Keir Starmer

[AngryOfTuebrook]

1 hour ago, Scooby Dudek said:

That's it, you are officially expelled from the Corbynista Cult of Cool People (CCCP).* 

I always knew you were a extreme right wing sycophantic corporatist cunt, no offense.

 

 

 

 

EDIT: *Corbynista Cult of Completely Principled also applies

That's it. I'm off to form the Centrist Corporatist Cunts Party.

[Gnasher]

2 hours ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

That's it. I'm off to form the Centrist Corporatist Cunts Party.

Full up to the brim, heres the view from there 

 

 

 

[Numero Veinticinco]

1 hour ago, Gnasher said:

Full up to the brim, heres the view from there 

 

 

 

I don’t suppose he went on to detail any of these equivalencies? 

[Jairzinho]

He'll be pleased to know he, along with Ian Austin, has booked a place on my 2021 Death list. Fair play to him for that. 

[Bruce Spanner]

 

 

Well, ladies, that’s it, it’s over.

 

I know a couple of members who are quite 'engaged' around there and this doesn't suprise me, they're dickheads.

[Mudface]

35 minutes ago, Bruce Spanner said:

 

 

Well, ladies, that’s it, it’s over.

 

I know a couple of members who are quite 'engaged' around there and this doesn't suprise me, they're dickheads.

What did the Trumpton branch have to say?

[Bruce Spanner]

8 minutes ago, Mudface said:

What did the Trumpton branch have to say?

 

 

There'll be riots if thsi continues.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

13 hours ago, Numero said:

I don’t suppose he went on to detail any of these equivalencies? 

He's made a statement and doesn’t need to back it up. If you ask him to explain it, then you're being dishonest and refusing to move forward. 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

1 hour ago, Bruce Spanner said:

 

 

Well, ladies, that’s it, it’s over.

 

I know a couple of members who are quite 'engaged' around there and this doesn't suprise me, they're dickheads.

Now, if you really want to start drawing equivalencies, I'd start with the people who attacked and undermined the democratically elected leader of the Labour Party between 2015 and 2019 and those who are doing it now.

 

Pricks.

[Numero Veinticinco]

12 minutes ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

He's made a statement and doesn’t need to back it up. If you ask him to explain it, then you're being dishonest and refusing to move forward. 

In which case... I accept his argument as valid on the basis of ‘because I said so’ logic. Seems reasonable. 

[Numero Veinticinco]

2 hours ago, Bruce Spanner said:

 

 

Well, ladies, that’s it, it’s over.

 

I know a couple of members who are quite 'engaged' around there and this doesn't suprise me, they're dickheads.

Any idea on the number of votes? 

[Bruce Spanner]

3 minutes ago, Numero said:

Any idea on the number of votes? 

 

if their last vote was an indicator I'd assume similar numbers this time.

 

FFS.

 

 

[Numero Veinticinco]

4 minutes ago, Bruce Spanner said:

 

if their last vote was an indicator I'd assume similar numbers this time.

 

FFS.

 

 

They missed a trick in not writing ‘demand’ in full caps. 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

48 minutes ago, Bruce Spanner said:

 

if their last vote was an indicator I'd assume similar numbers this time.

 

FFS.

 

 

Camberwell Green is one of 10 branches in Camberwell & Peckham, so I suspect the numbers will be much smaller.

[Bruce Spanner]

2 minutes ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

Camberwell Green is one of 10 branches in Camberwell & Peckham, so I suspect the numbers will be much smaller.

 

Possibly, you can't really get much info on them, but they only have 80+ members on their, private, Facebook group.

[Numero Veinticinco]

I’d imagine it’s about 7. Absolute body blow to Starmer. Still, I’m sure they are honestly just concerned about his ability to win an election. I’m absolutely certain that they passed similar motions about the last leader when it became clear. 
 

Right? 

[Gnasher]

On 05/01/2021 at 13:47, Jairzinho said:

The people he needs to stand up for are going to vote for him anyway.

