Quantcast
Peter Shilton - Page 3 - FF - Football Forum - The Liverpool Way Jump to content
Carvalho Diablo

Peter Shilton

Recommended Posts

20 minutes ago, Colonel Bumcunt said:

England didn't deserve to beat Argentina. The way the handball is moaned about by many boomers seems to suggest that England were on the cusp of winning the game and the finals.

Once again, it's history being rewritten by disgusting, flag-licking tabloid reptiles of the time, and their words dripping into the minds of the weak who parrot them down the years until they are embedded in the national psyche. 

 

The English never got to grips with it at all, it was far too close to the Falklands.  In truth, the Falklands War was a skirmish where we got to throw some big punches against a weak opponent.  However, the tabloids whipped the country into a nationalistic frenzy following the war which by 1986 was still going strong. 

 

The England World Cup team was the pride of the fleet, and it was sunk by the 'cheating Argies'.

 

 

Disagree, I remember the competition and the game very well. England started the competition poorly but they were getting better with every game. The game against Argentina was very even and then they went two up, England came back strongly and pulled one back,  Barnes transformed the game and was tearing them apart, Argentina were clinging on for dear life and the whistle couldn’t come quickly enough for them. Don’t let your hatred of England let you rewrite history.

  • Upvote 3

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 minute ago, Harry's Lad said:

There,s a program just about to start on BBC2 about the 1986 World Cup.

An in depth look, starting now.

That's Hero. THE best football documentary ever.

  • Upvote 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
11 hours ago, Captain Howdy said:

Disagree, I remember the competition and the game very well. England started the competition poorly but they were getting better with every game. The game against Argentina was very even and then they went two up, England came back strongly and pulled one back,  Barnes transformed the game and was tearing them apart, Argentina were clinging on for dear life and the whistle couldn’t come quickly enough for them. Don’t let your hatred of England let you rewrite history.

Explain 1988 and 1990 then?

 

England weren't close to anything in 86, all their best players were young lads who would bloom in the next couple of years (Waddle, Barnes, Beardsley, Lineker) with Hoddle, Reid and Robson as the 'stars' in their prime.  They were dogshit compared to Zico, Platini, Maradona, etc and avoided all the big teams apart from Argentina. 

  • Upvote 1
  • Downvote 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
53 minutes ago, Colonel Bumcunt said:

Explain 1988 and 1990 then?

 

England weren't close to anything in 86, all their best players were young lads who would bloom in the next couple of years (Waddle, Barnes, Beardsley, Lineker) with Hoddle, Reid and Robson as the 'stars' in their prime.  They were dogshit compared to Zico, Platini, Maradona, etc and avoided all the big teams apart from Argentina. 

Lineker bloom later? He won the golden boot and Beardsley was a sensation, I’m not saying they would have won it I’m saying they were in with a good chance and they were. Reid also had a great tournament, as did Hodge

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
8 minutes ago, Captain Howdy said:

Linekar bloom later? He won the golden boot and Beardsley was a sensation, I’m not saying they would have won it I’m saying they were in with a good chance and they were. Reid also had a great tournament, as did Hodge

Gary Lineker was the 85/86 First Division top goalscorer with 30 goals, and scored 38 in all competitions.

  • Upvote 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, Trojan1892 said:

Dunno why some of these ex pro’s are such bitter arrogant pricks, Shilton is an absolute nobhead as is Geoff Hurst, what a horrible cunt he is.

I think it comes down to jealousy that they didn’t make the fortunes out of the game that current players do.

  • Upvote 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
4 minutes ago, Geoff Woade said:

I think it comes down to jealousy that they didn’t make the fortunes out of the game that current players do.

That’s it exactly. The irony is that they make more from their lazy, wrongheaded analysis than they ever did from playing.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, Trojan1892 said:

Dunno why some of these ex pro’s are such bitter arrogant pricks, Shilton is an absolute nobhead as is Geoff Hurst, what a horrible cunt he is.

Hurst does come across as a prick. It's mental that Hurst is considered an all-time great and has even been knighted, all because of that hat-trick. His club career was average at best. All the drinking and missing the '66 World Cup final has tainted Jimmy Greaves' legacy who was levels above Hurst and every other England striker since.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 29/11/2020 at 00:55, Captain Howdy said:

Disagree, I remember the competition and the game very well. England started the competition poorly but they were getting better with every game. The game against Argentina was very even and then they went two up, England came back strongly and pulled one back,  Barnes transformed the game and was tearing them apart, Argentina were clinging on for dear life and the whistle couldn’t come quickly enough for them. Don’t let your hatred of England let you rewrite history.

