Donald Trump

[Jairzinho]

One positive side-effect if Trump actually managed to get elected is that it would shut up a few of the irritating rah-rah "the US is the greatest country in history" types, assuming they are programmed to feel embarrassment.

 

All of those people will vote for Trump.

[Pureblood]

One Muslamic ray-gun attack on US soil away from him becoming President.  

[Nunavut Patrick]

The problem is that while funny, he could actually win running against Hillary.

I just don't see it, I think he gets wiped out and the GOP knows this. Rubio will be seen as a moderate compared to Trump.

 

Mind you, one more attack on home soil and all bets off.

 

Only Sanders is offering anything resembling change and some of the things that are being said at Trumo rallies are right out of the 1930s.

 

one guy in a reflecrive safety vest had a sign that said , I will work on building the Wall.

[Boss]

Care to expand?

 

Waco and the email scandal recently to name but two.

[Nunavut Patrick]

Waco and the email scandal recently to name but two.

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$200,000 fee to speak at Goldman Sachs private function.

 

And no transcript of said speech.

 

Since most of the Kennedy's are either dead, addicts, or irrelevant Hilary and Bill are the new Democratic royalty.

[Biscao]

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$200,000 fee to speak at Goldman Sachs private function.

 

And no transcript of said speech.

 

Since most of the Kennedy's are either dead, addicts, or irrelevant Hilary and Bill are the new Democratic royalty.

 

Don't forget her sticking it out with a serial sex offender.

 

 

I just don't see it, I think he gets wiped out and the GOP knows this. Rubio will be seen as a moderate compared to Trump.

 

 

 

Well, most, except possibly Ted Cruz, is a moderate compared to Trump. Besides that I think you underestimate how many people in the US dislike Hillary intensely. The fact that she's struggling against a self pronounced socialist, in the US of A, says it all really. Considering how Trump has campaigned against moderate candidates in his own party (basically finished JEB before he even started campaigning branding him a loser) I can see him running a very nasty (and possibly successful) campaign against a woman with so many skeletons in her closet. Nothing is off limits to this guy and he knows how to use dirt he can find to the maximum effect. 

 

I hope Sanders can overturn Clinton, but I doubt it. 

[Rico1304]

Brett Easton Ellis just tweeted he's been for dinner in Hollywood and everyone was voting Trump. If he's got support there we are fucked.

[Section_31]

Jeb's dead babe

[Biscao]

Brett Easton Ellis just tweeted he's been for dinner in Hollywood and everyone was voting Trump. If he's got support there we are fucked.

Wtf? I thought Hollywood were supposed to be a liberal bastion?

[Hooch]

One Muslamic ray-gun attack on US soil away from him becoming President.

 

Hmm.

 

He wouldn't orchestrate such a thing, would he?

Aren't a high proportion of successful businesspeople borderline sociopaths?

 

Scary thought.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

 

 

Only Sanders is offering anything resembling change and some of the things that are being said at Trumo rallies are right out of the 1930s.

 

one guy in a reflecrive safety vest had a sign that said , I will work on building the Wall.

Scary - but I still like the "nil satis" puns.

[Chris]

One positive side-effect if Trump actually managed to get elected is that it would shut up a few of the irritating rah-rah "the US is the greatest country in history" types, assuming they are programmed to feel embarrassment.

 

yeah, you're proper wrong there. It'd only give those types more steam.

[JohnnyH]

Brett Easton Ellis just tweeted he's been for dinner in Hollywood and everyone was voting Trump. If he's got support there we are fucked.

No chance. The Hollywood elite are lining up to take the piss out of Trump and his moronic supporters. It's a daily piss take now. I can't see them quietly in private thinking they'll vote for him.

 

Trump will lose a Presidential vote spectacularly. Every poll is pointing that way. He simply doesn't have the numbers behind him. He's just the loudest boy in the playground at the moment and so is getting all the attention.

[Biscao]

No chance. The Hollywood elite are lining up to take the piss out of Trump and his moronic supporters. It's a daily piss take now. I can't see them quietly in private thinking they'll vote for him.

