Newcastle (A) - Sun 27th Aug 2023 (4:30pm)

[an tha]

They won't finish in top 6 this season.

 

They massively overachieved last season.

 

Europe will find them out this season.

 

But sadly of course they'll buy their way to top soon enough - but for now they have been overachieving, they'll fall back a bit this season but they are currently ahead of schedule.

[johnsusername]

Newcastle finished above us in the league. They are - are hard as it is to admit - the better team. League table doesn't lie. 

[suzy]

Well I saw a stat today that said we haven’t lost to Newcastle home or away for a few years so I was feeling quite confident but if Konate is out I’m wobbling a bit.

Just smash these Reds!

 

[LFC 6 Times]

2 hours ago, johnsusername said:

Newcastle finished above us in the league. They are - are hard as it is to admit - the better team. League table doesn't lie. 

To be fair it often does. Mancs finished ahead of us.

[Bobby Hundreds]

I hope Klopp isn't his usual conservative self with team selection and picks players that he trusts but are square pegs in round holes. Mac Allister needs to be an 8, start Endo its why he's been bought.

 

They will score absolutely just don't let them do it in the first 15 minutes. Our players need to be clinical when the chances arrive because they won't arrive often. I cant stand the club formally known as Newcastle and now they are Saudi FC I like them even less but fair play to them as a side they are very good, bought well and are coached well though last season where the most disgusting example of anti football I've ever seen in my life. 

[Mook]

6 hours ago, LFC 6 Times said:

To be fair it often does. Mancs finished ahead of us.

 

That was no lie, we were absolute dogshit for the vast majority of last season & they were better than us.

[Section_31]

8 hours ago, johnsusername said:

Newcastle finished above us in the league. They are - are hard as it is to admit - the better team. League table doesn't lie. 

 

Nah no chance. We had a shite season but they've got nowhere near our levels of quality. We should be thumping these wobbly spuggie cunts 4-nil.

[Kevin D]

16 minutes ago, Mook said:

 

That was no lie, we were absolute dogshit for the vast majority of last season & they were better than us.

The season we ended up a point behind City and won the Champions League was a bit of a lie.

 

We were the best team in the world and they got away with one, IMO.

[Captain Willard]

I’m dreading this. If they get an early goal and the crowd get behind their team it could be horrible. It’s a tough place to go. I’d settle for a draw

[TD_LFC]

10 hours ago, johnsusername said:

League table doesn't lie. 

 

Bit of a fallacy, the table often lies, it did massively for Newcastle during the Pardew era for example (or Klopps last year in Dortmund).

 

 

[TD_LFC]

Man United would be the outlier in last years table but that may be skewed by a couple of heavy defeats.

[Carvalho Diablo]

I'd play Darwin up front in this.

 

We can probably expect to be playing on the break for most of the game and that's Darwin's game to a tee; play quick passes over the top into space for him to run on to.

[Reckoner]

5 hours ago, TD_LFC said:

 

Bit of a fallacy, the table often lies, it did massively for Newcastle during the Pardew era for example (or Klopps last year in Dortmund).

 

 

Absolute rubbish. 

[TD_LFC]

19 minutes ago, Reckoner said:

Absolute rubbish. 

 

Nope, low scoring. low number of games means statistically there's more scope for 'lying' within the table compared to other sports that become less predictable, the lie might not be huge every time but it can be.

 

Obviously a lot of those bigger lies filter out as the season progresses and game week 1 will show you a far less true picture than game week 38.

 

Pardew got an 8 year deal off one 5th place finish where they had a goal difference of +5 ( the 4 places above them finished on +25, +25, +56 and +64 and the two places below them finished on +19 and +10), they got there on the back of unsustainable numbers (including Papiss Cisse putting up a ridiculously high conversion percentages) that meant it wasn't repeatable or sustainable and the following season they finished in the bottom half with a -23 GD, the outcome isn't always truthful.

 

The reverse was true of Dortmund and Ian Grahams entire pitch to Klopp when considering the Liverpool job was based on the fact that the the performance and the outcome were mis-aligned and that despite the outcome the performances and underlying numbers were far more sustainable.

