Javier Mascherano

[njackets]

Amazing player. I think Lucas and him together would be brilliant. Lucas is a better player now than he was last time they played together.

 

Maybe but not as good as an Alonso Mascherano together how good would we be with them in three plus Gerrard though?

[FrenchEyeGlass]

Despite giving everything for us whenever he played and dedicating his winning of the Champions League with Barca to us (out of the blue), Mascherano is a cunt for refusing to play under Roy Hodgson in order to force his move through the best club team in the world.

 

Meanwhile...

 

Every Liverpool fan abuses Roy Hodgson every minute of the day through every medium possible. They hope he gets sacked as soon as possible, with many resorting to personal insults towards the man.

 

And Jamie Carragher is a legend for refusing to play at right back under Rafa.

 

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I dont think Mascherano is some saint. But the logic within our fanbase is terribly flawed. If Carragher and Stevie refused to play under Hodgson, for whatever reason, this place would immediately laud them for standing up to the "owl faced cunt"

[moof]

Despite giving everything for us whenever he played and dedicating his winning of the Champions League with Barca to us (out of the blue), Mascherano is a cunt for refusing to play under Roy Hodgson in order to force his move through the best club team in the world.

 

Meanwhile...

 

Every Liverpool fan abuses Roy Hodgson every minute of the day through every medium possible. They hope he gets sacked as soon as possible, with many resorting to personal insults towards the man.

 

And Jamie Carragher is a legend for refusing to play at right back under Rafa.

 

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I dont think Mascherano is some saint. But the logic within our fanbase is terribly flawed. If Carragher and Stevie refused to play under Hodgson, for whatever reason, this place would immediately laud them for standing up to the "owl faced cunt"

 

Are you always on some sort of moral crusade? Masch was a cunt for refusing to play. Hodgson was a cunt full stop. Carra is a legend. Steve is a legend. Tough shit if you disagree, that's just how it is.

[FrenchEyeGlass]

Are you always on some sort of moral crusade? Masch was a cunt for refusing to play. Hodgson was a cunt full stop. Carra is a legend. Steve is a legend. Tough shit if you disagree, that's just how it is.

 

I can accept that people have different opinions. But when one is based on hypocrisy, then those opinions are quite stupid, aren't they?

 

Hodgson was a massive cunt.

 

How mascherano is a cunt for refusing to do as his manager asks (and solely that - unless you can point out one single other way he has behaved cuntishly), but Carragher isn't a cunt for refusing to do as his manager asks, is beyond me. Its hypocritical and absolutely biased.

 

Surely, either both are cunts or neither are cunts (but just behaved poorly)?

[piscinin]

I can accept that people have different opinions. But when one is based on hypocrisy, then those opinions are quite stupid, aren't they?

 

Hodgson was a massive cunt.

 

How mascherano is a cunt for refusing to do as his manager asks (and solely that - unless you can point out one single other way he has behaved cuntishly), but Carragher isn't a cunt for refusing to do as his manager asks, is beyond me. Its hypocritical and absolutely biased.

 

Surely, either both are cunts or neither are cunts (but just behaved poorly)?

 

Hypocrisy is human. Logic is code72.

[FrenchEyeGlass]

Hypocrisy is human. Logic is code72.

 

It is also the answer to life.

 

God takes tips off Code, in fact. (Not robbie, the guy upstairs).

[moof]

If you can't see the difference in Mascherano refusing to play to force a move and Carra refusing to play in a certain position because he feels he can't handle it then I'm afraid I can't help you. (not that I agree with what Carra did, but there's a massive difference)

 

Carra has also played over 700 games for Liverpool, cementing his legendary status.

[piscinin]

If you can't see the difference in Mascherano refusing to play to force a move and Carra refusing to play in a certain position because he feels he can't handle it then I'm afraid I can't help you. (not that I agree with what Carra did, but there's a massive difference)

 

And if you can't (won't) see that there are as many similarities as otherwise then you probably can't be helped either.

