Summer 2024 Transfer Thread

[TD_LFC]

8 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

I don't think we will see Trent as a RB next season.

 

Imo if Mo stays and the team is going to be effective he moves infield.

 

Do you play him as the right sided mid in a 433, as part of the double pivot (presumably with Mac Allister, or a defensive 6 and Mac in the 10) or on the right of a 3 in the 4231?

 

It's a good problem to have I guess but I'm not sure where best to use him and who to partner him with.

 

(Which is true of lots of our midfielders and why a #6 would solve a lot of problems)

[TheHowieLama]

3 minutes ago, TD_LFC said:

 

Do you play him as the right sided mid in a 433, as part of the double pivot (presumably with Mac Allister, or a defensive 6 and Mac in the 10) or on the right of a 3 in the 4231?

 

 

That's way above my paygrade and would think alot will be down to his performances in any of those spots.

[3 Stacks]

34 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

Or Tsimikas. Would prefer that tbh.

Slot doesn't strike me as someone who'd play a bunch of centre back profiles in the backline, but neither did Guardiola, so who knows.

[Smell The Glove]

12 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

I don't think we will see Trent as a RB next season.

 

Imo if Mo stays and the team is going to be effective he moves infield.

Haha fucking hell

[Carvalho Diablo]

3 hours ago, TD_LFC said:

Would make sense for that player to be able to play from the right given the make up of the squad at the moment.

 

We were linked to Rodrygo in past but that was never going to happen so will they take a chance on someone like Luis Guilherme (incredibly raw but promising), especially is Salah does end up staying for a season (if he doesn't then that makes less sense).

Kubo

[3 Stacks]

1 minute ago, Carvalho Diablo said:

Kubo

Why do you like this guy? Looks nebbish.

[Lee909]

13 minutes ago, TD_LFC said:

 

Do you play him as the right sided mid in a 433, as part of the double pivot (presumably with Mac Allister, or a defensive 6 and Mac in the 10) or on the right of a 3 in the 4231?

 

It's a good problem to have I guess but I'm not sure where best to use him and who to partner him with.

 

(Which is true of lots of our midfielders and why a #6 would solve a lot of problems)

 

 

If we have a good pair of fullbacks i think in many home games and a fair few of away games we could quite easily get away with Trent and Mac Allister as the pivot, providing Trent switches on to the workload now he is playing where he wants. If signed Geertruida and played him or Bradley at RB and Robbo/Another at left back 

[Lee909]

12 minutes ago, 3 Stacks said:

Slot doesn't strike me as someone who'd play a bunch of centre back profiles in the backline, but neither did Guardiola, so who knows.

 

He often plays Geertruida as one fullback and has  shifted Hancko out there when needed. 

[TheHowieLama]

5 minutes ago, Lee909 said:

 

He often plays Geertruida as one fullback and has  shifted Hancko out there when needed. 

Out where - my 3 minute research shows this lad in the middle.

[Lee909]

Think you could see something like this against the non top 8 clubs, you would likely be a bit vunerable at times but having more fullbacks that are defensive, but still having the ability to overlap would cover some of that. 

 

 

 

 

Without the ball Szoboszlai and Mo swap positions and Szoboszlai drops back into the midfield. 

[TD_LFC]

9 minutes ago, Lee909 said:

 

 

If we have a good pair of fullbacks i think in many home games and a fair few of away games we could quite easily get away with Trent and Mac Allister as the pivot, providing Trent switches on to the workload now he is playing where he wants. If signed Geertruida and played him or Bradley at RB and Robbo/Another at left back 

 

Absolutely in lots of games him and Mac Allister would be fine, but there's also squad composition issues and what we do in games where we aren't at home or against better opposition.

 

Does Trent the full time midfielder prevent us from signing a #6, especially if you then buy a right back, you might be able to get away with Geertuida as a right backTrent as the mid and then Geertuida becoming a part time DM when you need more solidity in the middle but is that optimum use of either player because who misses out and who plays right back.

 

Seems like there's lots of moving parts with no clear solution to Trent being a full time mid even if it might be the best solution for him.

[Lee909]

2 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

Out where - my 3 minute research shows this lad in the middle.

 

He has played at LB at times since joining. 13 at LB and 38 as CB. 

