Rafa: Why I Back Lucas 100%

[Ted]

And cos he's got an Italian passport.

 

Must be why Eduardo's Italian mate recommended him. I heard he was measuring up for a new swimming pool. Aledgedly.

[JMARKH]

Will you fucking stop it with Kuyt, the entire universe knows your opinion of him.

 

If you carry on I'll have to name you 'Bradawl' a small boring tool.

 

I had to use it as an example, its a case of one rule for one and one rule for another. Same with Lucas.

[ToxtethTerror]

Can someone tell me what's wrong with backing a player publically?

[SpeedyG]

You said people couldn't see what Hamann brought in the grander scale. Did you mean us simpletons can't see what Lucas brings/will bring in the grander scale by making that statement?

 

I made no judgment. If you wish,as some others do, to interpret it that way that's your call.

[Ted]

Nothing. Nothing at all.

[Ted]

I made no judgment. If you wish,as some others do, to interpret it that way that's your call.

 

Well it wouldn't be the first time you came over all 'Cardie' in one of your responses.

[ToxtethTerror]

I sense a holy trinity of SpeedyG, catch22 and Cardie are out to get us! It's like the internet Police on here sometimes!

 

So if there is nothing wrong with praising a player publically then why has this thread descended into attacking Rafa?

[Ted]

Probably because of who he's praising.

[robslappa]

He's not exactly going to come out and say he's shit and has the decision making prowess of someone with alzheimer's is he?

 

He's defended one of his players and he shouldn't get stick for that.

[Little Sammy]

Stinks of double standards there, Rafa.

 

Were we watching the same games?!?! Lucas had two horrible games, and if anything it was Benayoun who was the best player vs. Wigan.

[SpeedyG]

Well it wouldn't be the first time you came over all 'Cardie' in one of your responses.

 

And it wouldn't be the first time people decided to read into words something that was just wasn't there.

[Ted]

Reputation preceeding and all that.

[Randy Marsh]

I though against the blueshite he had a very good game. But as my dad said on the phone when i spoke to him afterwards, the lad is becoming a liability. He seriously needs to cut out those daft fouls and late lunges because they are costing us big time. Ok, maybe the first was not a booking but he knew fully well he was getting no where near the second, yet he still made the foul. Its unbelievable. I don't mind Rafa coming out and praising certain players when they need it, no one likes to see the fans on a players back. His performances have improved of late, but it's the same mistakes time and time again which he isn't eradicating from his game. Yes, he's young and maybe a bit naive. Stevie used to get sent off all the time when he was a kid making silly tackles (Not that i am for one minute making a comparison ability wise). But he's a Brazilian international, not an inexperienced no mark. He needs to cut this out his game and he'll improve a hell of a lot.

[SpeedyG]

Reputation preceeding and all that.

 

In psychology it's called the horn and halo effect.

[grazywalker]

Lucas is the reason Riley sent off Lampard.

Riley " you snidy bastard ,you know if Xabi goes off injured Lucas will have to come on.Fuckin red card for being a cunt "

[Hermes]

"He is a fantastic player".

 

That statement is really worrying. Not just because it is total bollocks, but because a player who he rates as a "fantastic player" is not a first choice pick for the team. Rafa is totally losing it, I think they removed his brain when they were removing his kidney stones.

[Xherdan]

Rafa backs Lucas in public, he gets attacked by people on here for double standards. Is it not possible that Lucas tries hard in training and is working on Rafa's idea's? Robbie Keane didnt and now he is gone. He patently didnt try hard enough to get back into Rafa's plans. Lucas does and Rafa backs him. Nothing wrong here.

[ToxtethTerror]

There is nothing wrong with praising a player but everything wrong with being selective with who you praise.

[Guest Ibetitsme7]

I though against the blueshite he had a very good game.

 

why ?

 

why would ANYONE think that ?

 

he did nothing (as usual) above the basic minimum requirement of a professional footballer, at any level, which is to be able to pass the ball 10 yards to your nearest teammate

 

he tried one long pass to Torres like the one at Newcastle that has apparently made him as a Liverpool player in some people's books (doesn't take much these days does it, one fucking pass) but it was overhit

 

that's all he did

 

the rest of it was a litany of fouls, 4 or 5 niggly ones that he was WARNED about before he picked up his first yellow, that got him sent off

 

I see nothing in there to warrant any suggestion that he had a "very good game" or even a "good game"

 

the more games he plays, the more this club will edge toward dropping out of the top 4 and losing the manager that chooses to play him. He is literally a liability and he's the only player in the squad that I think genuinely deserves that tag.

[Brownie]

If Rafa really believes that, then all I can say is that I disagree with him.

[robslappa]

Rafa backs Lucas in public, he gets attacked by people on here for double standards. Is it not possible that Lucas tries hard in training and is working on Rafa's idea's? Robbie Keane didnt and now he is gone. He patently didnt try hard enough to get back into Rafa's plans. Lucas does and Rafa backs him. Nothing wrong here.

 

What makes you say that? Rafa himself said Keane worked hard while he was here and he thanked him for his efforts in his press conference the other day.

 

And is for impact on the pitch, for as little as Keane did for us in a red shirt you'd struggle to find many people who would say Lucas has contributed more this season.

[Xherdan]

There is nothing wrong with praising a player but everything wrong with being selective with who you praise.

 

 

So praise everyone equally or praise no one at all? Bullshit. Lucas has had a hard week, Rafa decides to back Lucas publically, its not fucking kindergarden.

[Hermes]

Is it not possible that Lucas tries hard in training

 

 

When Premiership matches are played at Melwood we will be unbeatable. Players should be judged by what they do in competitive matches, not by how hard they run in training.

[SpeedyG]

When Premiership matches are played at Melwood we will be unbeatable. Players should be judged by what they do in competitive matches, not by how hard they run in training.

 

Players should be judged on a variety of factors including both how they perform in training and how they perform in competitive games.

[Ted]

Well we don't see them in training do we?