Other Football 2021/22

[Vincent Vega]

11 hours ago, Bjornebye said:

Villa fan there with a "Still Hate Thatcher" t-shirt on haha go on son 

 

[El Rojo]

15 hours ago, manwiththestick said:

Everyone expects they will beat Brentford so i don't think too much doom and gloom, it's when they play a Chelsea, Spurs or Utd and they just swat them aside like a cat playing with a mouse that most people get pissed off.

 

I expect Brentford will have a go but be too open and get picked off. 3-1 to the cheats.

You weren't far wrong! Agree that the 'bigger' sides have been pathetic against them this season. Arsenal had a go and were very unlucky, but the rest have been awful. With the race for fourth (as grim as it is) now in full flow, hopefully teams will stand up to them more. I'd still have more faith in Burnley, Wolves or Villa taking something off them than Spurs or Man United. 

[DaveT]

48 minutes ago, El Rojo said:

You weren't far wrong! Agree that the 'bigger' sides have been pathetic against them this season. Arsenal had a go and were very unlucky, but the rest have been awful. With the race for fourth (as grim as it is) now in full flow, hopefully teams will stand up to them more. I'd still have more faith in Burnley, Wolves or Villa taking something off them than Spurs or Man United. 

Just saw the Sterling penalty and, once again, I wonder how footballers can be so stupid. Anyone who's ever seen Sterling knows he's just waiting for a tackle so he can go to ground. The predictable happens, he gets his body across and, in the modern vernacular 'draws the foul'. All the guy has to do is stay on his feet - Sterling's running at near full pelt - he can't cross for toffee with his left foot, so no danger there. Otherwise he tries to stop and come back on his right - you've still got him pinned against the touchline. But, no, dive in, penalty given, game plan fucked, game over.

[dockers_strike]

Shaqiri signs for Chicago Fire for £6m. There are worse things in life than being an LFC squad player, Shaq!

[No2]

I'm agreeing with Peter Walton on BT, I need a lie down.

[Elite]

9 hours ago, dockers_strike said:

Shaqiri signs for Chicago Fire for £6m. There are worse things in life than being an LFC squad player, Shaq!

He's had such a strange career.

[Babb'sBurstNad]

2 minutes ago, No2 said:

I'm agreeing with Peter Walton on BT, I need a lie down.

Same. Bit worrying, but then Savage disagrees, so for once one of them has to be right.

[No2]

9 hours ago, dockers_strike said:

Shaqiri signs for Chicago Fire for £6m. There are worse things in life than being an LFC squad player, Shaq!

Matip's assist tonight was tribute to Shaqs against West Ham.

[Bjornebye]

12 minutes ago, No2 said:

I'm agreeing with Peter Walton on BT, I need a lie down.

At first I thought the ref had been harsh but Walton spoke sense. FFS

[No2]

11 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

At first I thought the ref had been harsh but Walton spoke sense. FFS

The three lads in the studio were dopes, if it wasn't a promising attack then why he did foul him?

[Josef Svejk]

Savage trying to bully Walton made that pretty unpleasant viewing, I thought.

[Josef Svejk]

8 hours ago, No2 said:

The three lads in the studio were dopes, if it wasn't a promising attack then why he did foul him?

Ferdinand obviously couldn't understand distinction between a clear goalscoring opportunity and a promising attack. Guy was given second yellow related to latter not a red related to former, as Walton clearly explained. But why let that get that get in the way of a pile-in on the ref? 

 

Savage and Ferdinand revisiting their glory days of referee abuse.

[aws]

1 hour ago, Josef Svejk said:

Savage trying to bully Walton made that pretty unpleasant viewing, I thought.

In a battle of wits, Savage is always unarmed. 

[Josef Svejk]

2 minutes ago, aws said:

In a battle of wits, Savage is always unarmed. 

Walton would probably deck him, but was located elsewhere. Even still, you could see Savage looking to Ferdinand for approval. He's the classic dumb sidekick... 

[Anubis]

I see Arsenal are smelling themselves again after scraping a win over Wolves. 

[J-V]

32 minutes ago, Anubis said:

I see Arsenal are smelling themselves again after scraping a win over Wolves. 

