If we had won in Athens NO ONE would question Rafa

[Jens]

Had Rafa picked up his second Champions League title in Athens, no one would be screaming for his head at this moment. People would look at the current situation in a different way.

 

"We have a manager that in three years did what took Alex Ferguson twenty years to achieve."

 

"We´re a bit unbalanced since Alonso left and have been through an injury crisis, but we will get it right soon. We nearly won the league last season, remember?"

 

"If Rafa could bring in a few more players in the 20 million bracket, we would have more players of Torres´and Johnson´s standard, it´s not his fault that Man Utd and Chelsea have money to spend and we don´t."

 

These would be a lot more frequent comments among Liverpool fans.

 

 

Now, everyone goes:

 

"We are shit and it´s Rafa´s fault"

 

"Rafa has bought 70 players. How many of those signings have been good enough?"

 

I just have one thing to say. We were the better team in Athens.

[Carradona]

We didn't win in Athens.

[Dan Vito Corleone]

His team selection that day still grates on me. We should have won, comfortably.

[Unrighteous]

If your aunt had a set of testicles, she'd be your uncle, Jens.

[ZonkoVille77]

Well we didn't win so your whole post is a little bit pointless.

 

I'd agree that people are rushing for his head a bit early but that's the modern way. I keep saying judge him at the end of the season.

[Woo]

It didn't take Alex Ferguson twenty years to win the league.

[Lario]

Yeah.

Can't believe Rafa's been here nearly 20 years, and he still hasn't won the league!

[FrenchEyeGlass]

It didn't take Alex Ferguson twenty years to win the league.

 

Your right, it took him seven.

 

Two more than Rafas had.

 

:thumbup:

[Woo]

Your right, it took him seven.

 

Two more than Rafas had.

 

:thumbup:

 

Exactly, so the original poster got it wrong.

[Guest Numero Veinticinco]

His team selection that day still grates on me. We should have won, comfortably.

 

We certainly played well enough.

[Stouffer]

[The 5th Benitel]

If i'd done well in my job 3 years ago but then fucked everything up for the last 6 months i'd still get the boot.

[Antynwa]

If we didn't win in Istanbul, would he have this much leway?

 

Infact had we not performed a miracle v Olympiakos would you still be posting this thread?

[Guest Pistonbroke]

If if if....Thought Rafa fucked up with his tactics in Athens myself and Milan were not that good, we just handed them a 2 goal lead.

 

Would it have made a difference to the form we find ourselves in and how the fans are feeling? I doubt it very much. But we'll never know as it DID'T happen.

[Faustus]

It works both ways though. If Dudek hadn't have made a once in a lifetime save from Shevchenko in extra-time or Gerrard hadn't have pinged one in from 30 years in the last minute of the FA Cup Final, then he would be criticised with even more ferocity.

 

As has been said, if my aunty had balls, she'd be be my uncle.

[zigackly]

I don't know if anyone will have thought to point this out to you yet Jens, but we didn't win in Athens.

 

If Houllier had won the league by the way, then he would probably still be manager!

[stringvest]

Probably not a great example to use Jens, as Athens was the point at which a lot of Liverpool supporters started questioning Benitez's team selections and tactics. It seemed that we almost went out of our way to lose a very winnable game of football.

[WhiskeyJar]

Mummy I dont like this thread....

 

Make it go away........

[Faustus]

The decision not to start Crouch still baffles me to this day.

 

Bellamy should also have come on for the last 15-20 mins as well.

[Kennys_spell]

It works both ways though. If Dudek hadn't have made a once in a lifetime save from Shevchenko in extra-time or Gerrard hadn't have pinged one in from 30 years in the last minute of the FA Cup Final, then he would be criticised with even more ferocity.

 

As has been said, if my aunty had balls, she'd be be my uncle.

 

Actually, Dudek made TWO once in a lifetime saves - one after the other - from Shevchenko in extra-time.

[WaltonRed]

We didn't win in Athens.

 

His team selection that day still grates on me. We should have won, comfortably.

 

In two.

 

He worried about a team rather than let them worry about us which is his modus operandi and always will be.

[Royal Family]

But, Rafa picked Zenden and Pennant, and we didn't win...

 

It was also the day that Peter Crouch - who was on fire at that point of the season - realised the manager had no faith in him.

[hamstrung]

If your aunt had a set of testicles, she'd be your uncle, Jens.

 

I wouldn't completely rule out the probability of transgender deficiencies in Jens family.

 

In two.

 

He worried about a team rather than let them worry about us which is his modus operandi and always will be.

 

To be fair, it was a team who had taken us apart not too long before. He was right to be more cautious second time around - you don't repeat Istanbul - but that's not to say mistakes weren't made.

[tenner]

His team selection that day still grates on me. We should have won, comfortably.

 

We were the better team by far. Played better than when we won in 2005. I agree with team selection and even today his team selection is sometimes questionable.

[WaltonRed]

I wouldn't completely rule out the probability of transgender deficiencies in Jens family.

 

 

 

To be fair, it was a team who had taken us apart not too long before. He was right to be more cautious second time around - you don't repeat Istanbul - but that's not to say mistakes weren't made.

 

Taken us apart but we won.

 

We where a better team in Athens than Istanbul and Milan were the reverse.

 

They were there for the taking.