 

Trump will lose a Presidential vote spectacularly. Every poll is pointing that way. He simply doesn't have the numbers behind him. He's just the loudest boy in the playground at the moment and so is getting all the attention.

 

The problem with this is that if he continues to get all the attention he will get higher numbers. Nobody - absolutely nobody - thought he'd last longer than October. Now he's currently the front runner. It's insane! I think it'll be harder for him to win the republican primary than the general election. I seriously doubt you can win the US presidency while your under investigation by the FBI.

[Anubis]

I'm actually getting a little nervous about Trump. I know that he doesn't appear to have the numbers to get home in a Presidential election at the moment, but when he started the Republican nomination race nobody thought he had the numbers then either.

 

The one thing we know about Trump is that he won't hesitate to go after what he sees as Clinton's skeletons in the cupboard, and also the fact that Clinton will be seen as establishment, and Trump the guy gunning for the establishment.

 

You can only hope common sense prevails and the numbers stay the way they are.

[Section_31]

I think Trump doing well at this stage says more about the other candidates than it does about him. People are just bored and fed up with what they're offered. Sanders has benefited for the same reason, as has Corbyn. 

[cloggypop]

Hmm.

 

He wouldn't orchestrate such a thing, would he?

Aren't a high proportion of successful businesspeople borderline sociopaths?

 

Scary thought.

Is he really a successful businessman though? He inherited a shitload of money and would be worth twice as much today if he had simply invested it in an index fund and owned no businesses.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/09/03/if-donald-trump-followed-this-really-basic-advice-hed-be-a-lot-richer/?tid=a_inl

[Bobby Hundreds]

Employed a lot of people doing it his way though. I find it hard to believe you can be in construction in New York in the 80s and 90s and not be tainted by some serious corruption.

[JohnnyH]

The problem with this is that if he continues to get all the attention he will get higher numbers. Nobody - absolutely nobody - thought he'd last longer than October. Now he's currently the front runner. It's insane! I think it'll be harder for him to win the republican primary than the general election. I seriously doubt you can win the US presidency while your under investigation by the FBI.

 

Absolutely.  And I think he might very well win the nomination.  But if he does, it'll be one of the most one sided Presidential races in US history.  He simply doesn't have the support.  At worst, mainstream Republicans will actually vote Democrat just to prevent him being the worst President ever whilst leading their party, and at best, Republicans just won't vote at all.  It'll be phenomenally one sided.

 

I think the more interesting thing will be how he acts, or what he does, when he does lose.   

[Biscao]

Absolutely.  And I think he might very well win the nomination.  But if he does, it'll be one of the most one sided Presidential races in US history.  He simply doesn't have the support.  At worst, mainstream Republicans will actually vote Democrat just to prevent him being the worst President ever whilst leading their party, and at best, Republicans just won't vote at all.  It'll be phenomenally one sided.

 

I think the more interesting thing will be how he acts, or what he does, when he does lose.   

 

I really hope you're right (he's basically an American Berlusconi), because this is about to get real. Should he become president, he'd turn the USA into his private kitty, much like what Putin and his cronies have done in Russia. There's one week until "super-Tuesday", hopefully he's more or less out of it next Wednesday. But it doesn't look bright: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/gop-candidates-chart-different-paths-as-race-goes-national-on-super-tuesday/2016/02/21/52aae04c-d8d4-11e5-925f-1d10062cc82d_story.html

 

Unlike you I still think he has a chance should he win the primaries. He'll build his case against Hillary by pointing to the millions she's received from Wall Street, compared to his independent campaign. This resonates well with voters in this election. That being said, it'll be a complete disaster for the Western world should he actually win.

 

If he loses I guess we'll see another example of his complete lack of class.

[Stu Monty]

The problem with this is that if he continues to get all the attention he will get higher numbers. Nobody - absolutely nobody - thought he'd last longer than October. Now he's currently the front runner. It's insane! I think it'll be harder for him to win the republican primary than the general election. I seriously doubt you can win the US presidency while your under investigation by the FBI.

 

Don't see how that makes any sense mate. He just needs to get enough of the nutjob element of the Republicans to vote for him to get the nomination, he needs people he is actively encouraging hate towards to vote for him to win the election. 

