Gerrard: I would leave Anfield

[Paco]

Reading about Billy Liddell earlier. he only won one league title and was runner up in fa cup final in 23 years at Liverpool. His career ended as Shankly took over.

 

Is Gerrard a modern day Liddell?

[Jairzinho]

Gerrard has won 10 trophies with the club. Liddell played a third of his career in the second division.

[Frankenhooker]

Reading about Billy Liddell earlier. he only won one league title and was runner up in fa cup final in 23 years at Liverpool. His career ended as Shankly took over.

 

Is Gerrard a modern day Liddell?

Not really, barring a title medal, Gerrard has a pretty decent haul. Granted, he could of had a better one if he had left, but he has everything but a league medal.

 

[ritchie]

If he'd won the title he very much should have done given the positions we've been in, then he'd have won the full set.

 

Instead he's being labelled as some kind of Le Tissier/Shearer figure who wasted his club career.

[Section_31]

Nobody who's won the Champions League has wasted their career. It's the pinnacle of club football, end of. When we won it only the mancs had won it and they'd been trying since Reebok Classics were in fashion. How many English players have won, or will ever win, the CL? Nah, lad did good.

[Spy Bee]

Not really, barring a title medal, Gerrard has a pretty decent haul. Granted, he could of had a better one if he had left, but he has everything but a league medal.

If you do that on Twitter you get an automatically generated tweet telling you your grammar is shit! 

[TheFridge]

Only player to ever score in FA Cup, League Cup, UEFA Cup and European Cup finals.

 

Pretty special feat that one, we won them all too when he scored.

[Frankenhooker]

If you do that on Twitter you get an automatically generated tweet telling you your grammar is shit!

Yeah, cheers for that, it might be important if I decide to open a Twitter account or give a shit.

 

[Tony Moanero]

If he'd won the title he very much should have done given the positions we've been in, then he'd have won the full set.

 

Instead he's being labelled as some kind of Le Tissier/Shearer figure who wasted his club career.

I've never heard anyone say that about him.

[Delmar]

We'll win the league again when the players who know nothing about our teams that used to win, way back when, are the main men.  On their own, not caring about the past.  Just wanting to win.

[Paco]

Steven Gerrard has urged his Liverpool team-mates to “roll up your sleeves and fight for the club” as the side attempt to inject some momentum into their Premier League campaign with a morale-boosting victory over Arsenal on Sunday.

 

The former England captain was encouraged by the team’s display in their League Cup quarter-final win at Bournemouth on Wednesday, only their third victory in 11 games in all competitions and a timely result given last Sunday’s 3-0 loss at Manchester United, but will demand standards are maintained when league duties resume at Anfield.

 

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Brendan Rodgers’s side have won only twice in eight top-flight games and languish in the lower half of the table, 18 points from the summit, prompting Gerrard’s rallying cry in the belief the team can still instigate a revival.

 

“It’s been tough of late, I can’t deny that,” said the midfielder. “It’s been a bit of a rollercoaster so to get a good win at Bournemouth is a big lift and a lift that is very welcome. We did well as an attacking unit at Old Trafford. The difference was we made mistakes there and got punished by world-class players. At Bournemouth we cut the mistakes out and the first half was a very pleasing performance, probably as close as we’ve come to last season’s standards. But we need to keep going, keep winning.

 

“We have a tough game at the weekend against Arsenal and then we have a run of fixtures which are a bit more kind to us. If we can get a big result against Arsenal and build on this, we can turn it around. It’s been very hard. I’ve experienced it a few times during my career at Liverpool when it gets tough under certain managers and, from the outside, people are trying to kill you. It’s normal. We’re at a big club, we’ve got to take that responsibility.

 

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“We can’t have players hiding and feeling sorry for ourselves. Everyone knows if we perform back to how we have done of late against Arsenal we’ll get beat. We need men out there and, on Wednesday, I thought we all turned up. That’s why the result came.”

 

Gerrard has spoken to his club-mates, both collectively and individually, to remind them of their responsibilities in the hope they can recover from elimination from the Champions League and their sloppy opening to the domestic campaign. “But if you’re sitting in that dressing room and you don’t know that the performance levels haven’t been good enough of late, you’re at the wrong place,” he said.

