Boris Johnson

[skend04]

I don't see how this pact will work. I'm fairly certain if Tories stand aside in some constituencies for the Brexit Party they'll find that a few of their more reasonable voters will cast their votes elsewhere like the Lib Dems. So not only do they not gain seats they'll potentially lose out in their more marginal constituencies.

[magicrat]

6 minutes ago, skend04 said:

I don't see how this pact will work. I'm fairly certain if Tories stand aside in some constituencies for the Brexit Party they'll find that a few of their more reasonable voters will cast their votes elsewhere like the Lib Dems. So not only do they not gain seats they'll potentially lose out in their more marginal constituencies.

It won't happen and is just Farage bigging himself up. There is no way local Tory parties will not field candidates.

If it were tried then Independents would stand. Of all the potential fuck ups this is the least likely

[Captain Howdy]

37 minutes ago, Champions of Europe said:

If we're going to start quoting politicians for their hypocrisy we might run out of server space. 

 

Absolutely, every last one of them are full of shit

[moof]

Time for the wishy washy effete, weather vanes, politically homeless, liberals, the soft left, remainers, etc. to hold their nose and get behind Labour. 

 

Its socialism or barbarism

[Babb'sBurstNad]

Leave Barbara out of this.

[Red Phoenix]

Corbyn should've said to May he was going to celebrate seeing off another Tory leader later on with a few drinks, and what music did she suggest he listen to out of the Beatles, Rolling Stones, or Pantera?

 

Then when she answered saying she didn't know who Pantera was he could've said : "Of course you don't, you massive fucking fraud twat. Get the fuck out."

[Jairzinho]

20 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

Corbyn should've said to May he was going to celebrate seeing off another Tory leader later on with a few drinks, and what music did she suggest he listen to out of the Beatles, Rolling Stones, or Pantera?

 

Then when she answered saying she didn't know who Pantera was he could've said : "Of course you don't, you massive fucking fraud twat. Get the fuck out."

 

"I'm more in to Anal Cunt actually, Jeremy"

[Section_31]

3 hours ago, skend04 said:

I don't see how this pact will work. I'm fairly certain if Tories stand aside in some constituencies for the Brexit Party they'll find that a few of their more reasonable voters will cast their votes elsewhere like the Lib Dems. So not only do they not gain seats they'll potentially lose out in their more marginal constituencies.

It's all bollocks. Farage has tried and failed to be elected lots of times, they'll never get enough votes for a single MP.

 

Their greatest strength for Labour is that they could take some of the Tory vote but that will only happen if Johnson rolls back on no deal.

 

There's definitely going to be an election and it will be Tory no deal vs whatever Corbyn decides to serve up. 

 

I'm hoping he's holding on because he knows his unpopularity is the only thing that might prompt Johnson to call an election, but then after it's called he steps down and Starmer takes his place and campaigns for remain. Labour would win, maybe not outright but a government of some kind of unity could be formed.

[A Red]

If there is a pact it could go along the lines of Farage being US ambassador in return for only fielding Brexit candidates in Labour strongholds with perhaps the promise of a cabinet place should they win, say, 5 seats. Bit reliant on the rewards really only going to Farage though.

[Pureblood]

5 minutes ago, A Red said:

If there is a pact it could go along the lines of Farage being US ambassador in return for only fielding Brexit candidates in Labour strongholds with perhaps the promise of a cabinet place should they win, say, 5 seats. Bit reliant on the rewards really only going to Farage though.

This would make you happy, yeah?

[A Red]

Just now, TK421 said:

This would make you happy, yeah?

Depends on labours manifesto, if i was happy with that I would vote for them.

[rubble-rouser]

He's a furry slug fucker.

[moof]

33 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

 

I'm hoping he's holding on because he knows his unpopularity is the only thing that might prompt Johnson to call an election, but then after it's called he steps down and Starmer takes his place and campaigns for remain. Labour would win, maybe not outright but a government of some kind of unity could be formed.