Hanko is 27 in december so i doubt he is a target for us anyway

[cloggypop]

1 hour ago, 3 Stacks said:

Joe Gomez did this season what Geertruida would do. Would seem redundant. 

 

RB, CB, DM. 

 

Indeed. 

 

Also did LB. 

[TheHowieLama]

1 minute ago, Lee909 said:

 

He has played at LB at times since joining. 13 at LB and 38 as CB. 

Ah, I just had a look at this season  - he looks to have played there once - they got another fella at LB methinks.

[TheHowieLama]

2 minutes ago, cloggypop said:

 

RB, CB, DM. 

 

Indeed. 

 

Also did LB. 

Is he better than Gomez?

[Lee909]

2 minutes ago, TD_LFC said:

 

Absolutely in lots of games him and Mac Allister would be fine, but there's also squad composition issues and what we do in games where we aren't at home or against better opposition.

 

Does Trent the full time midfielder prevent us from signing a #6, especially if you then buy a right back, you might be able to get away with Geertuida as a right backTrent as the mid and then Geertuida becoming a part time DM when you need more solidity in the middle but is that optimum use of either player because who misses out and who plays right back.

 

Seems like there's lots of moving parts with no clear solution to Trent being a full time mid even if it might be the best solution for him.

 

 

If you are trying to be more solid for away games, if you want to play Trent i think he could also do a job on the right side of the attacking 3. Alot imo depends on Trents attitude which seems to have been a issue with him defensively(at least imo), maybe a move to midfield will get him doing the dirty work/maybe not

[Lee909]

1 minute ago, TheHowieLama said:

Ah, I just had a look at this season  - he looks to have played there once - they got another fella at LB methinks.

 

Yeah its not his first position, just saying that it looks like he will play a CB wide if needed and if they can. Im not really suggesting it as a long term thing. Ideally you get a younger version of Robertson. To come in. 

[cloggypop]

2 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

Is he better than Gomez?

 

Who knows? 

 

Gomez would probably be boss at Feyenoord. 

 

Hendo gets the odd game at Ajax. 

[cloggypop]

I don't reckon we need Geertruida. Good player like. 

[TheHowieLama]

off the list

 

[TD_LFC]

20 minutes ago, Lee909 said:

 

 

If you are trying to be more solid for away games, if you want to play Trent i think he could also do a job on the right side of the attacking 3. Alot imo depends on Trents attitude which seems to have been a issue with him defensively(at least imo), maybe a move to midfield will get him doing the dirty work/maybe not

 

If you're committing to him being a midfielder and buy a right back you're unlikely to be buying another midfielder so then you're committing to Endo against better teams/away from home.

 

It all seems a bit imperfect and built to satisfy Trent rather than what's best for the team (even though you probably should be building around your most creative player).

 

At every turn the answer seems to be buy a water carrier (a more talented water carrier) as it gives you more options to play around with the creative players in midfield when you have that protection but I'm becoming more and more convinced we might not.

[johnsusername]

Really hope the new manager bins off the Trent thing. Just stick him in midfield. Fed up seeing teams have the freedom of our right hand side. 

[Smell The Glove]

48 minutes ago, TD_LFC said:

 

Do you play him as the right sided mid in a 433, as part of the double pivot (presumably with Mac Allister, or a defensive 6 and Mac in the 10) or on the right of a 3 in the 4231?

 

It's a good problem to have I guess but I'm not sure where best to use him and who to partner him with.

 

(Which is true of lots of our midfielders and why a #6 would solve a lot of problems)

The way to play Trent is making him the free man from defence. Pretty sure Slot will be doing that with 2 no.6's.

[Carvalho Diablo]

43 minutes ago, 3 Stacks said:

Why do you like this guy? Looks nebbish.

 

I disagree. Whenever I've seen Kubo (6 or 7 times maybe) his been brave and dogged, quick, skillful and creative, not afraid to use both feet and he's got a lot of room to grow.

 

Think he'd be a really shrewd signing.

[Smell The Glove]

9 minutes ago, johnsusername said:

Really hope the new manager bins off the Trent thing. Just stick him in midfield. Fed up seeing teams have the freedom of our right hand side. 

The Trent 'thing' won't be binned off. Hopefully it will be improved