 

As that post I put up earlier pointed out, even if he took 60% of the white vote (he won't) he needs 30% of minorities to vote for him. It just isn't going to happen in my book. I think Republicans are far more worried than Democrats about him winning the nomination.

 

The idea that Clinton (who I have no love for and is solid gold establishment) is in any way a worse candidate than Trump is just plain wrong. In the pocket of Goldman or not she is not openly attacking minorities in the way that Trump is. She's significantly better than the evil dross the Republicans are picking from.

[Biscao]

Don't see how that makes any sense mate. He just needs to get enough of the nutjob element of the Republicans to vote for him to get the nomination, he needs people he is actively encouraging hate towards to vote for him to win the election. 

 

As that post I put up earlier pointed out, even if he took 60% of the white vote (he won't) he needs 30% of minorities to vote for him. It just isn't going to happen in my book. I think Republicans are far more worried than Democrats about him winning the nomination.

 

The idea that Clinton (who I have no love for and is solid gold establishment) is in any way a worse candidate than Trump is just plain wrong. In the pocket of Goldman or not she is not openly attacking minorities in the way that Trump is. She's significantly better than the evil dross the Republicans are picking from.

 

Well, you'd think he'd do terrible with minorities... However: He's polling better than any other republican with minorities. 

 

http://www.wnd.com/2015/12/minorities-line-up-behind-donald-trump/

 

Because a new poll, which still has Trump leading the race, shows 40 percent of blacks are lining up behind Trump, as are 45 percent of Hispanics, and even nearly 19 percent of Asians.

Blacks and Hispanics, in fact, even support Trump at a higher level than whites.

 

It's a bit mad, but there's nothing indicating he will automatically lose the votes even of those he's bashing. And he's doing signifacantly better with minorities than most republican candidates in the past.

 

I agree that none of this makes any sense at all, but looking at the numbers ahead of super-Tuesday this is all looking very real to me. It's still within his reach to beat Cruz in Texas!

[lifetime fan]

Don't see how that makes any sense mate. He just needs to get enough of the nutjob element of the Republicans to vote for him to get the nomination, he needs people he is actively encouraging hate towards to vote for him to win the election. 

 

As that post I put up earlier pointed out, even if he took 60% of the white vote (he won't) he needs 30% of minorities to vote for him. It just isn't going to happen in my book. I think Republicans are far more worried than Democrats about him winning the nomination.

 

The idea that Clinton (who I have no love for and is solid gold establishment) is in any way a worse candidate than Trump is just plain wrong. In the pocket of Goldman or not she is not openly attacking minorities in the way that Trump is. She's significantly better than the evil dross the Republicans are picking from.

 

Establishment Republicans maybe, but the gun totting fucking idiots love him.

 

He'll easily win the nomination.

 

And then get destroyed by Hinton.

[lifetime fan]

As an aside, has there been any explanation about why the daft cow was using a personal email?

[Stu Monty]

Well, you'd think he'd do terrible with minorities... However: He's polling better than any other republican with minorities. 

 

http://www.wnd.com/2015/12/minorities-line-up-behind-donald-trump/

 

Because a new poll, which still has Trump leading the race, shows 40 percent of blacks are lining up behind Trump, as are 45 percent of Hispanics, and even nearly 19 percent of Asians.

Blacks and Hispanics, in fact, even support Trump at a higher level than whites.

 

It's a bit mad, but there's nothing indicating he will automatically lose the votes even of those he's bashing. And he's doing signifacantly better with minorities than most republican candidates in the past.

 

I agree that none of this makes any sense at all, but looking at the numbers ahead of super-Tuesday this is all looking very real to me. It's still within his reach to beat Cruz in Texas!

 

Unless I'm mistaken that's a poll of Republicans, not the general population.

 

So he polls 40% of black republicans, not 40% of black people. I'd imagine he'll be nowhere near double digits in the wider population, when the option of a democrat is also available.

 

Edit - Just had a look at the data, very much a poll of Republican voters. 75% of the respondents consider themselves Conservative or Very Conservative - 5% consider themselves Liberal or Very Liberal.