Police are cunts

[melons]

1 hour ago, Rico1304 said:

Being a copper does create a very weird dynamic with their colleagues IMO.  They work weird hours, they see all kinds of horrible shit, deal with the worse of society and a whole swathe of society think they are twats before they’ve interacted with them. It’s not an easy job by any stretch and I’m generally a supporter but there’s obviously a massive problem that needs sorting.  

I know a fair few coppers and a fair few paramedics, most of our firemen are volunteers. They all see shit. 

 

That pre judged rhetoric is exactly the reason that those with it should all be binned off. That or this new degree level should have shit loads of social care elements added to the course. 

 

 

3 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

Padded isolation cell?  This isn’t Silence of the Lambs. 

You're telling me he won't be classed as a high risk prisoner? You're saying he'll be put on a general block with everyone else? Yeah, whatever. 

My sister beat up a paedophile, it was a violent act, she wasn't put in a low security prison until they fully knew her 4ft 11½ stature wasn't a risk to everyone else. She also wasn't a copper, so it was pretty reasonable to assume there wouldn't be the world and their wife wanting to have a chance at her. 

[Arniepie]

22 minutes ago, melons said:

3 women a week commit suicide as a direct result of DV. Thats not the women that are killed, thats those that end the suffering themselves. 

 

The thing is, we're talking about the far end of the spectrum here, we're talking about rape and murder. We're not talking about being felt up, we're not talking about comments made about our appearance, we're not talking about the glass ceiling. 

 

This is the far end of the spectrum, it's all the stuff before that that are warning signs. It's one thing to have a bit of banter. Mr Melons regularly piss takes my driving skills and the damage it does to the cars, the return fuck you or i'll make sure i'll do proper damage next time usually suffices. Could my sister say that to her husband without getting a kicking, no she couldn't. 

I'd have no issue with it, he's going to be in a padded isolation cell anyway. He won't be allowed to integrate with other inmates. It doesn't matter where he goes so long as he can't hurt anyone ever again. 

 

You mentioned the other 75% as though no-one was speaking out for them. It also insinuates that there isn't a massive issue. The issue is huge, like a massive beacon going off all around forever, it's just ignored.  

 

No-one for one second thinks it's all men. It is more than a single man though, it's more than a handful of men. I don't know the actual stats, but i'd go as far to say it's common practice in many men to see women as the inferior. you brought up Salman Abedi, we can go down the route of religious practices that place women on the open field for abuse practices from other cultures.... 

 

 

Someone earlier up mentioned the objectifying of women in porn, again you've got to look at the context - does that mean you look at women in porn and think they're only there for your gratification, that they don't exist for anything else or any other purpose? No, because you're not that dense. You know they've totally got a life outside of your 7 minute clip. To which you've obviously finished off twice.  

 

No-one is saying its all men, we know its not. That doesn't stop the issues though, it doesn't stop us being told to not run with our earphones it (how many men are told this), it doesn't stop us being weary of getting in taxis alone (do men get that fear), it doesn't stop us carrying our car keys a certain way in certain areas (were men told to do that?), it doesn't stop us making sure we park in well lit areas or even looking for areas with that CCTV (other than for reasons of your car being damaged does that cross your mind). That heightened state of fear is not media brought out, it's experience for more women than it isn't. As i mentioned above this is the extreme end, society needs to start addressing it early doors. Don't be the arse in front of our sons, raise our daughters with the strength they need to be able to challenge or walk away, when work mates think certain things are funny and it's not, call them out on it. 

 

In the early days physically meeting many of you lot actually restored much of my faith in men. Think about it, my knowledge of men up to the age of 30, not younger, but 30. Uncles abusing their sisters and nieces, physically and sexually. Personally being held up by the neck and thrown across a room because i dared to change my surname to my stepdads. Being made to go out and do manual work for staying out past whatever time i was expected to be in - not massively I'm talking like 30 minutes. That wasn't just gardening/chopping wood etc, that was going out on a boat puling up lobster pots between vomiting over the other side of the deck. Being called a cunt for not taking a cheating husband back after he'd cheated on more than one occasion, telling me i'm damaging my kids for it, moreover them all supporting him and actually telling him how to maliciously get back at me. Being spat on and scream. This was my normal. It's never going to be my childrens normal. It shouldn't be anyones normal. 

