Emre Can

[Stickman]

So what would happen if we got Juventus if we both get through in the Euro Cup??

How could you have a player starting for you against a team he's going to join? 

[3 Stacks]

Hasn't reached his full potential here but I don't think he's been lazy or unprofessional. He's just made a smart career decision going to a club where he'll win trophies and make a nice salary. Got no problem with it. 

[JagSquared]

Hasn't reached his full potential here but I don't think he's been lazy or unprofessional. He's just made a smart career decision going to a club where he'll win trophies and make a nice salary. Got no problem with it.

Would you question his mentality to put 100% in for the remaining 6 months?

 

From my own personal experience once my / or a colleagues notice is in I've / they've mentally checked out. it'd be fair to assume the same applies to footballers.

 

Of course we don't see him in training but if his performances drop off in matches even slightly then calls for him to be dropped would be fair.

[JagSquared]

So what would happen if we got Juventus if we both get through in the Euro Cup??

How could you have a player starting for you against a team he's going to join?

The only option would be to suspend players from playing and therefore you'd have situations where the club is punished for a player wanting away. It's why players shouldn't be able to sign until after their contracts are up without some sort of compensation.

[Thoth]

Juventus are confident they will be able to sign Emre Can from Liverpool on a free transfer in the summer. The Serie A side have offered the 23-year-old £85,000 a week

[corro]

So what would happen if we got Juventus if we both get through in the Euro Cup??

How could you have a player starting for you against a team he's going to join?

 

Gotze played for Dortmund against the club he was joining in the champs league final. Must be allowed.

We can easily improve on Can. Not one bit arsed about him coming off the wage bill.

[TheHowieLama]

Exactly - he is Emre Can - he doesn't even get in our midfield much less theirs.

[corro]

He was typically awful again tonight. The highlight being his half arsed attempt to catch up with that speed merchant Sigurdsson. He just couldn't be arsed. He won't be missed.

[Elite]

He won't be missed.

[Grinch]

You might be able to carry one midfielder but never three.   At least Lallana has the excuse of only coming back from injury and clearly needing time to get fit.  Can won't be missed and Milner needs to head out the door with him.

 

Tired of watching sub par midfields tbh, bar a little spell last year when Henderson, Wijnaldum and Lallana formed a good partnership, it's been a shitfest for years.

[Thoth]

He can fuck off now and save the wages, useless overhyped cockwomble

[No2]

Got the armband tonight when Milner went. Interesting timing that giving the noises today.

[G Richards]

Didn’t think he was all that today. Slow and didn’t take hold of the game. Our whole midfield was poor as a unit. Just didn’t seem to have anything there.

 

We’ve seen Can do some good things, but with him not signing a new deal it’s too easy for fans to say he’s phoning it in and going through the motions. It may be a straightforward dip in form, but given the circumstances it’s not what I think. Unfortunately our midfield options are so thin that we may need to continue to call on him, but I’m frustrated we haven’t seen Grujic come in to show us what he can do.

 

Maybe the quality is there, or maybe he’s just a bit short at the top level. I haven’t seen enough to form a view. The bits I have seen of him show a player who is hungry, puts his foot in, and has an eye for goal.

 

I’d rather see him get game time than Emre Can at this stage.

[s(k)aturation]

Didn’t think he was all that today. Slow and didn’t take hold of the game. Our whole midfield was poor as a unit. Just didn’t seem to have anything there.

 

We’ve seen Can do some good things, but with him not signing a new deal it’s too easy for fans to say he’s phoning it in and going through the motions. It may be a straightforward dip in form, but given the circumstances it’s not what I think. 

 

The difference between Can's "best" and "worst", IMHO, isn't a huge gap.

[G Richards]

I’d like to see Grujic get a go. He’s hungry and will give his all. As a bonus we might get a better idea of what he can do. There’s an unavoidable sense that Can is going through the motions.

[s(k)aturation]

There’s an unavoidable sense that Can is going through the motions.

 

 

Perhaps.

