*Shakes head* Everton again.

[redinblack]

2 hours ago, an tha said:

If they ever got bought ala abu dhabi fc and then won stuff the pivot from all the corinthian bullshit they trot out and the pivot away from their local club for local people shite to we are rich and look at us we have got fans from all over the world, we are massive, would be breathtakingly swift.

 

They've shown signs of doing just that even with very limited stuff like Usmanov investing a tenner in them and James Rodriguez attracting 25 twitter followers from further afield than Conwy.

They can just fuck off

[JagSquared]

5 hours ago, Lee909 said:

A sinking stadium fits in well with the sinking ship

 

Atlantis Premier League here they come

If they go bust they could find themselves 10,000 leagues under the premier league.

[Harry Squatter]

 

 

 

[VladimirIlyich]

11 hours ago, redinblack said:

They can just fuck off

A brief and concise post in full.

[Creator Supreme]

Phil McNugget can fuck off. Clear and cynical foul my hoop you baldy bitter Welsh twat!

[VladimirIlyich]

It's a shame the porn magnate Paul Raymond wasn't still around to buy them and make a film about them entitled Electric Boo.

[bizzle10]

18 hours ago, Harry Squatter said:

A founding member of the Premier League. Fucking hell.

 

You were in the top flight the year it changed its name.

But they were very much at the forefront of forming a breakaway league as a member of the greedy 5 or that was only der red shite

[Harry Squatter]

20 minutes ago, bizzle10 said:

But they were very much at the forefront of forming a breakaway league as a member of the greedy 5 or that was only der red shite

Yes and their chairman at the time Philip Carter (who was a staunch Tory) tried to push for a British Super League which would have meant several smaller clubs in the First division would have been pushed out to accommodate the Old Firm, Aberdeen and Dundee United. 

[Harry Squatter]

Just as news emerged of secret meetings between John W Henry and Joel Glazer regarding Project Big Picture, reports of talks involving the top clubs in 1985 indicated that the idea of a Super League was a real possibility, due to the dissatisfaction of the Division One big-hitters.

A meeting in September 1985 between the Big Five - Arsenal, Tottenham, Everton, Liverpool and Manchester United - along with Manchester City, Newcastle and Southampton, came to a startling conclusion. Unless certain demands were met, the top clubs expressed a desire to form a breakaway league under the Football Association, ending the control of the Football League. 

There were many reasons cited for this outcome. But the bottom line was that the chairman of the top clubs wanted a bigger share of television and sponsorship money, plus greater voting rights, in echoes of the current situation. Yet the alternative plans laid out by the chairman of the eight clubs in 1985 - they were later joined by Aston Villa, West Ham, Watford and Sheffield Wednesday - were radical.

Proposing a top division of 20 clubs (reduced from 22) and an extra two clubs in Division Two (taking the total to 24), the plan went further in that it suggested the bottom two divisions should be regionalised, administered separately to the top two divisions, and have closer links to the Gola League. 

Alex Fynn, a representative of the Saatchi and Saatchi advertising agency representing the league explained the reasoning: "It would be more of an event for say Tranmere to meet Bolton or Preston in a North West division than to travel down to Torquay." But the move would also force many clubs to go part-time, and access to the top two divisions would be limited.

Reports in the Express suggested that promotion out of the bottom "feeder leagues" would be restricted to "clubs of stature", and that the top two divisions would work on a two-up two-down system to reduce the fear factor. Other proposals included switching the FA Cup to midweek, a British Cup to replace the Milk Cup, and clearing more weekends so that national teams would benefit from extra preparation time.

"I am sad that these reports are leaking out, but given the pressures that clubs are facing it is not entirely unexpected," League secretary Graham Kelly revealed, as the murmurings began. With the European club ban, falling attendances, a ban on alcohol in grounds, safety improvements, and no television coverage of football at the start of the 1985/86 season, clubs were feeling the financial strain.

An unnamed source at one of the clubs involved indicated the potential of the plans: "The mind boggles at the marketing possibilities of a small group. We have no option but to do it, and there is no better time. It is not a question of greed. Unless we do it we may all go down." The talk of a revolution increased in volume as the winter progressed.

