life.

I didn't just stop drinking.

Through hard work I changed the way I thought, reacted and behaved so that I didn't need alcohol as a coping mechanism.

 

I hope that makes sense.

[Bjornebye]

A good mate of mine was a raging alcoholic. Couldn't be in a social situation without being half cut at least. used to have a good 3 bottles of bulmers for every pint you had if you were out with him and could last a 12 hour session at that pace with relative ease. He was overweight, became a real sleaze ball to girls in our friendship group and would only really talk about himself rather than listen to anyone else and their problems/observations. Despite loads of us trying to help him it just wasn't working and we all kind of gave up because he wouldn't stop. 

 

NYE 2012/13 He just decided himself that this will be the last drink he has for 3 months. He stuck to his word and also attended AA classes. The lad still hasn't touched a drop since that NYE. Still goes the meetings, still says its a daily struggle even now nearly 4 and a half years on but he did it. It came out of the blue as well. He must have just had that moment of clarity. 

 

I'm probably one but not on the scale of some people i'm aware of. I reckon a lot of us are but wouldn't realise as alcohol is just a p[art of most peoples lives in this country. If it is effecting work/relationship/kids then it needs looking at pronto. By a specialist or maybe just by yourself, properly. Over a bottle of brandy. 

 

Good luck all suffering. 

[KMD7]

G'day mate,

 

I suffer from alcoholism and am happy to help in any way I can.

But I want to be clear that drinking wasn't my problem.

Drinking was my solution to my problems. Alcohol was my crutch. I used alcohol to help me deal with minor, major and any issue I've ever had. School, work, girlfriend, wife, football...whatever alcohol helped me deal with all of it.

 

I've been sober for 5yrs, and it was easily the best thing I've done in my 39ys of life.

I didn't just stop drinking.

Through hard work I changed the way I thought, reacted and behaved so that I didn't need alcohol as a coping mechanism.

 

I hope that makes sense.

 

That's excellent advice.

 

Saw the thread title and thought Simon was back posting, gutted now

[magicrat]

I have lost two close friends to alcohol addiction, They got advice and offer of help for decades yet were both in denial until the end, Both had decent jobs, homes and families which they lost because of the booze. One of them another mate found dead in his bed after he hadn't been seen for a couple of days and the other fella died of heart failure in hospital brought on by multiple complications of alcohol addiction . I knew them both from teenagers and looking back the signs were there then,  Drinking spirits when we were on beers, drinking at home, never taking a day off from it. One was in his forties when he died the other just made it to 50. A lot of the times when people die there is a whole load of soul searching as to what else could we have done but in these cases they just never let anyone help. With them they never admitted they had a drink problem or if they did it was get people off their back, I look back at the good times we had,

 

I think the moral is that unless people really want help with drink addiction there is not a lot you can do, Be there if the call comes but many times it just doesn't,

[Grinch]

G'day mate,

 

I suffer from alcoholism and am happy to help in any way I can.

But I want to be clear that drinking wasn't my problem.

Drinking was my solution to my problems. Alcohol was my crutch. I used alcohol to help me deal with minor, major and any issue I've ever had. School, work, girlfriend, wife, football...whatever alcohol helped me deal with all of it.

 

I've been sober for 5yrs, and it was easily the best thing I've done in my 39ys of life.

I didn't just stop drinking.

Through hard work I changed the way I thought, reacted and behaved so that I didn't need alcohol as a coping mechanism.

 

I hope that makes sense.

Pretty much this word for word. Only it's nearly four years.

 

I just didn't want to live that way anymore so decided to change. First year or two was a struggle but it does get easier and now I wouldn't go back if you paid me.

 

I couldn't have done it without surrounding myself with the right people at the start. AA, counselling etc. I was stupid enough to believe my drinking and drug taking only affected me, there's been a few wake up calls regarding that since.

 

I'd suggest seeking out your local meetings and/or your gp. I've lost count how many times I talked myself into drinking or smoking again that first year only to have someone talk sense into me. Me and family would not be where we are today if it wasn't for those meetings and the great people I've met in them.

 

Best of luck and if you do decide to try and do something about it, you don't have to do it alone.

 

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[Rick Sanchez C-137]

I brought my friend to meetings. Tried my best to be there for him, but he'd had a serious drink problem since he was about 16 and it was the only coping strategy he ever knew. He died last year at the age of 31.

 

He did, at times, manage small stints off it here and there but unfortunately he was always drawn back to it, and had a few mates he made in AA that would go astray with him.

 

One thing was, he always talked about wanting to control or, and be able to have a few now and again. He couldn't imagine a world without drink in his life.

 

Don't make that mistake. Ask any ex drinker. Life is tough and shit sometimes. But it's infinitely harder when you're constantly off your head. There are so many more things you can do with your life than sit in a pub. Accept that this will have to be an entire change of lifestyle, way of thinking and maybe even social circle. But get help, and do it for yourself.

 

A lot of research suggests addiction is often due to an underlying mental health issue. Talk to someone about that as a possibility too. My friend suffered from anxiety very badly, and could barely look people in the eye without a drink. As he started so young though, I don't know what came first.

