Man Utd (a). FA Cup, 3rd round. Sun 9/1/11

[stringvest]

I'm not even disputing that, you fill up every match thread with criticism of kuyt regardless of his performance, you're boring.

 

Not regardless of performance at all.

[russ1979]

how poor has itv,s coverage got adrain chiles, fat sam and garth southgate what a load if boring crap

[ngogswilly]

Kenny just said exactly what I was saying earlier. Even if Stevie deserved the red.

 

You watch that back, you'll see Webb about to let the game go on. He wasn't going to do anything till the manc players started screaming. He let the mancs make the decision

[TheHitman]

I wonder what the excuses are for Torres today? Lazy and gutless glad Kenny stood up and hauled him off, our end or at least were I was were all applauding the decision

 

 

It was the right decision to take him off as he was going to be tired. To be fair when we went to ten it was always going to be a difficult job for a striker who plays the way he does.

 

Lets see how he performs after a half a dozen games under a new manager first before we start slating him.

[Pidge]

Kenny's demeanour was so refreshing... he praised the player's efforts but was clearly disappointed with the loss. There are no positive defeats. The Liverpool Way returns!

[King Emlyn]

Fucking hell mate it wasn't that bed. Webb didn't want to know at first, till the penny dropped who was sitting in the duggout. It was in response to a worse two footed jump just before it. Unpunished naturally.

 

Edit: In reply to Jennings

[Mr T]

Loved that little interview with Kenny at the end.

[redsfan]

how poor has itv,s coverage got adrain chiles, fat sam and garth southgate what a load if boring crap

 

They are full of shit tbh. Proud of those players today and Kenny and the supporters. Note though, Kenny may have to spend bit of time with nando, there is something not right with the kid.

[Guest San Don]

Kenny just said exactly what I was saying earlier. Even if Stevie deserved the red.

 

You watch that back, you'll see Webb about to let the game go on. He wasn't going to do anything till the manc players started screaming. He let the mancs make the decision

 

and as the King said, everyone who doesnt have a foot on the ground is gonna get sent off are they? Are they fuck. webb's a cheating twat. He was looking to give the manc filth every decision. Fernandez on Meireles (ok Meireles shit out the soft lad), immediately before the sending off. Play wasnt even stopped.

[Manny]

Proud again today, chest was bursting out my shirt watching Kenny in the dugout and seeing the level of performance rise. Bent Webb cost us that one, completely - say what you like about Gerrard's sending off (should have been a red for Rafael as well by the same logic, but deserved and Gerrard should have known better), but we were given a mountain to climb by a completely wrong decision. Take the "minimal contact" bollocks that's already being sycophantically written into the match reports out of it - Agger didn't touch him, it was a fucking dive. Gerrard's sending off made it even tougher.

 

Still - some positives to be taken. A lot of positives. Players in rightful positions, in a formation that suits and playing a style which seems to get more out of them. Kelly was absolutely excellent - fitness permitting (he put a hell of a shift in) he should retain his place with Johnson ahead of him. General improvement from all of the back 4, and Pepe was immense. Meireles was disappointing, but we don't know exactly how fit he was, bearing in mind he's just coming back from injury.

 

Onwards and upwards. We won't have to play this bent shower every week with their favourite ref. I fear for the league generally, though. They'll win their 19th this year, make no mistake, but games like today really make me wonder just how legit those titles are. Today was a disgrace, and it seems like ages since the last time we weren't at the toilet and not on the end of a controversial decision.

[23_Carra_Gold]

Hodgson would have never had the bottle to take Torres off. Instant improvement.

 

4-5-1 is our best formation as well.

[Wor Horse]

Feels good again to be pissed off at Refs and not ineptness of managers and players not trying.

[Royal Family]

I'm not even disputing that, you fill up every match thread with criticism of kuyt regardless of his performance, you're boring.

 

To be fair though, Dirk would be put down if he were a horse. He looks about two stones too heavy to me, which means even his famed powers of energy and endurance have gone - puffing after 60 minutes again today. Brings nothing to the team at the moment, I'm afraid.

[dlfc]

We lost to Webb but at least won some pride back.