In essence, the Division One clubs wanted 50% of all sponsorship and television money, two votes per Division One club in Football League ballots, and a reduction in the voting majority needed from the 75% to 60%. Power and money; that's just the way it is, some things will never change. Ultimately, the Super League concept was used as a bargaining chip to ensure that the bigger clubs got what they wanted.

"We cannot allow ourselves to sink for the benefit of all," Everton chairman Philip Carter explained. "If our plan does not go through, the First Division will have to look at the future again." Manchester United chairman Martin Edwards backed up this view. "Make no mistake, the big bang will happen unless the rest of the League give us their backing."

[Harry Squatter]

[Anubis]

 

[Code]

What is actually going on with Demarai Gray? Just frozen out, even if he is one of their best players?

[Bob]

2 minutes ago, Code said:

What is actually going on with Demarai Gray? Just frozen out, even if he is one of their best players?

Didn’t he get flogged to Saudi for nowt on their deadline day?

[Creator Supreme]

3 minutes ago, Bob said:

Didn’t he get flogged to Saudi for nowt on their deadline day?

He did, he plays for Gerrards mob!

[Code]

11 minutes ago, Bob said:

Didn’t he get flogged to Saudi for nowt on their deadline day?

Aha I missed that. 

[Karl_b]

4 hours ago, Harry Squatter said:

Just as news emerged of secret meetings between John W Henry and Joel Glazer regarding Project Big Picture, reports of talks involving the top clubs in 1985 indicated that the idea of a Super League was a real possibility, due to the dissatisfaction of the Division One big-hitters.

A meeting in September 1985 between the Big Five - Arsenal, Tottenham, Everton, Liverpool and Manchester United - along with Manchester City, Newcastle and Southampton, came to a startling conclusion. Unless certain demands were met, the top clubs expressed a desire to form a breakaway league under the Football Association, ending the control of the Football League. 

There were many reasons cited for this outcome. But the bottom line was that the chairman of the top clubs wanted a bigger share of television and sponsorship money, plus greater voting rights, in echoes of the current situation. Yet the alternative plans laid out by the chairman of the eight clubs in 1985 - they were later joined by Aston Villa, West Ham, Watford and Sheffield Wednesday - were radical.

Proposing a top division of 20 clubs (reduced from 22) and an extra two clubs in Division Two (taking the total to 24), the plan went further in that it suggested the bottom two divisions should be regionalised, administered separately to the top two divisions, and have closer links to the Gola League. 

Alex Fynn, a representative of the Saatchi and Saatchi advertising agency representing the league explained the reasoning: "It would be more of an event for say Tranmere to meet Bolton or Preston in a North West division than to travel down to Torquay." But the move would also force many clubs to go part-time, and access to the top two divisions would be limited.

Reports in the Express suggested that promotion out of the bottom "feeder leagues" would be restricted to "clubs of stature", and that the top two divisions would work on a two-up two-down system to reduce the fear factor. Other proposals included switching the FA Cup to midweek, a British Cup to replace the Milk Cup, and clearing more weekends so that national teams would benefit from extra preparation time.

"I am sad that these reports are leaking out, but given the pressures that clubs are facing it is not entirely unexpected," League secretary Graham Kelly revealed, as the murmurings began. With the European club ban, falling attendances, a ban on alcohol in grounds, safety improvements, and no television coverage of football at the start of the 1985/86 season, clubs were feeling the financial strain.

An unnamed source at one of the clubs involved indicated the potential of the plans: "The mind boggles at the marketing possibilities of a small group. We have no option but to do it, and there is no better time. It is not a question of greed. Unless we do it we may all go down." The talk of a revolution increased in volume as the winter progressed.

In essence, the Division One clubs wanted 50% of all sponsorship and television money, two votes per Division One club in Football League ballots, and a reduction in the voting majority needed from the 75% to 60%. Power and money; that's just the way it is, some things will never change. Ultimately, the Super League concept was used as a bargaining chip to ensure that the bigger clubs got what they wanted.

