A thread about a man named Xabi

[Hyppia 4]

You really think so? As much as I hope you're right, I would prefer to see him prove himself on loan this year.

 

And I'm with Coop on the pricing of our players. If we can't get 7-8m pounds for Arbeloa, there's not much use in selling him now.

 

As for Xabi it is pay up or shut up time for Real. I'd hold out for 35m.

 

I don't see the point in sending him on loan when he is our best back up for Johnson if Arbeloa goes, the money would be better served elsewhere and he is also one of the most mature and consistent performers we've had in years in defence.

 

This lad reminds me of Carragher in that I just believe he will make it because he has done things the right way and has talent. His covering of the centre back is excellent and his last ditch tackling (ala Carra) is his "trademark" if you like.

 

The lad has more than earned his chance for me and sending him on loan just doesn't make any sense, he is either good enough to be given a chance as a back up or not.

[Hyppia 4]

Because Perez won't pay a lot of money for a player he doesn't see as glamorous. It's what happened with Makalele all over again, and you'd hope Xabi will see that. Perez's whole business plan is based on shirt sales and tour fees, and Alonso isn't the sort of player who'll add to that, except through his on-pitch excellence, which Perez isn't that bothered about.

 

It looks more and more like it'll be Mascherano who goes and Alonso who stays - Valdano's admitted today they're miles away from our valuation - which doesn't exactly speak volumes about Masche's loyalty after Rafa rescued him from the scrapheap. Apparently Guardiola sees a lot of himself in Mascherano, which suggests he hasn't seen him pass recently.

 

Don't be fooled that the Madridistas don't want Xabi, in 2004 he was their most wanted player according to polls and they still would love to have him and his shirt would sell make no mistake.

 

The problem is that Madrid believe they can get him cheaper. They knew they wouldn't get Ronaldo cheaper, they tried and the price got hiked up again. They knew they wouldn't get Kaka cheaper, especially given there were other clubs prepared to pay more. No one is in for Xabi and his last valuation was 15m by around Rafa himself. As great as Xabi is (and Madrid know it or they wouldn't be after him) paying over double the price you could have got him last season based off one good season is not something you would be urging us to do.

 

Add to that the fact they have other irons in the fire with Ribery and Villa (to some extent) and also perhaps Silva and it is about spreading the money.

 

Madrid may come across as stupid in signing Kaka and Ronaldo but both give them something they didn't have and they will pay for themselves as you said (within a few years).

[Kurt]

Song for Xabi - Joe Dolce

 

Xabi, Xabi, if you stay ita makea mea 'appy

Xabi, Xabi, if you leave ita bea soa crappy

 

Ahh shaddap you face.

 

or song for Xabi - Should I stay or should I go

 

Should I stay or Should I go

If I stay I will earn double

If I go I will make trouble

Come on and let me know

Should I stay or should I go

[RedinSweden]

or song for Xabi - Should I stay or should I go

 

Should I stay or Should I go

If I stay I will earn double

If I go I will make trouble

Come on and let me know

Should I stay or should I go

 

That should be "If i go i will earn treble" I reckon.

[Code]

How many players have we sent out on loan who then eventually haven't been sold?

 

It's a kiss of death

 

If the club believe in him enough to give him a 3 year contract, they should give him a chance.

 

If a loan is the only way forward then it should only be to a premier league club, and as contraversial as it may sound, the best club for him would probably be Everton.

 

Loan deals are diffcult in the way a loan player will most likely have to be an onbvious improvent on the player he is competing against which actually belongs with the club to get enough playing time for it to be worthwhile.

 

Especially if the loan is set up so the player can get playing time and then be brought back opposed to a loan deal where the loaning club will have an option to buy if they are satisfied with his services.

 

I`m not sure there are many clubs in the PL where Darby would be the obvious first choice and Everton does certainly not fit into the category.

[WhiskeyJar]

The only place on there I can see it is INTORRESTING saying it. Again.

 

Ah. Was that your point?

 

The reason for my posting was to prove that Yossi signed a contract but no where does it say it was for 70k.

[redrosetints]

havent seen this elsewhere, its on GOAL.com, so not exactly, well you know.

 

But it does contain quotes, so may be real.

 

 

Franck Ribery & Xabi Alonso Are Out Of Real Madrid's Price Range - Jorge Valdano

With a lot of money already spent, it is not clear how much more Madrid have to buy players this summer...

7 Jul 2009 14:47:18

 

 

Real Madrid general director Jorge Valdano has acknowledged that as far as the signings of Franck Ribery and Xabi Alonso go, the prices are too high for los Blancos to make successful moves at the moment.

 

Bayern Munich have reportedly put an €80 million price-tag on the head of their French international winger. With regards to Alonso, Liverpool are apparently keen to keep the midfielder and Madrid have already had two bids rejected for the Spaniard.

 

In an interview with El Partido de la Una, Valdano was asked about the situation with Alonso, and said no deal is close.

 

"Xabi Alonso is a priority if he fits into our budget, but that does not seem to be the case. We are very far away from the figures that Liverpool have presented," he explained.

 

Likewise, Valdano acknowledged that Bayern's valuation of Ribery has all but put Madrid off buying him.

 

"It is a figure that is out of place. It is the same thing as them saying that they do not want to sell him," he said.

 

James Walker-Roberts, Goal.com

[INTORRESTING]

they are such a joke, 80 for ronaldo was stupid, they could have probably got him for 50 or 60 if Calderon wasn't such a clown.

[Hyppia 4]

:D more good news on the Xabi staying line.

 

Come on!

[SpeedyG]

havent seen this elsewhere, its on GOAL.com, so not exactly, well you know.

