Baconface mouthing off again.. what a cunt!

[King Emlyn]

That piece from Winter is a disgrace. I wondered why he had suddenly turned turtle on Benitez, the picture appears to be clearing now.

[sh#t waffle]

That is a really bizarre piece by Winter.

[King Emlyn]

Excellent or not, I didn't read it all, but this bit stood out:

 

 

 

That's something we need to get sorted out. One of the biggest examples of that was Steve Bennett at OT when Mascherano got sent off. That game also had the lead-up of some Ferguson intimidation but Bennett was always the type who stands there and dishes out orders and punishments assuming everyone should just accept it.

 

It's time referees were asked to explain some of their decisions after a game, even if they have to do it via the referee's controller. We all make mistakes, mistakes change games and they aren't always careless mistakes either. But if refs knew they had to explain their big decisions after games they'd either cut out the arrogance or they'd be found out for what they are.

 

I can understand the need during a game to show they are in control, and sometimes maybe that comes over as arrogance. But after a game, especially 24/48 hours after, there's no reason why they can't explain what went on, admit to any mistakes and enforce any message they think managers, players, pundits and us lot are missing.

 

Maybe every manager should be allowed to question three decisions after every game. In fact there's probably a bit of money in it if they also have a "Question from a fan, sponsored by..."

I don't agree with that tbh. The referee is the referee, his word goes, end of; it's accepted in just about every other sport in the world bar football and possibly tennis. Rugby and Cricket show the way forward in relation to officiladom. Official makes a decision be it correct or otherwise and you just get on with the game, they DO even themselves out. This culture of "question everything" only leads to chaos and intimidation imo, something Ferguson has recognised and utilised to great effect throughout his whole career.

[zigackly]

I see he's now got his pet gimp to fire in, since evidently it wouldn't make any fucking difference to anyone if he got banned:

 

Neville wades into referee debate

 

Manchester United defender Gary Neville has waded into the debate over the standard of refereeing by calling for the creation of an elite referee pool.

 

"They should use a few elite officials in the big games instead of trying to give all referees experience," Neville was quoted as telling The Times.

 

"Their decision-making doesn't seem to be great in the big moments," he added.

 

His comments come just days after Sir Alex Ferguson was given a two-game ban for his comments about ref Alan Wiley.

 

The Football Association handed the 67-year-old Ferguson a four-game ban, with two of those suspended until the end of the 2010/11 season.

 

Ferguson was fined £20,000 and warned about his future conduct following his disparaging remarks about Wiley's fitness after United's 2-2 draw with Sunderland on 3 October.

 

"Italian referee Pierluigi Collina always used to get the big Champions League matches because he rarely made mistakes," added United captain Neville.

 

"They should make it like that in England.

 

"These big games shouldn't be about giving refs experience. They should have to earn it. The best players play for the big clubs and the best commentators commentate on the big games. That's how it should be with refs."

 

After United's recent 1-0 defeat by Chelsea, Ferguson said he and his players were losing "faith in refereeing" after the London club won with a disputed goal.

 

"I don't think it was a foul by Darren Fletcher which led to the free kick," said Neville echoing his manager's sentiments over Chelsea's winner.

 

"I don't want to say we've been hard done by this season because every team has their complaints, and I don't want to jump on referees' backs because they are under a lot of pressure," added Neville.

 

Nevertheless, I expect the big decisions in the big matches to be correct, which is not happening at the moment."

 

The referees' union Prospect was "disappointed" at the two-match ban and fine meted out to Ferguson, believing the authorities had missed an opportunity to make a statement to back up the FA's Respect campaign.

[RedinSweden]

There is an elite pool of referees, you fucking weasel faced dullard.

[dirty_sanchez]

That's a terrible article from Winter, especially this bit:

 

This is the club boss who could supply more than half of England's starting XI in Ben Foster, Wes Brown, Rio Ferdinand, Michael Carrick, Owen Hargreaves and Rooney, let alone cultivating Ravel Morrison as a potential gem for 2014.

 

"Woo, United have six English players! If we win the World Cup, it's all thanks to Alex Ferguson!"

 

Although Ferdinand is playing like a vadge mouth thalidomide, Hargreaves has been crocked for two years, Ben Foster couldn't catch AIDS at Elton John's birthday party, Michael Carrick is Capello's 90th choice for central midfield, and Wes Brown is orange, but besides that, good points Henry.

[Fugitive]

Did you hear that the British Post Office has just recalled their latest stamps?

 

They had photos of Manchester United players on them and people couldn't figure out which side to spit on.

