Mohamed Salah

[Mathewbet1]

He might need a rest he's played more than anyone

[VladimirIlyich]

Great players have slumps in form,especially when you set such high standards. Salah is no different. They usually return to form with a bang too.

[El Rojo]

2 minutes ago, VladimirIlyich said:

Great players have slumps in form,especially when you set such high standards. Salah is no different. They usually return to form with a bang too.

I think it’s a combination of the crazy amount of football he’s played this year and the contract stuff rumbling along in the background. He’ll return to form, but it’s unlikely to be this side of the summer. 

[gkmacca]

At top clubs, no one should be more important than the team and its current targets. And it's no good people urging patience for an out of form player whilst wailing about dropped points. Make up your mind. 

[TheHowieLama]

He only played 90 minutes more than Sadio at AFCON right?

[Jimmy Hills Chin]

6 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

He only played 90 minutes more than Sadio at AFCON right?

Losing out twice has probably had some sort of impact too.

[LFC 6 Times]

It’s been a bit of a recurring theme Salah starting the season on fire and form tailing off and the back end. The opposite for Mane who seems to start relatively slowly and finish stronger.

[TheHowieLama]

5 minutes ago, Jimmy Hills Chin said:

Losing out twice has probably had some sort of impact too.

There can only be one king.

[gkmacca]

After he really hit top form earlier in the season, other teams started working extra hard to isolate him. If he got the ball out wide on the right, they sent two players out to confront him with a third hovering behind them, so after trying a few times, while his confidence was still sky high, to wriggle past them all, he started being pragmatic and passing backwards to Trent and drifting into the right-hand side of the box. Then the opponents would line up to force him further and further to the left until his chances to shoot were minimised. 

 

And that's how it's stayed ever since. He no longer has space out wide and defenders work much better as a unit to deny him a shooting chance in the box. Add to that a consequent loss of confidence and growing fatigue, and he resembles someone who is so locked into a routine that he can't see it's no longer working. 

 

He needs to change his own luck, and unthinking repetition won't do that. What is likely to do that is being less predictable. Passing the ball rather than hogging it. Seeking out new pockets of space in the box. Switching to the left every now and then. Shooting from further out (at present his shots seem only to dip once they've flown over the bar, so if he's not going to correct his technique, at least learn from the trajectory). 

 

Presumably they work with him via video clips. They should sit him down and play clip after clip of him doing the same thing over and over again with no end product and then ask him: 'Why isn't it working?' Because he seems - no Egypt jokes - in denial.

[VladimirIlyich]

4 minutes ago, gkmacca said:

After he really hit top form earlier in the season, other teams started working extra hard to isolate him. If he got the ball out wide on the right, they sent two players out to confront him with a third hovering behind them, so after trying a few times, while his confidence was still sky high, to wriggle past them all, he started being pragmatic and passing backwards to Trent and drifting into the right-hand side of the box. Then the opponents would line up to force him further and further to the left until his chances to shoot were minimised. 

 

And that's how it's stayed ever since. He no longer has space out wide and defenders work much better as a unit to deny him a shooting chance in the box. Add to that a consequent loss of confidence and growing fatigue, and he resembles someone who is so locked into a routine that he can't see it's no longer working. 

 

He needs to change his own luck, and unthinking repetition won't do that. What is likely to do that is being less predictable. Passing the ball rather than hogging it. Seeking out new pockets of space in the box. Switching to the left every now and then. Shooting from further out (at present his shots seem only to dip once they've flown over the bar, so if he's not going to correct his technique, at least learn from the trajectory). 

 

Presumably they work with him via video clips. They should sit him down and play clip after clip of him doing the same thing over and over again with no end product and then ask him: 'Why isn't it working?' Because he seems - no Egypt jokes - in denial.

That's a pharoah'd post.

[an tha]

27 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

He only played 90 minutes more than Sadio at AFCON right?

110....

 

But i think it is more the demands of the games being 120 mins long back to back than the actual amount of total mins.

 

Mane played:

 

90

90

90

70

90

90

120

 

So only played extra time once.

 

Salah played:

 

90

90

90

120

120

120

120

 

4 lots of extra time on bounce

 

[3 Stacks]

Being tired is simply no excuse. Don't want to hear it when you want parity with the highest earners in the world.

 

 

[TheHowieLama]

5 minutes ago, VladimirIlyich said:

That's a pharoah'd post.

I sphinx there is some truth there.

[TheHowieLama]

2 minutes ago, an tha said:

110

I watched some of those Egypt games - a Liverpool training session would take more out of him. I think it is more mental - and the Egypt FA have alot to do with that.

[Pete]

Personally I think he needs to decide what’s most on important to him at this stage of his career.  
If it’s money then thanks for the memories, good luck with your new club.  
If it’s love and devotion from the supporters,  playing for the best club manager in a generation and challenging for the highest honours in the game then sign the contract, do your best for the rest of the season (I’m sure he’s trying), enjoy your break and see you next season,  

[VERBAL DIARRHEA]

AFCON and World Cup qualifying and his future weighing heavy it seems, needs to snap out of it if so. You’re needed Mo.

[J-V]

We’ve offered him what ever our best offer is he hasn’t signed and his agent has taken the piss out of said offer so that’s that. £150m Newcastle marque signing.

 

Could have done without this when everything is on the line.

[TheHowieLama]

What you can be reasonably sure of after Klopp extending, is when he says it is not about the money, it's about the money.

[an tha]

19 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

I watched some of those Egypt games - a Liverpool training session would take more out of him. I think it is more mental - and the Egypt FA have alot to do with that.

I agree there is a big mental part and the fact he is their leader, talisman and superstar - they put him under massive pressure.

 

But i think myself it is wrong to dismiss the physical impact of 4 back to back 120 games in a very short period of time, smack bang on middle of season...then add on all the games for us and another 120 min game in 2nd leg of world cup qualifier a few days after 1st.

 

I still think he'll do something critical for us this season anyway....form and class and that....

[gkmacca]

Round and round in circles we go...

[Captain Turdseye]

5 minutes ago, gkmacca said:

Round and round in circles we go...

And then cut inside onto the left foot. 

[Kevin D]

Don’t know why Klopp is still starting him. I haven’t seen loyalty like this since Korea.

[TheHowieLama]

18 minutes ago, Kevin D said:

Don’t know why Klopp is still starting him. I haven’t seen loyalty like this since Korea.

Vietnam: Hold my beer.

[aRdja]

15 hours ago, gkmacca said:

The alternative is Mane, who earned a transfer to the club by playing on the right, is right-footed, and can also, unlike Mo, score goals with his 'weaker' foot. So that IS a 'great'' alternative. Diaz on the left, Jota or Bobby in the centre and Mane on the right. Replacing one of them with Mo on top form would make it better; replacing one of them with Mo in his current form would make it worse.

Mane hasn’t played well on the right for ages. It’s an area we need to address in the summer. 

[Red Shift]

15 hours ago, Jimmy Hills Chin said:

Losing out twice has probably had some sort of impact too.

Plus the whole saga of getting shit chucked at him as he was escorted from the field. I’ve said it before - he’s a gentle soul and I reckon his confidence has been knocked for six, probably by a combination of things, including no new deal. He’ll be doubting his own abilities right now, but to what degree?