Alisson Becker

[Chip Butty]

 

[dave u]

On 13/11/2022 at 12:13, JohnnyH said:

Hey @dave udoes your dad still think Kelleher should be number 1?

 

Yes. He'll never back down. Although he's gone quiet on the Darwin / Donkey shouts and has given him a bit of credit recently, so who knows.

[Lee909]

7 hours ago, TheHowieLama said:

You can do all the what ifs you like.

 

Clemence was 6 feet tall - he wouldn't be a keeper in todays game regardless of coaching or training advancements.

 

So is Pickford and Matt Ryan

[JohnnyH]

6 hours ago, dave u said:

 

Yes. He'll never back down.

So he’s pretty much the same as 99.9% of the forum about any topic, ever?

[Joey8FrogsLegs]

5 hours ago, Lee909 said:

 

So is Pickford and Matt Ryan

And David Raya.

[VladimirIlyich]

9 hours ago, an tha said:

He isn't that tall is he....6'3"

6 ft 5 I believe? As tall as Jurgen I think.

[Numero Veinticinco]

19 minutes ago, VladimirIlyich said:

6 ft 5 I believe? As tall as Jurgen I think.

 

Alisson is 1.91m which is 6ft 3in. Not sure where you're getting this 'gangly' and 'uncoordinated' thing from mate. He's literally the opposite of that. Also, not really sure why you think a tall keeper would be overlooked now. 

[El Dangerous]

6 hours ago, Lee909 said:

 

So is Pickford and Matt Ryan

So you’re saying he wouldn’t be a good keeper in todays game?

[TheHowieLama]

19 hours ago, Lee909 said:

 

So is Pickford and Matt Ryan

 

Heh, not sure which side of the argument you are on with those two examples.

[Freddo]

21 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

 

Heh, not sure which side of the argument you are on with those two examples.

Casillas is 5ft 11. He didn’t do bad did he.

[TheHowieLama]

4 minutes ago, Freddo said:

Casillas is 5ft 11. He didn’t do bad did he.

Is he the gay fella?

[Freddo]

7 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

Is he the gay fella?

He was the hacked fella yeah

[TheHowieLama]

1 minute ago, Freddo said:

He was the hacked fella yeah

Is this a euphemism?

 

Great player Iker - take the height out of it.

 

Alisson is easily the one player from this side who slots into a greatest 11. You would have an argument on your hands to suggest Clemence was the best keeper in the league for any length of time, much less the world.

 

Robbo maybe - Salah for instance could score another 100 golas over the next 5 years and still would be on the bench.

 

VvD may have shot with a couple more trophies.

[VERBAL DIARRHEA]

On 12/11/2022 at 19:54, chrisbonnie said:

Is there any doubt he been our best ever keeper? 

 

I'm 41, so can really just remember the latter days of grobbelaar, but in my memory, Allison is absolutely streets ahead of any other keeper we've had, certainly in my memory anyway. 

Plenty of doubt.

[an tha]

16 hours ago, VladimirIlyich said:

6 ft 5 I believe? As tall as Jurgen I think.

No.

 

He is shorter than both Matip and VVD

 

 

[VladimirIlyich]

17 hours ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

 

Alisson is 1.91m which is 6ft 3in. Not sure where you're getting this 'gangly' and 'uncoordinated' thing from mate. He's literally the opposite of that. Also, not really sure why you think a tall keeper would be overlooked now. 

I said 'in the past' he could be overlooked for being 'awkward' and 'gangly' not nowadays. There weren't too many keepers much over 6 ft to 6ft 2 max back in Clemence  career. Not sure why we're arguing over Allison's brilliance,that is undisputed, but it's unfair to compare generations with so many different factors at play.

[TheHowieLama]

4 hours ago, VladimirIlyich said:

I said 'in the past' he could be overlooked for being 'awkward' and 'gangly' not nowadays. There weren't too many keepers much over 6 ft to 6ft 2 max back in Clemence  career. Not sure why we're arguing over Allison's brilliance,that is undisputed, but it's unfair to compare generations with so many different factors at play.

Who gets into the all time 11?

[VladimirIlyich]

3 hours ago, TheHowieLama said:

Who gets into the all time 11?

I am sitting on the fence. But Allison is a bit special compared to all but Clemence in the modern era.

[Jose Jones]

Clem had what 14 years at the club?

Will take a while for Alisson to match that. If he gets close I don’t think it will be an argument.

Still a bit weird that Bob replaced Clem at 33 with Grobbelaar.

 

[Red_or_Dead]

3 hours ago, Jose Jones said:

Clem had what 14 years at the club?

Will take a while for Alisson to match that. If he gets close I don’t think it will be an argument.

Still a bit weird that Bob replaced Clem at 33 with Grobbelaar.

 

Think Clem wanted to go, new challenge and all that.  I think the plan was for Grobblear to play in the reserves for a few seasons, but unfortunately it didn't work out like that.  Cue our early exits from the EC in 82 and 83, he made up for it in 84 though!

 

 

[Razoray]

16 hours ago, TheHowieLama said:

Is this a euphemism?

 

Great player Iker - take the height out of it.

 

Alisson is easily the one player from this side who slots into a greatest 11. You would have an argument on your hands to suggest Clemence was the best keeper in the league for any length of time, much less the world.

 

Robbo maybe - Salah for instance could score another 100 golas over the next 5 years and still would be on the bench.

 

VvD may have shot with a couple more trophies.

Salah gets in on the right in my all time XI anyway - it used be Terry Mac. Van Dijk surely partners Hansen in most people's team. 

Robbo doesnt have the greatest of competition for thd LB slot. Most people woukd shoehorn the likes of Nicol or Emlyn Hughes given our scarcity of top LBs.

Alisson makes my team now ahead of Clem. I genuinely think he could be the greatest ever. 

[Red Hot]

6 minutes ago, Razoray said:

Salah gets in on the right in my all time XI anyway - it used be Terry Mac. Van Dijk surely partners Hansen in most people's team. 

Robbo doesnt have the greatest of competition for thd LB slot. Most people woukd shoehorn the likes of Nicol or Emlyn Hughes given our scarcity of top LBs.

Alisson makes my team now ahead of Clem. I genuinely think he could be the greatest ever. 

Jerry Btrne and Alec Lindsay 2 crackers 

[TheHowieLama]

31 minutes ago, Razoray said:

Salah gets in on the right in my all time XI anyway

On the right of what?

 A 442?

[Razoray]

1 hour ago, TheHowieLama said:

On the right of what?

 A 442?

Probably would look more like a 4231 with Kenny behind Rush but it's a fantasy team. I'm not worried about the opposition if I have Salah and Barnes outside the other 2 with Gerrard and Souness protecting them. 

[Razoray]

1 hour ago, Red Hot said:

Jerry Btrne and Alec Lindsay 2 crackers 

Indeed but before my time