[redinblack]

Show them no fear and no respect. We play our game and we get after them.

[John102]

Whilst we are above Newcastle in the league right now, i'm a massive proponent of the 'league doesn't lie'.

 

We will snot them 1-0 after soaking up at least 85 mins of sustained attacks.

[Reckoner]

1 hour ago, TD_LFC said:

 

Nope, low scoring. low number of games means statistically there's more scope for 'lying' within the table compared to other sports that become less predictable, the lie might not be huge every time but it can be.

 

Obviously a lot of those bigger lies filter out as the season progresses and game week 1 will show you a far less true picture than game week 38.

 

Pardew got an 8 year deal off one 5th place finish where they had a goal difference of +5 ( the 4 places above them finished on +25, +25, +56 and +64 and the two places below them finished on +19 and +10), they got there on the back of unsustainable numbers (including Papiss Cisse putting up a ridiculously high conversion percentages) that meant it wasn't repeatable or sustainable and the following season they finished in the bottom half with a -23 GD, the outcome isn't always truthful.

 

The reverse was true of Dortmund and Ian Grahams entire pitch to Klopp when considering the Liverpool job was based on the fact that the the performance and the outcome were mis-aligned and that despite the outcome the performances and underlying numbers were far more sustainable.

Performance and outcome being ‘misaligned’ over 38 games means performances weren’t good enough in some aspect. Teams shouldn’t get points just for having a talented squad or playing pretty football.

[Denny Crane]

Feel dirty saying this but been impressed by Howe - I guess when your head is on the chopping block it helps keep you focused. Noticed, Tonali, Gordon and Guimaraes have already picked up two yellows each and nobody committed more fouls than Joelinton last season. Will be a big physical and niggly test for Endo, Dom and Mac Allister. With Konate out need a commanding performance from Van Dijk.

 

From the clips I saw Endo won a lot of soft and clever fouls in Germany be interesting to see if it plays out the same way here (doubtful). 

[an tha]

Even in our current less than our best state I don't believe these are better than us....

 

But that said it is an away game and sadly I don't have massive trust in us to win anywhere away in the league as evidenced by our away form.

 

Last 20 away games in PL....

 

Won 6

Drawn 6

Lost 8

GS 30

GA 31

GD -1

PTS 24

 

That is a terrible record. 

 

Get it improved tomorrow, red men.

[Bruce Spanner]

Get in, smash the cunts, grab a geordie hewwer and a parmo at the Bigg Market and get the fuck outta Dodge.

[Joey8FrogsLegs]

11 hours ago, TD_LFC said:

 

Bit of a fallacy, the table often lies, it did massively for Newcastle during the Pardew era for example (or Klopps last year in Dortmund).

 

 

Great news for Everton this!

[Joey8FrogsLegs]

Watched these against Villa. Villa is a pretty decent team, and looked decent against these as well. But the Saudis absolutely tore them apart on the break. Every time Villa got caught high up the pitch the Saudis looked lethal.

 

Not looking forwards to this at all, if we get it wrong tactically it could be ugly.

[Section_31]

Dunno what I'm missing here but why are People shitting one about playing these clowns? 

[Joey8FrogsLegs]

8 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

Dunno what I'm missing here but why are People shitting one about playing these clowns? 

The fact that any half decent team can cut right through us with ease when we’re caught high up the field?

[Red Shift]

15 hours ago, Bobby Hundreds said:

I hope Klopp isn't his usual conservative self with team selection and picks players that he trusts but are square pegs in round holes. Mac Allister needs to be an 8, start Endo its why he's been bought.

 

They will score absolutely just don't let them do it in the first 15 minutes. Our players need to be clinical when the chances arrive because they won't arrive often. I cant stand the club formally known as Newcastle and now they are Saudi FC I like them even less but fair play to them as a side they are very good, bought well and are coached well though last season where the most disgusting example of anti football I've ever seen in my life. 

Can’t call em Geordies anymore.

I’ll go with Gaudies.