[silverlining]

That's a terrible article from Winter, especially this bit:

 

 

 

"Woo, United have six English players! If we win the World Cup, it's all thanks to Alex Ferguson!"

 

Although Ferdinand is playing like a vadge mouth thalidomide, Hargreaves has been crocked for two years, Ben Foster couldn't catch AIDS at Elton John's birthday party, Michael Carrick is Capello's 90th choice for central midfield, and Wes Brown is orange, but besides that, good points Henry.

 

Incredible.

 

Foster, Brown, Carrick, Hargreaves et al have no fucking chance of starting any games in SA, barring lots of injuries

[dave u]

Who the fuck is Ravel Morrison????

[Unrighteous]

Who the fuck is Ravel Morrison????

 

Who the fuck cares? Did you hear about their latest English gem?! He's fit to be born in a year or two and will be so good he'll be like having TWO Maradonas!

[dirty_sanchez]

Who the fuck is Ravel Morrison????

 

Poor man's Amoo.

[Manny]

No doubt an elite panel of 9 referees, so he can put them all on speed dial.

[RedinSweden]

That's a terrible article from Winter, especially this bit:

 

This is the club boss who could supply more than half of England's starting XI in Ben Foster, Wes Brown, Rio Ferdinand, Michael Carrick, Owen Hargreaves and Rooney, let alone cultivating Ravel Morrison as a potential gem for 2014.

 

 

"Woo, United have six English players! If we win the World Cup, it's all thanks to Alex Ferguson!"

 

 

Ben Foster - Shit

Wes Brown - Orange and shit

Rio Ferdinand - 30 million

Michael Carrick - 16 million

Owen Hargreaves - 18 million

Wayne Rooney - 25 million

 

Nice cultivation.

[Manny]

Seems like the FA have retreated still further back up his arse:

 

BBC Sport - Football - Ferguson handed Everton reprieve

Ferguson handed Everton reprieve

 

Sir Alex Ferguson will be in the dugout for Manchester United's Premier League clash with Everton on Saturday despite been hit with a two-match suspension.

 

United's boss was punished for comments on referee Alan Wiley's fitness after a 2-2 draw with Sunderland in October.

 

But the Football Association said that the ban does not start until 14 days after last week's disciplinary hearing.

 

Ferguson will sit in the stands at Portsmouth on 28 November and again for the Carling Cup tie with Tottenham.

 

The FA handed the 67-year-old a four-game ban, with two of those suspended until the end of the 2010/11 season, a £20,000 fine and warned him about his future conduct.

 

Ferguson made disparaging remarks about Wiley's fitness after his side were held to a draw at home by the Black Cats on 3 October.

 

Ferguson said at the time: "The pace of the game demanded a referee who was fit. He was not fit."

 

He later said he was sorry for any personal embarrassment caused to Wiley, claiming the comments were to highlight "what I believe to be a serious and important issue in the game".

 

The suspended sanction will be automatically activated should he be found guilty of a similar charge before the end of the 2010/11 season on top of any penalty imposed for that offence.

 

Ferguson has a history of improper conduct charges for incidents involving referees.

 

In the 2007/08 season he was given a two-match touchline ban and fined £5,000 for a rant at referee Mark Clattenburg during a match at Bolton.

 

And during the last campaign he was banned for two games and fined £10,000 after remonstrating with referee Mike Dean after a match against Hull.

 

So despite all his previous, he's missing a tie against the bottom club and a cup tie when he'd be fielding his reserves anyway. I fucking hope the referee's union do something because it's obvious the FA won't. Christ they're inept.

[Dan Vito Corleone]

Like the shite were ever going to do anything other than bend over and touch their toes anyway.

[dirty_sanchez]

That's a fucking joke.

[Chinandeler Bong]

The FA are pointless, Without conviction and lacking in moral fibre.

[Anubis]

Did we expect anything else from the FA? I mean, seriously?

[Unrighteous]

"Hello? FA? This is your Overlord. Look, I know Everton are shite, but being banned from that match just won't do. Give me Portsmouth and a cup tie, ta. Yeah, I know. This aught to shut all those scousers up! Me? Preferable treatment? Ha! Oh, while I've got you on the line, about those referees..."

[Anubis]

Actually, thinking about it I suppose it's unfair to expect him to sit on a bench when he is expected to oversee a game involving Manchester United West.

[Manny]

That article names two incidents from the previous two seasons, but the punishment always remains the same: 2 matches on the touchline and a fine that's inconsequential given the money he must earn. I suppose the fine gets bigger every year. Maybe by 2015 he might give up a week's salary to go with his routine ban. Drunken old cunt.