Donald Trump

[Section_31]

8 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

The president doesn't have any real say in a war starting or it not starting. 

 

Trump wanted it with Iran and was told to shut the fuck up , he wants it with China and thats never happening.The maniac genuinely wants to 'take' Russia as if he is Rocky Balboa so he is labelled as the greatest but knows full well it ain't happening. He is a fucking lunatic who thinks he runs the world with very little actual world power. 

TBH I think starting wars and foreign policy is where the US President actually has the most power and not the least, it's far easier for him to carpet bomb someone that it is to lower domestic taxes or get a judge approved for ther supreme court. Militarily, I think he can do pretty much what he wants, he's the head of state and commander in chief of the military rolled into one, their model is based on Rome and the president is Caesar, the founding fathers really didn't think this through.

 

There is the genuine prospect of this spinning out of control IMO. The more his back is to the wall and the more his hands are tied domestically as the election approaches the more he'll want to exercise his power the only way he can, starting shit with foreign lands.

[TheHowieLama]

Spineless muppet - I remember when he was just kidding about ingesting disinfectant.

 

 

Asked how he could “know that phrase and not know it’s racially charged history,” Trump claimed that the phrase was common and has a different, non-threatening meaning.

“Well I’ve heard that phrase for a long time. I don’t know where it came from or where it originated … I’ve heard it for a long time as most people have."

 

 

Most people have heard the phrase "When the looting starts, the shooting starts" in any other context??

[Anubis]

Trump doesn’t want a war with anyone.
 

He sabre rattled at North Korea, then ended up shaking Tubby’s hand. 

 

He sabre rattled at Iran, but when Bolton thought he’d finally persuaded a US President to commit to one, Trump kicked him out of the administration. 
 

He’ll sabre rattled at China but the reality it’s all pantomime in his ongoing trade war, which is the nearest they’ll ever get to a real war.

[TheHowieLama]

You don't have to be a war time President to be a war time....

[Bjornebye]

15 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

TBH I think starting wars and foreign policy is where the US President actually has the most power and not the least, it's far easier for him to carpet bomb someone that it is to lower domestic taxes or get a judge approved for ther supreme court. Militarily, I think he can do pretty much what he wants, he's the head of state and commander in chief of the military rolled into one, their model is based on Rome and the president is Caesar, the founding fathers really didn't think this through.

 

There is the genuine prospect of this spinning out of control IMO. The more his back is to the wall and the more his hands are tied domestically as the election approaches the more he'll want to exercise his power the only way he can, starting shit with foreign lands.

Agree with the spinning out of control bit but no he doesn't hold the power on his own to start a war. 

[TheHowieLama]

7 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

Agree with the spinning out of control bit but no he doesn't hold the power on his own to start a war. 

He cannot declare war - he can unilaterally order military action.

[Bjornebye]

2 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

He cannot declare war - he can unilaterally order military action.

And be told unilaterally to fuck off. 

[TheHowieLama]

14 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

And be told unilaterally to fuck off. 

Not really. 

[Guest]

22 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

He cannot declare war - he can unilaterally order military action.

Isn't that the same thing? Surely military action is an act of war.

[Bjornebye]

9 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

Not really. 

Ok so if Trump woke up and said right lets go and annex Ghana the military would say yeah ok ? 

[TheHowieLama]

1 minute ago, S.i.t.M aka The Boring One™ said:

Isn't that the same thing? Surely military action is an act of war.

Declaration of war is done by Congress. The US hasn't declared war for awhile now. During that time both Obama and Trump have taken on a bunch of military action. I don't think Bush/Congress ever declared war in Afghanistan but Congress may have authorized continued action.

So stuff like Grenada, Libya, Pakistan on up to the killing of Soleimani had nothing to do with Congress.

[littletedwest]

5 hours ago, Section_31 said:

Republican presidents in my lifetime have always been helmets. Spitting Image used to do sketches about Reagan called "the president's brain is missing." Dubya's malapropisms are legendary. 

