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Should Corbyn remain as Labour leader?


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  1. 1. Should Corbyn remain as Labour leader?



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53 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

"If you're someone who promotes anti jew hate. If you're someone who says don't talk to business"

 

Alexei Sayles right. The Labour right is full of some of the most horrible cunts on earth.

 

 

 

 

 

And here's another example..

 

Thinks back...Neil Coyle..ahhh...thats him...suspended for racism..

 

 

 

 

 

 

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40 minutes ago, cloggypop said:

 

 

Socialism 

 

This comment you keep making in response to me responding to Gnasher 'socialism'. I mean, I'm obviously as thick as pigshit and a Tory - these are things I've learned from illiterate liars during my time here - but when I learned about political ideology at university, there was nothing about not giving your view on the values of an individual, especially one that keeps lying about you, insulting you, threatening you, and insulting your family. Thanks for teaching me this lesson. Fine, I'm not a socialist. What now? It's capitalistic to insult people? Fine, none of this is real or bothers me at all. 

 

It's interesting though, you've never picked up anybody else and responded with 'socialism' in response to anything they said. I wonder why that is. Well, I know why it is, I just wonder if you do. 

 

I look forward to a laughing emjoi or a burp or whatever mindless, unthinking drivel is sent in response to this. I was hoping for a sensible response to the point you made about you wanting poor people to pay for rich people's internet. Socialism. 

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8 hours ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

Great news that the EHRC recognise the massive improvements made under Starmer, fixing what was so badly broken under Corbyn. A some what credible organisation. 

 

Might be for you, not so great for him, or doesn't he count?.

 

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14 hours ago, Numero Veinticinco said:


Why is it bad? I support mandatory reselection. The point here is that he won’t make the short list, surely? Again, this isn’t something that bothered them until it’s used against their interest. This cry of ‘democratic freedoms’ is nonsense. 
 

It’s not nuts, it’s obvious and he did it anyway. No amount of bluster will avoid that. 

In what world would Labour Party members in Islington North not select Corbyn? The only thing stopping them is interference from the Leader's Office. 

 

As for the other bit, we'll just have to disagree on the definition of "nuts".

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5 minutes ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

Because MPs should never be allowed to campaign on national issues. Obviously.

 

Some people are scared of decency. Look what happened to Ian Byrne when he brought up food-banks in the commons. Oh shit sorry, food pantries. 

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10 hours ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

Great news that the EHRC recognise the massive improvements made under Starmer, fixing what was so badly broken under Corbyn. A some what credible organisation. 

The EHRC Report recognised the improvements made to the complaints process when a Corbyn ally replaced an anti-Corbyn gobshite as General Secretary.

 

As for Corbyn himself, is the suspension of the whip part of Labour's current handling of anti-Semitism cases? If so, it's obvious that there is interference in that process from the Leader's Office. 

 

It's bullshit to suggest there was a massive problem of anti-Semitism and it's bullshit to suggest that there have been massive improvements.

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29 minutes ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

In what world would Labour Party members in Islington North not select Corbyn? The only thing stopping them is interference from the Leader's Office. 

 

As for the other bit, we'll just have to disagree on the definition of "nuts".


There is no world in which they wouldn’t select Corbyn. I agree with you on that. Not only that but I think they should have to chose him every single time there’s a general election. However.l, under Corbyn they brought in new selection rules surrounding long lists and short lists, they wanted this to have control and force out the centre. It wasn’t a horrific abuse to democracy in their opinion then when they agreed it. It’s only horrific now it’s being used against them. 

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17 minutes ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

It's bullshit to suggest there was a massive problem of anti-Semitism and it's bullshit to suggest that there have been massive improvements.

What I suggested was that what was broken under Corbyn was fixed under Starmer. That’s why special measures have been lifted. That’s just clear from the report and the measures taken since. The broken system that was left unfixed and recommendations ignored by his leadership have now been very thoroughly fixed. That’s a massive improvement. 

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4 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

The broken system that was left unfixed and recommendations ignored by his leadership have now been very thoroughly fixed. That’s a massive improvement. 

That's just bollocks. The ECHR Report acknowledged improvements (when a Corbyn ally became General Secretary).  Far from ignoring the problem, he was specifically censured by the EHRC for getting too involved in it.

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5 minutes ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

That's just bollocks. The ECHR Report acknowledged improvements (when a Corbyn ally became General Secretary).  Far from ignoring the problem, he was specifically censured by the EHRC for getting too involved in it.


A good summary of the report in full.

 

I genuinely find your approach to this utterly bizarre. 

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16 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:


A good summary of the report in full.

 

I genuinely find your approach to this utterly bizarre. 

I find your approach - ignoring the facts and trumpeting the tabloid headlines - disappointing: I thought you weren't that gullible and lazy.

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33 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

What I suggested was that what was broken under Corbyn was fixed under Starmer. That’s why special measures have been lifted. That’s just clear from the report and the measures taken since. The broken system that was left unfixed and recommendations ignored by his leadership have now been very thoroughly fixed. That’s a massive improvement. 

Which recommendations were ignored?

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4 minutes ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

I find your approach - ignoring the facts and trumpeting the tabloid headlines - disappointing: I thought you weren't that gullible and lazy.


Im not ignoring the facts. I’m including them from the report. You’re ignoring the bull of report. It’s because I’m not gullible and I’m not lazy that I’m using the reports to form my view. 

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