Should the UK remain a member of the EU

[Megadrive Man]

I suppose there is a small crumb of comfort if Brexit means Farage wasting 25 years of his life to not get the Brexit he wants and his two bit party being made redundant before their first election!

[Bjornebye]

3 minutes ago, MegadriveMan said:

I suppose there is a small crumb of comfort if Brexit means Farage wasting 25 years of his life to not get the Brexit he wants and his two bit party being made redundant before their first election!

Fuck him. Its the rest of us I'm concerned about. He was redundant as a voice a long time ago. if he ever even had one to begin with. Just some pissed up racist wanker spouting off on the telly and twitting into the ground at force in a helicopter. 

[Carradona]

The DUP

 

*shakes head*

[Bjornebye]

 

 

 

[Mudface]

This is starting to feel like the decision to go into Iraq. Everyone knew it was wrong and based on lies, no one could believe the government could be so stupid and yet enough cynical bastards and useful idiots went along with it to allow it to happen. You can only hope that, just as Iraq destroyed the Labour vote, this will destroy the Tories. 

[Mudface]

Well...

 

Quote

 

Revealed: Question Time audience member who praised Boris Johnson for 'knocking things out of the park' is Lib Dem-voting bricklayer (who laughs off claims he was a Tory plant)

Mr Dennis has never voted Conservative before but says he would if there was an election tomorrow, because he likes Mr Johnson's determination to get things done.

 

Daily Mail, so take it with a pinch of salt, but hardly surprising.

[Megadrive Man]

Perhaps he was inspired by all the elected conservative mps in the Lib Dems? 

[Mudface]

There does seem to be a lot of crossover there. Hard right economics, but we don't care if you're a poof- well Farron does, but let's forget about him, eh.

 

I see the second referendum fever dream has dropped off the charts now too. Not the right time, apparently. Fuck knows when the right time is then, they've been beating Corbyn over the head for years for not supporting one, then when it comes to the crunch, they finally realise what Corbyn did some time ago- there's not enough parliamentary support for it, and what little there is, is fucking flaky.

[cloggypop]

1 hour ago, MegadriveMan said:

The odds on these sort of things don't really mean much. You could get 6/1 on the UK to vote leave the EU on the day of the referendum.

Much better off shorting the pound surely? 

[Mudface]

6 minutes ago, cloggypop said:

Much better off shorting the pound surely? 

I gave all my pounds away yesterday, looking forward to a healthy return in a couple of weeks.

 

That is how it works isn't it?

[Megadrive Man]

Yeah that's what I did. No point messing around with bookmakers.

[Megadrive Man]

1 minute ago, Mudface said:

I gave all my pounds away yesterday, looking forward to a healthy return in a couple of weeks.

 

That is how it works isn't it?

Yeah as soon as Boris gets his incredible deal through the pound will soar and we'll all be raking it in.

[cloggypop]

I'm heavily invested in brown sauce. 

[Red Shift]

1 hour ago, Mudface said:

Crocodile tears. He knows Brexit Party plc will be irrelevant if this goes through.

He's already made his money from shorting the referendum result. He'll be sharking his next deal outside of the EU

[Mudface]

 

2 minutes ago, cloggypop said:

I'm heavily invested in brown sauce. 

I've divested my brown sauce holdings and am going into the curry sauce game. I hear there's a big untapped market in Liverpool .

[TheHowieLama]

6 minutes ago, Mudface said:

I gave all my pounds away yesterday, looking forward to a healthy return in a couple of weeks.

 

That is how it works isn't it?

No -- everytime you go buy something you short the guy by a pound. Adds up.

[Bjornebye]

 

 

[Red Shift]

8 minutes ago, MegadriveMan said:

Yeah as soon as Boris gets his incredible deal through the pound will soar and we'll all be raking it in.

Couple that with QE4 which has just begun (60 billion a day from the Fed to Wallstreet - interestingly, the global media are either ignorant or just ignoring it ) and the pound looks like a solid investment. Obviously the real winners have already loaded up the carts.

[Red Shift]

1 hour ago, MegadriveMan said:

Just watched a video by the Brexit party. Farage looks like a broken man! They are convinced the deal will pass.

 

Farage saying, Its the second worst deal in history. Its a slight improvement on Mays deal. Its not Brexit and initially he was confident it would be voted down.

 

He is blaming Junker for saying there won't be an extension. He thinks it guarantees a second referendum.   

 

He goes on to say, He feels shell shocked and this is the worst he's felt since he started campaigning to leave the EU. 

Interestingly he says that this is the worst stage of political humiliation we have ever seen and he will go after BJ at the next election.    

Yeah I watched that myself. They were all trying to digest it and clearly uncomfortable. They singled out foreign policy as being a shambles under the new treaty....er…. 'deal'

[The Golden Eel]

12 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

 

 

Would

[Red Shift]

Outer House of the Court of Session in Edinburgh ruled against a case brought by lawyer, Jolyon Magham QC, that claimed the Boris Johnson Withdrawal Agreement was unlawful and so should not be put in front of MPs tomorrow for a vote.

Lord Pentland hearing the case said the petition put before him was 'of very doubtful competency'.

"The orders sought would unquestionably interfere to a major extent with the proposed proceedings in Parliament." As well as: "It is a cardinal principle of constitutional law that the courts should not intrude on the legitimate affairs and processes of Parliament. "I consider that it should be left to Parliament to proceed in relation to the draft withdrawal agreement in the manner and according to the procedures that Parliament considers most appropriate." And he concluded: "... that the petitioner’s applications for interim orders are misconceived and unjustified. They have no or at best a weak prima facie case."

I think it was crowd funded.

[Mudface]

Melanie Onn, in a joint article with some Tory.

 

I'd never heard of her, but she's a member of Labour Friends of Israel. and a Chicken Couper who was given a second chance and invited back into the shadow cabinet.

 

Snake.

[sir roger]

Weirdly enough Kate Hoey is supposed to have said she will vote against Johnson's deal. Probably not hard enough for her.

 

Really think Corbyn should withdraw the whip on Tory deal voters. Absolutely no downside to this as whatever the result of the vote look at the cunts on that list he can get rid of of in one fell swoop.

[Barrington Womble]

4 hours ago, sir roger said:

Bet Victor going 8/13 the deal passing , 11/8 against it failing.

Very worrying.

 

I think the Labour whips and Corbyn need to start with the thumbscrews. A kinder politics is fine but letting your country go to shit rather than confronting people is unacceptable. Let’s see if the Labour rebels worry quite so much about their constituents Brexit rights. If it means they won’t get a chance to stand again as a Labour candidate.

Maybe Corbyn fancies his chances of a GE win more without brexit still on the table and he's quite happy to let it slide without much of a fught?

[Guest Pistonbroke]

Far too many MP's fiddling while the UK burns. The future of the country is way more important than party politics. Unfortunately far too many MP's only give a shit about what is best for themselves. Whether Brexit happens or not, and in indeed in what form it takes should it happen, the UK is on a slippery slope if things don't change on the political front. It amazes me that in a World where Information and the truth is so easy to find that people still swallow the bullshit. Guess as long as they can keep on living the wannabe middle class status due to credit and more credit they are happy.