[moof]

Fact is Mascherano refused to play for Liverpool FC to force a move away from the club. I've already said I disagreed with what Carra did but this is a different fucking league.

[LFC 6 Times]

Absolutely loved him to bits when he was here, always fought tooth and nail right up to his last game for the club always gave 100%, he was MOTM vs Arsenal, unfortunate circumstances the way he left were unfortunate, but i can't begrudge him a move to the greatest club team of all time.

[Guest the boy]

Fact is Mascherano refused to play for Liverpool FC to force a move away from the club. I've already said I disagreed with what Carra did but this is a different fucking league.

 

Carragher wouldn't get a move preferable to the insane contract we gave him.

[BringbackBiscan]

He's a cunt.

 

He'd also get bummed badly playing centre back for any other club in the world.

[xerxes]

Piscinin is right to point out that most footballers are wilful and self-interested. Carra and Masch demonstrate that point, but they are pro sportsman, it comes with the territory.

 

It is true that refusing to play in a position and refusing toplay for the club are different categories of self-interest.

 

Carra genuinely believes, I think, that he knows what is best for LFC and has, and had, little time for those whom he thinks were, or are, just passing through.

[Rico1304]

I saw him on Saturday night, I'm away in Valencia and the Barca team stayed at the same hotel. He came out to sign autographs and was mobbed. If I knew how To do it I could post a lovely picture of the back of his head.

[Captain]

Fantastic player, what a midfield and team we had back then!

[Jairzinho]

He's got even better at Barcelona. His range of passing, first touch and awareness of space have all predictably improved.

 

And he was fucking ace for us.

[silverlining]

Are you always on some sort of moral crusade? Masch was a cunt for refusing to play. Hodgson was a cunt full stop. Carra is a legend. Steve is a legend. Tough shit if you disagree, that's just how it is.

 

This is all correct and inarguable.

[Aldonose]

We have badly missed leaders on the pitch this season. Mascherano comes into that category without a doubt.

[Stu Monty]

Still one of my favourite ever players. Fucking warrior.

[RobbieOR]

I'd have him back.

[Funkasy]

[Torvald Utne]

"He is not here tonight because there is some speculation about his future and his mind is not right, so it was not correct to select him," Hodgson told Sky Sports ahead of the City game.

 

Hodgson has not given up hope of getting the chance to select Mascherano though, as the club will not shift from their valuation of the player.

 

"Hopefully it will be resolved before the end of the transfer window and I will get the chance to select him again, but it was not right tonight," Hodgson added. "The club has got a position. We are under pressure from other clubs who want to sign him. There may come a time when the offer matches our valuation, but until that day he stays with us."

 

Even if he did refuse, the way I understood it was that he had been given a guarantee that he could join Barcelona that year and we were trying to back out. If that's the case he didn't do anything wrong.

 

Loved having him here.

[Anny Road]

You could almost cry thinking back to that midfield of him Alonso and a peak Gerrard. Be a long long time before we see anything anywhere near as good as that again.

 

Spearing Adam Henderson fuckinghell

[Guest San Don]

Despite giving everything for us whenever he played and dedicating his winning of the Champions League with Barca to us (out of the blue), Mascherano is a cunt for refusing to play under Roy Hodgson in order to force his move through the best club team in the world.

 

Meanwhile...

 

Every Liverpool fan abuses Roy Hodgson every minute of the day through every medium possible. They hope he gets sacked as soon as possible, with many resorting to personal insults towards the man.

 

And Jamie Carragher is a legend for refusing to play at right back under Rafa.

 

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I dont think Mascherano is some saint. But the logic within our fanbase is terribly flawed. If Carragher and Stevie refused to play under Hodgson, for whatever reason, this place would immediately laud them for standing up to the "owl faced cunt"

 

Only carragher didnt refuse to play in the fucking game, you tool!

[FrenchEyeGlass]

Only carragher didnt refuse to play in the fucking game, you tool!

 

Neither did Mascherano, it seems. Hodgson chose not to select him.

 

You spanner!