You forgot how they almost didn't get out of their group of minnows and needed to beat Poland in their last group game to scrape through. Captain 'unreliable' also got injured again. England were a decent attacking force after a slow start but their GK and defence were below standard and the midfield was simply too slow. England were going out anyway in the same way they have done in every tournament since and with one notable exception,before.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
10 minutes ago, VladimirIlyich said:

You forgot how they almost didn't get out of their group of minnows and needed to beat Poland in their last group game to scrape through. Captain 'unreliable' also got injured again. England were a decent attacking force after a slow start but their GK and defence were below standard and the midfield was simply too slow. England were going out anyway in the same way they have done in every tournament since and with one notable exception,before.

Everything I posted was accurate, I’m not really bothered about England one way or the other to be honest so not really arsed, you just hate them so debating with you would be like debating an Evertonian, utterly pointless.

  • Upvote 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 28/11/2020 at 05:57, General Dryness said:

He might be the antithesis of your political views, but holding him responsible for having the ball punched over his head is a really fucking rum do. I would suggest you watch the incident again, as its clearly down to the defence completely losing Maradona.

 

For the record, I have no love for Shilton and would far rather Clem had earned loads more caps at his expense. But retconning history because you don't like someone is a cunts trick.

 

 

I don’t agree, he hardly jumped, that was poor. He looked over weight, too much sausage and mash ?

  • Upvote 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I use to do an impression of Shiton when I was a kid, in friendlies when I played in goal occasionally. I would take a back pass, make a big meal of it and roll around. My team got it obviously, the other not so much.

  • Upvote 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
12 minutes ago, El Rojo said:

England would have done better in the penalty shoot-out against West Germany in 1990 with no goalkeeper. 

Shilton was way past his best by 1990. When you look at that shootout again, he doesn’t move very well at all. That being said, I don’t think any of the West Germany penalties were savable. 
 

But some of the revisionism about Shilton being overrated in his prime is daft. He might be a Brexit knobhead but he was outstanding for most of his career. 

  • Upvote 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
10 hours ago, Captain Howdy said:

Everything I posted was accurate, I’m not really bothered about England one way or the other to be honest so not really arsed, you just hate them so debating with you would be like debating an Evertonian, utterly pointless.

What a stupid thing to say. I havent always hated England and Beardsley and Barnes were players I like before we even signed them,Lineker too. I even had time for the likes of Steve Hodge but its pathetic to believe England were going to do much in that tournament as they struggled to get past Poland and Paraguay,and an erratic German side still made the final. Four years later the same two teams made the final again and England really had a chance then,not 86 though.

PS,this is all true too,in my opinion just like yours is opinion. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
10 minutes ago, VladimirIlyich said:

What a stupid thing to say. I havent always hated England and Beardsley and Barnes were players I like before we even signed them,Lineker too. I even had time for the likes of Steve Hodge but its pathetic to believe England were going to do much in that tournament as they struggled to get past Poland and Paraguay,and an erratic German side still made the final. Four years later the same two teams made the final again and England really had a chance then,not 86 though.

PS,this is all true too,in my opinion just like yours is opinion. 

England were nip and tuck with Argentina in the quarters, the same Argentina who then played Belgium in the semis and then a not great Germany in the final, England were getting better with every game with players who were growing into the tournament, on what fucking planet did they not have a chance?

  • Upvote 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Just now, Captain Howdy said:

England were nip and tuck with Argentina in the quarters, the same Argentina who then played Belgium in the semis and then a not great Germany in the final, England were getting better with every game with players who were growing into the tournament, on what fucking planet did they not have a chance?

The planet where they lost to Argentina?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

It’s a long time ago, but 86 England was better than 90 England,who were outplayed by Cameroon.

 

WC 90 was poor, especially compared to 86. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 29/11/2020 at 13:49, Baltar said:

Hurst does come across as a prick. It's mental that Hurst is considered an all-time great and has even been knighted, all because of that hat-trick. His club career was average at best. All the drinking and missing the '66 World Cup final has tainted Jimmy Greaves' legacy who was levels above Hurst and every other England striker since.

He was a fucking arsehole, got way above his station...

I was staying in a hotel with a few lads and he happened to be there as a guest speaker, they had a auction and numerous things he was just a complete nobhead.

The next day I was in the bookies putting a bet on and Frank Worthington was in there and he was a sound, the complete opposite to Hurst, I just don’t get why they’ve got to act like that.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

×