[Champ]

Will someone sort that spelling out? Please

[Bjornebye]

Will someone sort that spelling out? Please

 

 

[Bobby Hundreds]

Will someone sort that spelling out? Please

Leave him alone he's pissed.

[littletedwest]

My dad's an alcoholic so are two of my uncles. I have that personality but luckily my hangovers are so bad I can't drink 2 days on the trot.

Unlike them as I have some awareness of my mental health issues ( anxiety low self esteem, being overly emotional) as well.

 

But some people who have never felt that craving have no idea of how it feels when the craving for beer kicks in.

 

I only get pissed 2/3 times a month

[manwiththestick]

I lost my mum last year due to alcohol related illness. For years she struggled with addiction, not heavy drinking more regular drinking, she would go get help and look to have it under control but the slightest thing would set her off again. Despite the best efforts of my dad, myself and my brother and sisters she just got stubborn and started trying to hide her drinking. Came to a head last year when she went to her gp for a regular meeting, got taken in to hospital due to some test results and never came back home. Certainly made me think and whilst I do like a drink I have reigned it in a lot over the last 18 months.

 

You have taken the first step in acknowledging it, I wish you well but try not to do it alone, talk to people, they can be a great help and source of support when you need it most.

[setreal]

Will someone sort that spelling out? Please

 

Tori? No ta

[Carvalho Diablo]

Well I've been out on the piss since half 4 and had a great time. Sunshine, fresh air, cider and fanny all there in the beer garden.

 

I feel your pain.

[Champ]

I brought my friend to meetings. Tried my best to be there for him, but he'd had a serious drink problem since he was about 16 and it was the only coping strategy he ever knew. He died last year at the age of 31.

 

He did, at times, manage small stints off it here and there but unfortunately he was always drawn back to it, and had a few mates he made in AA that would go astray with him.

 

One thing was, he always talked about wanting to control or, and be able to have a few now and again. He couldn't imagine a world without drink in his life.

 

Don't make that mistake. Ask any ex drinker. Life is tough and shit sometimes. But it's infinitely harder when you're constantly off your head. There are so many more things you can do with your life than sit in a pub. Accept that this will have to be an entire change of lifestyle, way of thinking and maybe even social circle. But get help, and do it for yourself.

 

A lot of research suggests addiction is often due to an underlying mental health issue. Talk to someone about that as a possibility too. My friend suffered from anxiety very badly, and could barely look people in the eye without a drink. As he started so young though, I don't know what came first.

 

Its genuinely horrifying, dare I say, sobering, how it can kill at such a young age

[Alan Sex]

I've known one or two alcoholics in my time. The one thing that stands out for me as a common theme (although certainly not all of them) is that when they reach a certain point of drunkenness they feel the need to cut down those around them. Used to have a mate that no one would drink with, as after the fourth pint he would start laying in to whoever he was with - saying the nastiest things that would cut through and leave his target feeling shitty about themselves. I have no idea how, but he just had the ability to get to you.

 

Any of you experienced this? Or been on the receiving end of it? It's worse if you are in a relationship or have a family member with this trait.

 

They always seem to start the next day as if they never said all the terrible things as well.

[Ezekiel 25:17]

A good mate of mine was a raging alcoholic. Couldn't be in a social situation without being half cut at least. used to have a good 3 bottles of bulmers for every pint you had if you were out with him and could last a 12 hour session at that pace with relative ease. He was overweight, became a real sleaze ball to girls in our friendship group and would only really talk about himself rather than listen to anyone else and their problems/observations. Despite loads of us trying to help him it just wasn't working and we all kind of gave up because he wouldn't stop.

 

NYE 2012/13 He just decided himself that this will be the last drink he has for 3 months. He stuck to his word and also attended AA classes. The lad still hasn't touched a drop since that NYE. Still goes the meetings, still says its a daily struggle even now nearly 4 and a half years on but he did it. It came out of the blue as well. He must have just had that moment of clarity.

 

I'm probably one but not on the scale of some people i'm aware of. I reckon a lot of us are but wouldn't realise as alcohol is just a p[art of most peoples lives in this country. If it is effecting work/relationship/kids then it needs looking at pronto. By a specialist or maybe just by yourself, properly. Over a bottle of brandy.

 

Good luck all suffering.

That's absolutely disgusting, having the trust and friendship of a close circle of girls , and drinking Bulmers??

[Kloppite]

G'day mate,

 

I suffer from alcoholism and am happy to help in any way I can.

But I want to be clear that drinking wasn't my problem.

Drinking was my solution to my problems. Alcohol was my crutch. I used alcohol to help me deal with minor, major and any issue I've ever had. School, work, girlfriend, wife, football...whatever alcohol helped me deal with all of it.

 

I've been sober for 5yrs, and it was easily the best thing I've done in my 39ys of life.

I didn't just stop drinking.

Through hard work I changed the way I thought, reacted and behaved so that I didn't need alcohol as a coping mechanism.

 

I hope that makes sense.

That's what I am starting to its a go to.

 

I have a bad day I will have a drink in have a good day I will have a drink it's causing problems with my family and I am not enjoying drinking but just turning to the beer.

 

Going to knock it in the head.

[Ezekiel 25:17]

My dad was an alcoholic and it killed him, awful business really.