 

I shrug all this off that my family are just nuts. It's not just males in my so called family though. If you sit a group of women down they can list reams of abuse from men. 

 

 

 

And please, please don't think I'm not acknowledging female on male domestic violence. That totally happens, that is also to be condemned.  

 

 

I think the most shocking aspect was the fact that it was almost buried away and not really highlighted.

I do think it's an issue that is very often brushed under the carpet. 

There was a woman on r4 who said the issue is almost structural and issues such as how boys are taught to view woman as they froe up to the appalling conviction rates of rape and the ordeal women have to go through if and when, it gets it court.

[Rico1304]

1 minute ago, melons said:

I know a fair few coppers and a fair few paramedics, most of our firemen are volunteers. They all see shit. 

 

That pre judged rhetoric is exactly the reason that those with it should all be binned off. That or this new degree level should have shit loads of social care elements added to the course. 

 

 

You're telling me he won't be classed as a high risk prisoner? You're saying he'll be put on a general block with everyone else? Yeah, whatever. 

My sister beat up a paedophile, it was a violent act, she wasn't put in a low security prison until they fully knew her 4ft 11½ stature wasn't a risk to everyone else. She also wasn't a copper, so it was pretty reasonable to assume there wouldn't be the world and their wife wanting to have a chance at her. 

I’m telling you nothing.  You seem to be reading things into my posts to I won’t be replying any more.  

[melons]

3 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

I’m telling you nothing.  You seem to be reading things into my posts to I won’t be replying any more.  

I'm reading what you're putting, excuses. There is no excuse for certain behaviours. 

 

 

4 minutes ago, Arniepie said:

I think the most shocking aspect was the fact that it was almost buried away and not really highlighted.

I do think it's an issue that is very often brushed under the carpet. 

There was a woman on r4 who said the issue is almost structural and issues such as how boys are taught to view woman as they froe up to the appalling conviction rates of rape and the ordeal women have to go through if and when, it gets it court.

 

I do hope its changing though, maybe i'm naïve but i look at my kids (all pretty much adults) their peers and those of my friends who're all decent human beings. They know violence isn't big, clever etc. There is also a much stronger cohesion in terms of support mechanisms for each other. It's the establishment that needs to catch up. I don't just mean police, its also the CPS, health, education, social care.  

 

I can't wait to watch Prince Andrew get roasted, the more the untouchables are held to account, the stronger the womens access to justice may be.  

 

[Rico1304]

4 minutes ago, melons said:

I'm reading what you're putting, excuses. There is no excuse for certain behaviours. 

 

 

 

I do hope its changing though, maybe i'm naïve but i look at my kids (all pretty much adults) their peers and those of my friends who're all decent human beings. They know violence isn't big, clever etc. There is also a much stronger cohesion in terms of support mechanisms for each other. It's the establishment that needs to catch up. I don't just mean police, its also the CPS, health, education, social care.  

 

I can't wait to watch Prince Andrew get roasted, the more the untouchables are held to account, the stronger the womens access to justice may be.  

 

I’m excusing nothing ffs. I’m just telling you what I observed.  I’m fucking dead sure you’d be happy for your tiny sister to be in prison with a rapist and murderer.  Definitely out now.  

[melons]

8 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

I’m excusing nothing ffs. I’m just telling you what I observed.  I’m fucking dead sure you’d be happy for your tiny sister to be in prison with a rapist and murderer.  Definitely out now.  

 

 

To be fair, she probably was in prison with rapists and murderers. They're not all male, you know. 

 

 

 

[TheBitch]

Oh great, here’s @melons charging into the thread burning her considerable size bra in everyone’s face. 
 