 

Whats the obsession with starmer? That sounds like a guaranteed vote loser to me 

[Pureblood]

8 minutes ago, A Red said:

Depends on labours manifesto, if i was happy with that I would vote for them.

I don't believe you.

[moof]

Just now, TK421 said:

I don't believe you.

If Labour put out a Tory manifesto he would vote for them

[A Red]

Just now, TK421 said:

I don't believe you.

I have before. 

[magicrat]

2 hours ago, moof said:

Time for the wishy washy effete, weather vanes, politically homeless, liberals, the soft left, remainers, etc. to hold their nose and get behind Labour. 

 

Its socialism or barbarism

It would seem the opposite might happen 

 

New YouGov carried out after Johnson win has the LDs the big gainer Con 25% (-) Lab 19% (-2) Lib Dem 23% (+3) Brexit 17% (-2) Green 9% (+1)

 

[moof]

1 minute ago, magicrat said:

It would seem the opposite might happen 

 

New YouGov carried out after Johnson win has the LDs the big gainer Con 25% (-) Lab 19% (-2) Lib Dem 23% (+3) Brexit 17% (-2) Green 9% (+1)

 

Wouldn’t take yougov particularly seriously, but if that is the case it doesn’t bode well for us 

[magicrat]

2 minutes ago, moof said:

Wouldn’t take yougov particularly seriously, but if that is the case it doesn’t bode well for us 

No their track record is poor.  I hate to say it but Corbyn should hand over the reins. To not be eviscerating the shambles of a government we have is not acceptable even with the shit and misrepresentation he suffers at the hands of the media.  Johnson and his band of crooks have to be defeated at all costs and we are at an existential moment in our history. 

[moof]

4 minutes ago, magicrat said:

No their track record is poor.  I hate to say it but Corbyn should hand over the reins. To not be eviscerating the shambles of a government we have is not acceptable even with the shit and misrepresentation he suffers at the hands of the media.  Johnson and his band of crooks have to be defeated at all costs and we are at an existential moment in our history. 

You don’t defeat the far right in 2019 by a return to normalcy and standards. We need systemic change, any labour leader offering systemic change will get the same push back as Corbyn has received. We need to address the failing capitalist/oligarchic system. A moderate labour leader might be more electable, according to the media and Tory polling companies, but doesn’t actually offer any of what we need to lift civilisation out of the mire. We are at an existential moment in our history. 

[skend04]

25 minutes ago, magicrat said:

It would seem the opposite might happen 

 

New YouGov carried out after Johnson win has the LDs the big gainer Con 25% (-) Lab 19% (-2) Lib Dem 23% (+3) Brexit 17% (-2) Green 9% (+1)

 

Waiting for ardja to interpret this as the country wanting to leave the EU.

[Jairzinho]

I'd happily see Corbyn replaced by someone else on the left. Someone without the baggage. A better orator, a better politician in general. However, the paucity of possible replacements, and the fact that, as moof says, absolutely anyone to the left of Jo Swinson is going to get the "terrorist sympathising communist" routine if they have the temerity to want to see the end of nurses going to foodbanks and us murdering shepherds in the Middle east.

 

If it was someone like Starmer he'd have to convince the membership that he would push for left wing policies. I don't know if he could.

 

The n*rr*tive has to continue to be challenged. We can't allow Rupert Murdoch and his ilk, and in fact the wets at the Guardian, to continue to dictate what is or isn't acceptable politically or economically. 

[johnsusername]

He's going to prove the "doubters, doomsters and gloomsters" wrong.

 

Did someone write that for him I wonder, or did he throw it in off the cuff. 

[Bjornebye]

It just can’t be anyone who disagrees with lies , slander, the dismantling of the NHS and the middle class I’m all right jack attitude. Basically no humanitarians. 

 

Andy Burnham would wipe the floor with all the parties put together 

[Strontium]

15 minutes ago, skend04 said:

Waiting for ardja to interpret this as the country wanting to leave the EU.

 

Waiting for him to say that the Lib Dem share doesn't count because those are pace votes.