[Colonol]

I really hope that Kelly keeps his place and Johnson is given a run ahead of him. Kuyt is just too slow and his touch is dreadful. I'd sell him now while he commands a decent price and get some new winger in to replace him.

[lamai]

happy with the effort on onwards and upwards

[NLW2010]

Disappointed with the result, however given the circumstances it was 100% better than it would have been last week . No point discussing the pen and red, we all know why, just so refreshing to see a manager with enough brains to see it needed changing and doing so with enough time to influence the game . Granted it didn't change the outcome but at least it was positive . Had that been under "the other guy" we would have been royally stuffed with nothing to look towards . Can't wait for the derby now .

[Guest davelfc]

Well, down by a dubious penalty (dive) our captain sent off (he wouldn't have sent a manc off for the same thing) and if you believe the media and others a very poor squad.

 

But we matched those bastards in the first half, kept them out in the second. Who knows if that had been a fair game we might have had enough to win. As it was I think we deserved a draw.

 

I'm proud of the players today, a couple of days ago most of us thought we were in for a thrashing. Well they went through as cheats for me, dirty fucking cheats. As Kenny stamps his authority on the team I think we will see even more improvement.

 

Very impressed with Kelly, his performance and confidence would have you believe he had been playing in the first team for years.

[TheHowieLama]

Where are all the myps?

 

Be interested to hear their side after that.

[TheHowieLama]

He strolled for 90 minutes.

Hes not fucking trying.

 

especially those last twenty, like he was sitting still.

[Yossi15]

Draw 0-0 against United, though we lost against Webb today. A lot of good things here, we did fight for each other, that's a start. Kelly is class, and so is Agger. Berba is a fucking cheat and i'll promise i'll find Webb and his family....... and give them a lection in corruption

[Jennings]

Missed kenny's interview...will have to see if it is on YouTube after.

[a stoner]

That was different.... to what we have been used to.

Where to start.

I know Webb!!

First big decision of the game and he fucked it right up, he didn't even bother talking to the assistant referee. If he had it would never have been a penalty.

Then his next big decision was on the sending off of Gerrard and he did, in my opinion, get this one right. Gerrard knew it too as he mae no attempt to argue his case as he didn't have one. I do however think a couple of yellows should have gone to the united players who chased after Webb.

 

Pepe was a god AGAIN. He nearly saved the penalty and then made an incredible set of saves in the second have when united had an absolute barrage of shots on target in the same attack.

 

With the major points in the game taken care of I have to say I actually enjoyed watching us play again. All the team put in 110% even if a few ideas weren't too good or passes missplaced, they came up with ideas and ATTACKED even when down to 10 men. I would have expected us to roll over if Roy had still been here but today we didn't all the way to the end of the game.

Torres didn't look stroppy, even when Evans was a little over enthusiastic in his challenges. He wasn't at his best but he looked a different player to the one we have seen for most of this season and alot of last season too.

Both Babel and N'gog tried harder and were more productive than in games gone by even with their lack of service from being a player down. Dirk played is socks off and looked absolutely fucked for the last 10 minutes but still tried closing players down which, to be honest we did alot more throughout the game.

 

IF Webb had had the brains to speak to the assistant instead of being a power happy twat I think we could have come away from the game with a draw and a replay. As it is we didn't and can concentrate on the league and getting up the table. All in all a much better performance by everyone and I'm now looking forward to watching us play again.

[Einch]

Not sure what to make of Torres today. Better than under Roy but he was in and out of the game and retreated even further into his shell when we went down to 10. it was the right call to take him off. I will Raul the benefit of the doubt with his injury but it was a woeful performance from him with and without the ball. The back four were much better and we handled the threat pretty well all things considered. Lucas was good as was Maxi while he was on. Gerrard should know better than to give the bent SYP cunt the excuse to send one of us off.

All in all an excellent day and we have shown that the Mancs are not that great. They can be got at. Kelly was superb and should partner Agger at the back. I don't think Shelvey was all that but on this showing he should be in the side in place of Raul. At present it looks as though all of the 1st team buys this summer have been a load of wank.

[Phoenix]

When we pass the ball we look so much better.