 

Last season’s home game against Arsenal had summed up all that was good about this team at the time – a blistering start, inspired by Daniel Sturridge and Luis Suárez, which blew the visitors away early on – with a reshaped line-up now hoping to produce a similar performance.

 

“We won that game in the first 20 minutes but when you have a strike force of Daniel Sturridge and Luis Suárez, they are capable of killing teams in 20 minutes,” said Gerrard. “It’s different this year and everyone knows that. I think they provided 60-70% of our goals, those two. You take them out of any team in the world and it’s going to be tough, and it has been. But I think this is where you find out what kind of players you’ve got in the dressing room. It’s time to roll your sleeves up and fight for the club and try to put it right as soon as possible and that’s what we’re trying to do.”

 

There has been pressure, too, on Rodgers with the team’s major summer purchases having struggled to make a positive impact and spluttering form eroding a reputation forged on last season’s startling success. The manager has had to cope with the added pressures of European football as well as raised expectations but while there is empathy from his senior players, there is also an acceptance that criticism is inevitable.

 

“It comes with the territory,” added Gerrard. “There was a stage where a couple of my performances were under par and I got a bit of stick. It’s normal. I’ve got to accept it being captain of the club, and he’s got to accept it being the manager of Liverpool. If results don’t go well, questions are going to be asked, criticism is going to fly, you take it on the chin and try to improve things. That’s the only way.

 

“I know when I don’t play well. Every individual does here. But I think, collectively, it has been tough. It’s been tough to perform because we haven’t played well as a team and so there have been tough days of late. But if we keep fighting, keep performing, roll our sleeves up, keep giving everything we’ve got, I’m sure the good days are not too far away.”

[BCM]

Steven Gerrard has urged his Liverpool team-mates to “roll up your sleeves and fight for the club” as the side attempt to inject some momentum into their Premier League campaign with a morale-boosting victory over Arsenal on Sunday.

 

The former England captain was encouraged by the team’s display in their League Cup quarter-final win at Bournemouth on Wednesday, only their third victory in 11 games in all competitions and a timely result given last Sunday’s 3-0 loss at Manchester United, but will demand standards are maintained when league duties resume at Anfield.

 

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Brendan Rodgers’s side have won only twice in eight top-flight games and languish in the lower half of the table, 18 points from the summit, prompting Gerrard’s rallying cry in the belief the team can still instigate a revival.

 

“It’s been tough of late, I can’t deny that,” said the midfielder. “It’s been a bit of a rollercoaster so to get a good win at Bournemouth is a big lift and a lift that is very welcome. We did well as an attacking unit at Old Trafford. The difference was we made mistakes there and got punished by world-class players. At Bournemouth we cut the mistakes out and the first half was a very pleasing performance, probably as close as we’ve come to last season’s standards. But we need to keep going, keep winning.

 

“We have a tough game at the weekend against Arsenal and then we have a run of fixtures which are a bit more kind to us. If we can get a big result against Arsenal and build on this, we can turn it around. It’s been very hard. I’ve experienced it a few times during my career at Liverpool when it gets tough under certain managers and, from the outside, people are trying to kill you. It’s normal. We’re at a big club, we’ve got to take that responsibility.

 

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“We can’t have players hiding and feeling sorry for ourselves. Everyone knows if we perform back to how we have done of late against Arsenal we’ll get beat. We need men out there and, on Wednesday, I thought we all turned up. That’s why the result came.”

 

Gerrard has spoken to his club-mates, both collectively and individually, to remind them of their responsibilities in the hope they can recover from elimination from the Champions League and their sloppy opening to the domestic campaign. “But if you’re sitting in that dressing room and you don’t know that the performance levels haven’t been good enough of late, you’re at the wrong place,” he said.

 

Last season’s home game against Arsenal had summed up all that was good about this team at the time – a blistering start, inspired by Daniel Sturridge and Luis Suárez, which blew the visitors away early on – with a reshaped line-up now hoping to produce a similar performance.