Those sad cunts are still dribbling on about  how good they were despite losing to City last time they played each other.

[Manny]

7 hours ago, Josef Svejk said:

Ferdinand obviously couldn't understand distinction between a clear goalscoring opportunity and a promising attack. Guy was given second yellow related to latter not a red related to former, as Walton clearly explained. But why let that get that get in the way of a pile-in on the ref? 

 

Savage and Ferdinand revisiting their glory days of referee abuse.

Yeah I watched it as well and I was baffled, they kept going on about him "having to be like Maradona to score from there." It wasn't a straight red FFS so there's no "clear goalscoring opportunity" to discuss here, but he barged a player over who was running into clear space on the right flank with no intent to win the ball, I'd expect a yellow there 9 times out of 10 at least.

 

You can argue he's unlucky in that he doesn't know he's on a booking when he commits the second offence but it's all so utterly brainless I find it difficult to find any sympathy. Arsenal have a discipline problem though, and it's definitely cultural - their fans are becoming convinced that there's some sort of anti-Arsenal bias because of all the red cards(!), and I reckon an element of that is creeping into the dressing room in a "what can you do when the bastards are against you" kind of sense as Arteta is a paranoid bastard; hard not to be after spending any amount of time playing at the pit.

 

They're definitely smelling themselves again though, not realising that they're just slightly more consistent than a couple of other really inconsistent teams as they've had more continuity in manager and playing staff. Tallest gnome shit though.

[dockers_strike]

Havent seen this incident with Martinelli but, it seems bizarre a ref suddenly decides two succesive fouls in a very short space of time warrants 2 yellows?! First time Ive ever come across that. I think a bit of martinelli's reputation with recent red cards came to play here.

 

As Ive said, havent seen the incident but, if all refs are going to do this now, it will be yet another low in the standards of refereeing.

[TD_LFC]

32 minutes ago, dockers_strike said:

Havent seen this incident with Martinelli but, it seems bizarre a ref suddenly decides two succesive fouls in a very short space of time warrants 2 yellows?! First time Ive ever come across that. I think a bit of martinelli's reputation with recent red cards came to play here.

 

As Ive said, havent seen the incident but, if all refs are going to do this now, it will be yet another low in the standards of refereeing.

First was raised hands trying to stop a throw, the second he chased the player down and it was a cynical foul.

 

If he'd have got two yellows two minutes apart nobody could have any complaints so not sure why they do now beyond some weird 'the first yellow is a warning' comment.

 

 

[Anubis]

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[dockers_strike]

10 minutes ago, TD_LFC said:

First was raised hands trying to stop a throw, the second he chased the player down and it was a cynical foul.

 

If he'd have got two yellows two minutes apart nobody could have any complaints so not sure why they do now beyond some weird 'the first yellow is a warning' comment.

 

 

I agree if he gets 2 yellows for separate incidents like he did against city, there's not such an issue. I find it hard to believe though that in all of football, refs have previously sent players off for 2 fouls in a sequence of play after the ref has played advantage?

 

In other words, this incident seems a first and made up on the spot plus, taking the player's recent double yellow he's picked up.

 

Fair enough if PGMOL puts down a marker and say effective now, if you do this you'll get 2 yellows but they havent. Does this happen anywhere else?

 

To be honest, that 2nd looks a piss poor decision to me.

[Boss]

That was never a red card. The second offence is a yellow and technically he should get away with the first offence because it's in the same phase of play. You can't send a player off for a yellow card offence if he doesn't know he's on a yellow. 

[Babb'sBurstNad]

I think the ref got it spot on. Two yellow card offences.

 

Sick of refs getting praised for "letting the game flow". No, just enforce the rules of the game. Don't let players have a free yellow card challenge, don't keep your cards in your pocket because it's early in the game, don't bottle sending someone off. If the offence warrants it, card them.

 

Martinelli expected the norms of the game to supercede the written law there, namely that he was already getting a yellow so effectively would get a free hit. His mistake, not the ref's.

[KMD7]

Definite 2 yellows for me.

[TD_LFC]

39 minutes ago, Boss said:

You can't send a player off for a yellow card offence if he doesn't know he's on a yellow. 

Why?