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Should the UK remain a member of the EU


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  1. 1. Should the UK remain a member of the EU

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4 hours ago, Gnasher said:

Most carpenters have received an approx 20 - 30 % wage increase since last spring. Obviously world events have taken over. 

 

We wouldn't even be discussing working class wages if not for Brexit. The bottom 20-30% suffered twenty years of wage stagnation, they didn't even enter the conversation. 

 

I'm not sure we'd see this Union rebirth if not for Brexit. Workers have finally found their voice again. 

Construction workers got a pay rise (well, a real-terms pay cut) that was about half of what their unions wanted.

https://www.gmb.org.uk/news/construction-workers-protest-over-derisory-pay-offer

 

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16 minutes ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

Construction workers got a pay rise (well, a real-terms pay cut) that was about half of what their unions wanted.

https://www.gmb.org.uk/news/construction-workers-protest-over-derisory-pay-offer

 

I told you in a post above they got a 5% increase Angry, same as nurses, though unlike nurses construction workers had a large rise the year before.

 

Construction workers in general are doing fine out of Brexit Angry. Someone very close to me runs an employment agency covering construction in the S. West. Another family member owns a large (ish) construction company. Carpenters are in short supply, they are earning good money, believe me. Obviously inflation has hit everyone these past few months.

 

5th 6th paragraph down, they've had some very good years wage wise Angry.

 

https://buildsafe.co.uk/the-impact-of-brexit-on-the-construction-industry/

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Again, you're putting all your faith in the theories of market forces: that as supply (in this case, labour) reduces prices (i.e. wages) will increase. In reality, supply & demand are far from the biggest influence on wages. The biggest influence has always been the relative power of employers and employees - and "the whole point of Brexit" is to shift that balance in favour of the bosses. 

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On 06/08/2022 at 10:25, Jack the Sipper said:

 

And crowns on pint glasses. And new signage in the Dartford Tunnel.

 

In another five years time we've might have enough Brexit benefits to compile our own 'What have the Roman's ever done for us?' style list, albeit a really really shit one.

Bringing back these type of pint glasses as far as I'm concerned is the only real benefit of Brexit. 

 

pint-and-half-pint-glasses-with-crown.jp

 

I can't stand the branded vases they serve you nowadays. 

 

 

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1 minute ago, Mudface said:

Out of the mouths of babes-

 

 

Works well and could be expanded-

 

"Derek went bankrupt after making a complete Brexit of his finances."

 

"The state of that fucking Brexit over there in the Lonsdales."

 

"Don't be a Brexit, dear."

I was playing fifa with my boy last night and heard 'absolute Brexit tackle' for the first time. I somewhat enjoyed it. 

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15 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

Hahahaha sums up the typical Brexiteer mentality. 

 

"The beach is full of shit!"

 

"Aye but it's British shit, none of that foreign turd" 

 

 

 

 

 

 

One of these -Brexiteers' is all over the TV and radio today, fighting for workers rights, and I don't mean Dan Hodges. 

 

 

 

 

The reason sewage is being pumped into our rivers and beeches is because we are the only country in the world who thought it a good idea to put water in private hands.

 

The shareholders have made approx 2 billion every year since 1991. Nice of you to present them with a ready excuse and a get out of jail card though.

 

Here's another Brexiteer 

 

 

 

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47 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

 

One of these -Brexiteers' is all over the TV and radio today, fighting for workers rights, and I don't mean Dan Hodges. 

 

 

 

 

The reason sewage is being pumped into our rivers and beeches is because we are the only country in the world who thought it a good idea to put water in private hands.

 

The shareholders have made approx 2 billion every year since 1991. Nice of you to present them with a ready excuse and a get out of jail card though.

 

Here's another Brexiteer 

 

 

 

The bottom line is that the whole point of Brexit was to effect more privatisation, less regulation of corporations, poorer public services and reduced rights for workers.  Anyone who fell for the "Lexit" delusion forgot to take account of the political reality of a Tory Government. 

 

And here we are.

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3 hours ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

I despise Brexiteers. Absolute twats. 

Mentioned this before but I watched a programme a while ago and there was this clip of this old fella on brexit day in tears,saying we got our country back.

I don't know but it's always stayed with that clip.

Maybe it just reinforces the fact that they pushed a complete lie and so many people fell for it.

 

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4 minutes ago, Arniepie said:

Mentioned this before but I watched a programme a while ago and there was this clip of this old fella on brexit day in tears,saying we got our country back.

I don't know but it's always stayed with that clip.

Maybe it just reinforces the fact that they pushed a complete lie and so many people fell for it.

 

Yeah there was a Northern fella (Barnsley I think) on the news on the same day pointing at kebab houses saying "I can't wait to see all these gone" even the reporter had to tell him that Brexit didn't mean we are all of a sudden kicking people out. Thick as pigshit. 

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4 minutes ago, Arniepie said:

Mentioned this before but I watched a programme a while ago and there was this clip of this old fella on brexit day in tears,saying we got our country back.

I don't know but it's always stayed with that clip.

Maybe it just reinforces the fact that they pushed a complete lie and so many people fell for it.

So many stupid people and bigots and grifters. 

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23 minutes ago, Arniepie said:

Mentioned this before but I watched a programme a while ago and there was this clip of this old fella on brexit day in tears,saying we got our country back.

I don't know but it's always stayed with that clip.

Maybe it just reinforces the fact that they pushed a complete lie and so many people fell for it.

 

Yeah, that’s the way I feel too. I’m angry, yes, I’m actually a bit embarrassed.

 

17 minutes ago, Mudface said:

So many stupid people and bigots and grifters. 

Yep, and quite often some of the stupid people - or not stupid, but just ignorant of the facts - are the victims of the grifters like Farage and the bigots from ERG. It’s a real sad state of affairs. 
 

And on Labour and Starmer on this, he’s getting flack for being a ‘hard brexiteer’ from some, which is crazy, because he’s not willing to commit to SM or CU - in fact he ruled it out - and it’s by grifters on the other end of the scale. He can’t really, not without a lot of pain, not without opening himself up to serious questions from the Tories which will let them win on Brexit again, I hate it, I really do, but he surely has this right. Even if he did want to join a a single market/Customs union, they’d be able to get all sorts out of us, including dropping the pound most likely. 
 

This is all fucked. Brexit’s impact on British life has been so fucking extreme. 

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8 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

Yeah, that’s the way I feel too. I’m angry, yes, I’m actually a bit embarrassed.

 

Yep, and quite often some of the stupid people - or not stupid, but just ignorant of the facts - are the victims of the grifters like Farage and the bigots from ERG. It’s a real sad state of affairs. 
 

And on Labour and Starmer on this, he’s getting flack for being a ‘hard brexiteer’ from some, which is crazy, because he’s not willing to commit to SM or CU - in fact he ruled it out - and it’s by grifters on the other end of the scale. He can’t really, not without a lot of pain, not without opening himself up to serious questions from the Tories which will let them win on Brexit again, I hate it, I really do, but he surely has this right. Even if he did want to join a a single market/Customs union, they’d be able to get all sorts out of us, including dropping the pound most likely. 
 

This is all fucked. Brexit’s impact on British life has been so fucking extreme. 

Get in, get back in the customs' union, get re-elected. Fuck them, the Tories have been lying through their arses on what they'd do in government and on Brexit, about time the same tactics were employed. An advisory vote 6 years ago that was narrowly won should not dictate how future governments should act.

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