"We cannot allow ourselves to sink for the benefit of all," Everton chairman Philip Carter explained. "If our plan does not go through, the First Division will have to look at the future again." Manchester United chairman Martin Edwards backed up this view. "Make no mistake, the big bang will happen unless the rest of the League give us their backing."

 

A British Cup would be a good alternative to the League Cup.

[TheHowieLama]

28 minutes ago, Code said:

Aha I missed that. 

 

Was meant to have sent a text to Gerrard saying "Take me on."

 

 

[Lee909]

They sold Gray for about 10ml

 

[Bobby Hundreds]

7 hours ago, Anubis said:

 

I still can't wrap my head around the outrage of one potential yellow card incident. That was it! Young two yellows no arguments both where yellow plus he got away with one, the handball is as clear a handball as you will ever see. Everton claiming they where robbed... of what you had nothing, showed nothing. Compared to the rest of the seasons games for everyone this was a well reffed game, compared to the spurs game which was easily the worst officiated game I've watched in my entire life it was a masterclass in reffing. Blame Young for being a complete dickhead, blame Keane for stupidity and blame Dyche for having no bollocks.

 

Their managers and players afterwards too, especially Dyche after our spurs game. When they say "it all balances out" they do realise that means some other side has to face injustice for that to happen but that certainly wasn't in this game Everton being a Everton and the media desperate to turn a shit game into something dramatic.

[Anubis]

It serves Dyche’s interests to take the heat off his shit football and tactics on the day.

 

It serves Everton fans interests to be hard done by and have something else to feed into their ‘everyone is out to get us’ narrative.

[VladimirIlyich]

8 hours ago, Karl_b said:

 

A British Cup would be a good alternative to the League Cup.

It would eliminate lower league clubs and make them have to travel even further afield and incur more costs. This is ok for the PL and some Championship teams but not for most. The regional leagues idea really should make a return though. 

[Pete]

Hurry up and go bust/get relegated you sad, meaningless fucking useless cunts.  

[AngryOfTuebrook]

1 hour ago, Anubis said:

It serves Dyche’s interests to take the heat off his shit football and tactics on the day.

 

It serves Everton fans interests to be hard done by and have something else to feed into their ‘everyone is out to get us’ narrative.

It serves our interests: if they admit that they deserved to lose, they might try to do something to change it.  As it is, they'll go into the rest of their games believing that you can put in a shithouse display, refusing to even try to attack, and the only thing that can stop you getting a result is corrupt refereeing.

[Barrington Womble]

3 hours ago, Bobby Hundreds said:

I still can't wrap my head around the outrage of one potential yellow card incident. That was it! Young two yellows no arguments both where yellow plus he got away with one, the handball is as clear a handball as you will ever see. Everton claiming they where robbed... of what you had nothing, showed nothing. Compared to the rest of the seasons games for everyone this was a well reffed game, compared to the spurs game which was easily the worst officiated game I've watched in my entire life it was a masterclass in reffing. Blame Young for being a complete dickhead, blame Keane for stupidity and blame Dyche for having no bollocks.

 

Their managers and players afterwards too, especially Dyche after our spurs game. When they say "it all balances out" they do realise that means some other side has to face injustice for that to happen but that certainly wasn't in this game Everton being a Everton and the media desperate to turn a shit game into something dramatic.

 

That's my view, they seem to be getting all mental because of 1 yellow - although obviously as that made a red it's a big decision. But tarkowski got away with one with that free kick on the edge of the box when on a yellow. 

 

But it seems to me they think konate is a massive red, young shouldn't have been sent off and it wasn't a pen. I don't quite know why they think this. 

 

But anyway, fuck them, the mental cunts. They're on a run of games at the moment where it looks hard work for them between now and Christmas. If they set up every week the way they did this week, they won't have many more points now than they will then. 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

Presumably, in their world, it would have killed us to have to take a defender off, even though we chose to swap a defender for a midfielder because our defence was redundant in the absence of any Blueshite attacking.