 

Are they? Look how easy Scotland turned against the Labour party, or more recently party of the north of England. I'm not sure its wise for a modern day Labour leader fo take any vote for granted 

 

On 05/01/2021 at 13:47, Jairzinho said:

He needs the "bit of a cunt" vote. Not the window licking far right, but the flip floppers. The type of wankers that might be put off by him saying he doesn't want teachers to be on ventilators, etc. 

 

Couldn't agree more.

On 05/01/2021 at 13:47, Jairzinho said:

The tactic appears to be to say as little as possible about anything. The Biden route. It obviously makes him come across as one of the dullest, most uninspiring, weathervane politicians to have ever lived but you have to assume some laptop gimps have crunched the numbers and reckon it'll pay off. 

 

Its seems the plan and with the election four years away maybe its wise although in general I'm not sure the safety first message works. Biden really should have hammered Trump, the result should not have ended as close as it did. The election before last the polls showed Bernie Saunders would have beat Trump easily if the Democrats chose him over Clinton. 

 

After the bluster and success of Trump and Johnson and in an age of slogans I'm not sure if softly softly is going to be enough. Biden's got a tough four years ahead of him and who's to say another Trump or the man himself wont be back next time? And without a virus to derail the bluster.

 

 

Heres the man who the right wing of the Democrats stopped being president 4 years ago.. no safety first time to be bold

 

 

 

 

On 05/01/2021 at 13:47, Jairzinho said:

It also allows Johnson to keep hanging himself which, hopefully will also switch a few of the "bit of a cunt" group back to Labour.

 

Johnson seems to get away with topping himself on a regular basis. I think a bold vision regarding health, environment and public ownership maybe needed to win power. 

[sir roger]

Politics-wise here and around the globe I don't think the genie can be put back in the bottle , dull and competent isn't a winning combination for voters with an increasingly short concentration span and lack of interest in details.

[Numero Veinticinco]

4 minutes ago, sir roger said:

Politics-wise here and around the globe I don't think the genie can be put back in the bottle , dull and competent isn't a winning combination for voters with an increasingly short concentration span and lack of interest in details.

I know he’s not the most memorable guy, but let’s not forget Biden just won with more votes than any president ever. 

[mattyq]

5 minutes ago, sir roger said:

Politics-wise here and around the globe I don't think the genie can be put back in the bottle , dull and competent isn't a winning combination for voters with an increasingly short concentration span and lack of interest in details.

It worked for GrandPappy Biden.

It also worked for Major and May

May is interesting as despite her being the worst campaigner in history she still won the election

I wouldn't have said John Smith was massively charismatic but he was on course to win big 

[Scooby Dudek]

Ed Miliband ran a campaign of say as little as possible, at the time even the Tories thought they could not win against him because they were so disliked, didn't work out.

[mattyq]

I supported Ed.

Looking back he was a fucking shit leader that made a whole string of terrible decisions

Think he'd make a fine Cabinet Member

[Bruce Spanner]

4 minutes ago, mattyq said:

I supported Ed.

Looking back he was a fucking shit leader that made a whole string of terrible decisions

Think he'd make a fine Cabinet Member

 

Yeah, real sliding doors moment, if David had the support of the unions it may have been a different world we live in today.

[mattyq]

5 minutes ago, Bruce Spanner said:

 

Yeah, real sliding doors moment, if David had the support of the unions it may have been a different world we live in today.

Possibly

He was tainted with Iraq, though, which was a big problem 

He, almost certainly, would have done a better job than Ed but I didn't like the way he slunk out of British politics... if he'd stayed on he probably would have taken the Leadership before Jeremy

[Bruce Spanner]

13 minutes ago, mattyq said:

Possibly

He was tainted with Iraq, though, which was a big problem 

He, almost certainly, would have done a better job than Ed but I didn't like the way he slunk out of British politics... if he'd stayed on he probably would have taken the Leadership before Jeremy

 

He really did take to the post politics world, didn't he?

 

Wasn't he chairman of Sunderland at one point?

 

The big sliding doors moment for me though is Clegg asking Brown to step aside in return for a coalition, the arrogance of it. But, the world would be a much better place if it had have happened.