 

You don't need a brain to climb the greasy pole in politics. The difference between Trump and those two is they'd been in that world for years and were also willing to rely on others to run the operation. Trump has basically come straight from being a big fat lord of the manor type and given the keys.

I've said this before but he isn't as bright as Regan or Bush. Watched a documentary on Regans dementia You can see a decline in his speed ,answers and vocabulary between 79-88 but he's still makes far more sense than Trump in terms of diction etc. 

Defo think he's already senile

[TheHowieLama]

14 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

Ok so if Trump woke up and said right lets go and annex Ghana the military would say yeah ok ? 

The military doesn't have a choice.

[Bjornebye]

Just now, TheHowieLama said:

The military doesn't have a choice.

Cool. 

[Rico1304]

 

[Bobby Hundreds]

Fuck that work experience.... "but my friends are in Dixons"

 

Is Dixon's still a thing.

[Section_31]

8 hours ago, littletedwest said:

I've said this before but he isn't as bright as Regan or Bush. Watched a documentary on Regans dementia You can see a decline in his speed ,answers and vocabulary between 79-88 but he's still makes far more sense than Trump in terms of diction etc. 

Defo think he's already senile

Oh deffo, you'll get no argument from me there. I genuinely can't think of anyone more vile and stupid in public life, or outside of it for that matter, as Donald Trump. It's like a bad dream.

 

I quite liked Reagan, based purely on the fact I was a kid at the time and he seemed pretty funny and easy going. I know a lot of unions and south Americans wont agree. 

[s(k)aturation]

 

36 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

I quite liked Reagan, based purely on the fact I was a kid at the time and he seemed pretty funny and easy going. I know a lot of unions and south Americans wont agree. 

 

I'd say Iraqis, whom he "supported" in the war against Iran, and Iranians, to whom he sold arms at the same time, might have struggled to be convinced by Reagan's avuncular side.

 

 

[Section_31]

2 minutes ago, skaro said:

 

 

I'd say Iraqis, whom he "supported" in the war against Iran, and Iranians, to whom he sold arms at the same time, might have struggled to be convinced by Reagan's avuncular side.

 

 

I think unlike Dubya and Trump though Reagan was a true believer. He thought America was boss and communism was evil, probably was genuinely religious where as all the decisions made by Bush jnr were couched in all of those things but were mainly about money.

 

Theresa May was like that I reckon. She loved her cartoon vision of Britain and considered Corbyn a communist heretic. 

[s(k)aturation]

1 minute ago, Section_31 said:

I think unlike Dubya and Trump though Reagan was a true believer. He thought America was boss and communism was evil, probably was genuinely religious where as all the decisions made by Bush jnr were couched in all of those things but were mainly about money.

 

Theresa May was like that I reckon. She loved her cartoon vision of Britain and considered Corbyn a communist heretic. 

 

Yeah, perhaps true.  Mind you, I reckon Hitler was a true believer as well.

 

 

[Section_31]

2 minutes ago, skaro said:

 

Yeah, perhaps true.  Mind you, I reckon Hitler was a true believer as well.

 

 

Haha very true!

[JagSquared]

 

is that even readable? It won’t let me upload a bigger file size 

[Guest Pistonbroke]

1 hour ago, Section_31 said:

I think unlike Dubya and Trump though Reagan was a true believer. He thought America was boss and communism was evil.

 

Nixon was the same, in fact Nixon was a lot like Trump in the fact they were/are both felt/feel awkward in addressing personal faith but not shy in enjoying massive support from the White evangelical voters. Nixon had a Quaker background and fought with himself over wanting peace yet using aggressive political tactics. Trump however just had a background shaped by wealth and probably being told to sit in the corner and be quiet due to the fact he's a thick cunt. 

[Guest Pistonbroke]

20 minutes ago, JagSquared said:

 

is that even readable? It won’t let me upload a bigger file size 

 

No mate, just link it. 

[SasaS]

These riots are going to give Trump back everything he lost over corona.