But I honestly don't find that enormously noticeable from his best.  Do you, Rev?

[G Richards]

Didn’t think he was all that today. Slow and didn’t take hold of the game. Our whole midfield was poor as a unit. Just didn’t seem to have anything there.

 

We’ve seen Can do some good things, but with him not signing a new deal it’s too easy for fans to say he’s phoning it in and going through the motions. It may be a straightforward dip in form, but given the circumstances it’s not what I think. Unfortunately our midfield options are so thin that we may need to continue to call on him, but I’m frustrated we haven’t seen Grujic come in to show us what he can do.

 

Maybe the quality is there, or maybe he’s just a bit short at the top level. I haven’t seen enough to form a view. The bits I have seen of him show a player who is hungry, puts his foot in, and has an eye for goal.

 

I’d rather see him get game time than Emre Can at this stage.

At his best there are some peaks - a good/great goal here and there, a lung busting run, more pro activity in looking to make good things happen.

 

At present I see more of the slowness, and a bit more neat and today business, like he’s not fully giving his best but just marking time.

[G Richards]

PS - not sure why I quoted myself!

[Guest]

He tried to showboat a little bit in the corner (I think it was 1-1 at this stage) and he miscontrolled the ball, allowing it to run off the pitch. He started having words with someone in the crowd, presumably someone unhappy with his lack of commitment in terms of his contract or simply pulling him up on his lack of skill. It's hard to separate them as it's likely he wouldn't have got stick if he had already signed a contract. I think he's likely to get more of that and it's likely to have an influence on his decision, I would imagine.

[VladimirIlyich]

He's gone get over it.

[chrisbonnie]

Decent player. But not by any means irreplaceable.

 

Best of luck to him.

[Carvalho Diablo]

I feel that Can mostly gets a bad rap on here. He's a good midfielder, far from great, and there is significant room for improvement. My concern is that I haven't noticed any significant improvement from him ever since he joined.

 

He's the only player in the squad to have played in all 5 Christmas games so he is bound to be jaded.

 

I saw someone describe him as "sluggish", and that's bang on imo, certainly atm. Still though, I do think he gives us far more in midfield than any of our other options bar Coutinho and, maybe Ox.

 

To his credit, I also haven't noticed him dialling it in or any lack of heart, even with all of these Juve shennanigans hanging over him. However, if he is leaving then I would like to see his game time reduced and Grujic given his opportunities instead.

I like what I've seen in Grujic so far, big, strong, mobile, confident, really good in front of goal, he just needs to get fit, stay fit, and stop hanging around with Lovren.

 

I would be sad to see Can leave on a free, but imo that's not really on him, more the mismanagement by the money men allowing his contract to run down. We should've been getting a tidy fee for him.

[sir roger]

He tried to showboat a little bit in the corner (I think it was 1-1 at this stage) and he miscontrolled the ball, allowing it to run off the pitch. He started having words with someone in the crowd, presumably someone unhappy with his lack of commitment in terms of his contract or simply pulling him up on his lack of skill. It's hard to separate them as it's likely he wouldn't have got stick if he had already signed a contract. I think he's likely to get more of that and it's likely to have an influence on his decision, I would imagine.

 

My impression was that he was mouthing off at the linesman as he was clearly fouled but as he didn't go down he never got the foul & subsequently ran the ball out of play.

 

I think some of the comments are unfair about Can recently, he is a big unit and can therefore seem a bit cumbersome but has had the hardest workload of all of our players over Xmas , has the most successful tackles in the whole Premiership over that period & I have not discerned any lack of effort whatsoever. 

[BCM]

People can say what they like about his commitment and performances ( although bar a few things i thought he was decent last night).

 

But the one he left on Rooney last night was a thing of beauty,Just as he was running past near our box. Rooney went ballistic and ran crying to the ref who fucked him off. He got hooked soon after.

[BCM]

He will do very well in Italy too. He's a very good centre mid i think he just struggles with the pace of the english game at times.

 

Its slower and more technical in Serie A so i think he will be a hit at Juve