 

“We won that game in the first 20 minutes but when you have a strike force of Daniel Sturridge and Luis Suárez, they are capable of killing teams in 20 minutes,” said Gerrard. “It’s different this year and everyone knows that. I think they provided 60-70% of our goals, those two. You take them out of any team in the world and it’s going to be tough, and it has been. But I think this is where you find out what kind of players you’ve got in the dressing room. It’s time to roll your sleeves up and fight for the club and try to put it right as soon as possible and that’s what we’re trying to do.”

 

There has been pressure, too, on Rodgers with the team’s major summer purchases having struggled to make a positive impact and spluttering form eroding a reputation forged on last season’s startling success. The manager has had to cope with the added pressures of European football as well as raised expectations but while there is empathy from his senior players, there is also an acceptance that criticism is inevitable.

 

“It comes with the territory,” added Gerrard. “There was a stage where a couple of my performances were under par and I got a bit of stick. It’s normal. I’ve got to accept it being captain of the club, and he’s got to accept it being the manager of Liverpool. If results don’t go well, questions are going to be asked, criticism is going to fly, you take it on the chin and try to improve things. That’s the only way.

 

“I know when I don’t play well. Every individual does here. But I think, collectively, it has been tough. It’s been tough to perform because we haven’t played well as a team and so there have been tough days of late. But if we keep fighting, keep performing, roll our sleeves up, keep giving everything we’ve got, I’m sure the good days are not too far away.”

 

Interesting stuff from gerrard. Very Interesting indeed

[RoboRiise]

Funny isn't it that for all the flak he gets from certain posters on here, not only is that an absolutely spot on assessment of our performance in the games against the mancs and Bournemouth in particular as well as the season so far, he's considerably more straightforward than the manager in how he's said it.

 

(Note - not trying to have a backhanded pop at Brendan there, I just mean that he's calling a spade a fucking shovel instead of deflecting.  There's a message for a few of the squad in those comments.)

[KopOut]

Not really, barring a title medal, Gerrard has a pretty decent haul. Granted, he could of had a better one if he had left, but he has everything but a league medal.

He'd have realistically had to go the mancs for that. Fuck that.

 

 

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[ratcatcher]

Or chelsea where he'd have as many as lampard and co.

[INTORRESTING]

Love that from gerrard, i like the fact that he spoke to everyone individually

[BCM]

Love that from gerrard, i like the fact that he spoke to everyone individually

 

Should be the managers job, says a lot

[RoboRiise]

Should be the managers job, says a lot

 

Manager's job is to make sure it's done and done well.  As far as I'm concerned, if he's identified that the captain was better placed to do it than he was on this occasion, or feels the captain can add some value to what he had to say by contributing, he's doing his job.

[INTORRESTING]

Should be the managers job, says a lot

Rodgers will be doing it aswell in a different way i expect and getting gerrard to say certain things

 

Also it is unlikely the players will resent gerrard.

[ratcatcher]

Should be the managers job, says a lot

 

So the club captain shouldnt make a comment because the manager hasnt publically in so many word?

 

Kinell, some people just want to hang everything on him.

[Ginny]

Give Rodgers a break will ye. For one - he has a lot more accountability than Gerrard does so it's easier for Stevie to come out and talk like that. Two - it's in Brendan's job description as manage surely to talk one on one with players on a daily basis which I 100% guarantee he does.

 

They have two totally different roles. I'm 100% behind Rodgers and I know he'll turn this around.

[gkmacca]

'Ye' instead of 'you' - this is RAWK talk!  We'll soon be getting 'aye' and 'arl fella'.  Everyone: cloth caps on and assume a 1930s pose!

[Tony Moanero]

'Ye' instead of 'you' - this is RAWK talk! We'll soon be getting 'aye' and 'arl fella'. Everyone: cloth caps on and assume a 1930s pose!

And we would better dressed than most lads you see walking around town nowadays.

[RoboRiise]

Manager's job is to make sure it's done and done well.  As far as I'm concerned, if he's identified that the captain was better placed to do it than he was on this occasion, or feels the captain can add some value to what he had to say by contributing, he's doing his job.

 

Since this is a Gerrard thread, only fair for me to say that he should follow his own advice as well because yesterday he was pretty much a travesty.

[Dr. J]

He was his most Stevie Me, it's all about me self. No one has the guts to call him on the Hollywood balls and shoot when I feel like it attitude - certainly not Rodgers.