 

*runs

[halewood pete]

7 minutes ago, TheBitch said:

Oh great, here’s @melons charging into the thread burning her considerable size bra in everyone’s face. 
 

 

*runs

 

[Curly]

15 hours ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

Yes. That's exactly what happens. A bloke just says he's a woman and that's enough.

 

Cack like this makes the other thread unreadable.

Repped for “cack”

[Skidfingers McGonical]

 

[melons]

4 hours ago, TheBitch said:

Oh great, here’s @melons charging into the thread burning her considerable size bra in everyone’s face. 
 

 

*runs

 

Ha, run, this'll make you run - how many women now bother wearing proper nice bras? Working from home brought a whole new level of comfort. My biggest gripe on office days is layering up and fighting with Mrs Triumph 4 hook back to look almost presentable to the public. It's fucking grim. Those bras were definitely invented by either a man or someone over 60. 

Slouch/sleep bras are the new bra burning equivalent for the 20/21 work from home women. Mr Melons walks past them just shaking his head asking why. 

 

 

 

 

1 hour ago, Skidfingers McGonical said:

 

 

I'd seen that earlier. So incredibly sad. 

[Strontium]

8 hours ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

I think he's trying to class Kylie in her skimpies as porn.

 

Oh, that fully clothed porn which was all the rage in the Victorian era.

 

I was negged for posting a girl in a dress. It's all a bit Taliban.

[VladimirIlyich]

8 hours ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

I think he's trying to class Kylie in her skimpies as porn.

It does objectify given that nobody seems to have posted a video of one of her songs or spoke about the millions of records she's sold. It's a far cry from porn but it is not taking her seriously as an artist. 

[skend04]

Unless Wayne Couzens started out on his descent to murder by looking at the Kylie thread some people need to stop and take some time out.

Trivialising it to "oh we shouldn't look at pictures of Kylie" is a bit of a piss take of the situation.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

1 hour ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

Oh, that fully clothed porn which was all the rage in the Victorian era.

 

I was negged for posting a girl in a dress. It's all a bit Taliban.

Was she showing an ankle? If so, that stuff belongs in NSFW tags.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

1 hour ago, VladimirIlyich said:

It does objectify given that nobody seems to have posted a video of one of her songs or spoke about the millions of records she's sold. It's a far cry from porn but it is not taking her seriously as an artist. 

I posted Can't Get You Out of My Head, which is a banging pop tune.

 

(That's not to suggest my motives were purely honourable, of course.)

[VladimirIlyich]

43 minutes ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

I posted Can't Get You Out of My Head, which is a banging pop tune.

 

(That's not to suggest my motives were purely honourable, of course.)

I was being slightly sarcastic of course,but I am no expert on this particular case other than the fact he is an absolute cunt. The sad thing is that it seems there are others similar to him within the force though,particularly the Met.

[Arniepie]

5 hours ago, Skidfingers McGonical said:

 

There are some utter cunts around.

[Strontium]

 

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/oct/03/metropolitan-police-officer-charged-rape-hertfordshire

[Section_31]

[Harry's Lad]

21 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

Fucks sake.

[Arniepie]

27 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

2 bad apples

 

[Arniepie]

The timing is more than a little iffy 

[rb14]

14 hours ago, melons said:

You mentioned the other 75% as though no-one was speaking out for them. It also insinuates that there isn't a massive issue.

No I didn't. I mentioned nothing of the sort. And I'm asking what the massive issue is. What is the massive issue? And what qualifies it as "massive"? I'm asking for clarity. A number of people on here have told me fairly emphatically that nobody on here is saying it's "men". 

 

This is a thread on "Police are cunts." I really don't want to pursue the issue of homicide and/or male violence on this thread. To suggest Couzens is somehow representative of police is disgraceful. To suggest he's representative of men is disgraceful. What happened to this wholly blameless woman is utterly appalling, disgraceful and reprehensible. I hope he rots. 

 

I'm afraid there are lots of things wrong with the police, who have to try to balance a very tricky, perhaps impossible task of public servitude and upholding law and order. Mostly, they get it right, often they get it very wrong.