 

But it does contain quotes, so may be real.

 

 

Franck Ribery & Xabi Alonso Are Out Of Real Madrid's Price Range - Jorge Valdano

With a lot of money already spent, it is not clear how much more Madrid have to buy players this summer...

7 Jul 2009 14:47:18

 

 

Real Madrid general director Jorge Valdano has acknowledged that as far as the signings of Franck Ribery and Xabi Alonso go, the prices are too high for los Blancos to make successful moves at the moment.

 

Bayern Munich have reportedly put an €80 million price-tag on the head of their French international winger. With regards to Alonso, Liverpool are apparently keen to keep the midfielder and Madrid have already had two bids rejected for the Spaniard.

 

In an interview with El Partido de la Una, Valdano was asked about the situation with Alonso, and said no deal is close.

 

"Xabi Alonso is a priority if he fits into our budget, but that does not seem to be the case. We are very far away from the figures that Liverpool have presented," he explained.

 

Likewise, Valdano acknowledged that Bayern's valuation of Ribery has all but put Madrid off buying him.

 

"It is a figure that is out of place. It is the same thing as them saying that they do not want to sell him," he said.

 

James Walker-Roberts, Goal.com

 

There was an article in one of the spanish papers explaining this. Apparently the 300m they had was 180m in cash (well loans) and the rest was to be made up from sales. Well they've spunked all their cash and there hasn't been a queue of clubs willing to give them the 120m they expected. Xabi putting the 18th deadline out there has worked in our favour.

[Randy Marsh]

Nice and refreshing for us to finally have a set of hefty stones when it comes to transfer negotiations. The Parry days of getting dry bummed by other clubs seem dead, which is the one positive I can level at the yanks and in turn Ayre/Purlslow.

[shaunstrudwick]

Real Madrid can fuck right off!

[Guest Ulysses Everett McGill]

Real Madrid can fuck right off!

 

Lets not start sucking each others dick quite yet

[kop]

That should be "If i go i will earn treble" I reckon.

 

If I stay I will win treble

If I go I will count my money from the bench....ehhhble

[Red Nick]

Who really wants Xabi to stay afterall this

 

Its a mess

 

Real are saying its the price, We have indicated its the price and Xabi wants to join Madrid its Gareth Barry in reverse if he stays.

[JohnnyH]

Who really wants Xabi to stay afterall this

 

Its a mess

 

Real are saying its the price, We have indicated its the price and Xabi wants to join Madrid its Gareth Barry in reverse if he stays.

 

After all what?

 

All the fans on websites going nuts every 10 mins when they've hit refresh on a Xabi Alonso thread and there is no update?

 

Xabi was playing an important tournement and is now on his holidays. His day is passed enjoying the weather and his family. When the time comes he will make his absolute final decision and that will be that. He will be sold or he will stay.

 

If it wasn't for the internet, we would be getting one newspaper report every couple of weeks or so that Madrid are still interested and that would be it.

 

The hysteria is caused by people posting 100 times a day on a thread when the person concerend is on the beach and not thinking of football for another few weeks.

[Catch22]

Who really wants Xabi to stay afterall this

 

Its a mess

 

Real are saying its the price, We have indicated its the price and Xabi wants to join Madrid its Gareth Barry in reverse if he stays.

 

 

I want him to stay.

 

Nothing disturbing has happened at all

 

Xabi saw a chance to get more money & we are in the process of responding.

 

It is a 3-way negotiation as he is in demand from 2 suitors, which is what it has always been.

 

He was brilliant last year & hence has 2 top clubs competing to give him more cash- Good luck to him.

[Ted]

Fuck off with the 'He's in it for the money' shit.

[Royal Family]

Who really wants Xabi to stay afterall this

 

Its a mess

 

Real are saying its the price, We have indicated its the price and Xabi wants to join Madrid its Gareth Barry in reverse if he stays.

 

I know what you are saying, but as I've been saying for over a week now, Real are also telling his agent that Xabi isn't doing enough to push for a move. He's a very laidback character is Xabi - not much bothers him, and he seems happy to leave it to the clubs. Which rather - finally - nails the myth that has been peddled on here since last summer that he is desperate to leave and despises Rafa. I'd love to know by the way where this myth come from; as my hunch is that it goes back to Bascombe drip-feeding (some ultimately exaggerated) info to some of his associates who post on here, and it's ballooned from there.

[Ted]

Bascombe also drip-fed the Americans with intelligence saying there were WMD's in Iraq. The bastard.

[Catch22]

Fuck off with the 'He's in it for the money' shit.

 

 

 

If he isn't making the move for that reason, then why hasn't he issued a formal transfer request?

 

Because, it would,er, cost him money, maybe?

 

 

There is nothing wrong with working for money. What do you work for?

[Ted]

He's not going for the money so don't talk shite.

 

And there's a slight difference between the wage of a footballer and the wage of whatever the hell it is I do. So poor example.

[Royal Family]

Bascombe also drip-fed the Americans with intelligence saying there were WMD's in Iraq. The bastard.

 

And that intelligence was about as accurate as most of Chris's stories since he left the Echo!:whistle:

[Ted]

You mean like the one about Rafa getting sacked that duped 1500 people into a march?

[Catch22]

He's not going for the money so don't talk shite.

 

And there's a slight difference between the wage of a footballer and the wage of whatever the hell it is I do. So poor example.

 

 

 

You know about it's about money. I know it's about money.

We know what has caused it & Xabi has discissued it in the Spanish media.

 

The problem is people would then have to discuss it rationally & sensibly, without trying to emotionally apportion blame.