Does supporting Liverpool give you pleasure?

[Hades]

We support a club that regularly finishes around 5-6 in a top league, not fucking Port Vale or something. People talking about having no hope and being sick and tired of it, pipe down.

 

3 Stacks: "How am I doing, boss?"

 

John Henry: "You're doing a great job, son. A great job."

 

[ngogswilly]

Same as a few others in here. Its just locked into me now. I'm like Al Pacino. "Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in" is the history of my love affair with football and Liverpool football club.

 

These days I genuinely derive very little pleasure as I honestly believe FSG have no interest in providing the club with the means to compete at the top. They'll do enough to keep us in that 8-4 position finish which gives us hope of a CL spot but we'll never win the league nor win much else under their ownership.

 

If we were doing everything possible within our means to compete i might have more faith.

[razor]

The negativity on this thread is misleading.  Probably because the question is inadvertently weighted due to it being the off-season, and one characterised by frustration at that.

 

Come back in 5 weeks time and the true negativity will be off the scale.

[razor]

We support a club that regularly finishes around 5-6 in a top league, not fucking Port Vale or something. People talking about having no hope and being sick and tired of it, pipe down.

 

Exhibit A for those who are not sure if this poster is a troll.

[Joe Strummer]

Enormous fucking pleasure when we win. Even more so these days when i see how happy it also makes my son and in the years to come my other younger son. When we lose i want to smash things and the disappointment lingers for days, strangely this gets worse despite getting older, having kids etc. I also take great pleasure when beating those idiots across the park as their jealousy and bitterness has no bounds.

[Bjornebye]

To be honest this is a ridiculous thread. Just fucking look below you and tell me you wouldn't go into battle for this regardless of the signings, selling's, boards, seating arrangements, doughnuts or fucking yachts. If you wouldn't then you don't belong here. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[3 Stacks]

Exhibit A for those who are not sure if this poster is a troll.

 

I'm dead serious about 20% of the time, but this is one of those times.

 

Also, shut the fuck up.

[razor]

3 Piles.

[VladimirIlyich]

I don't care about all these transfers that are causing people's heads to explode. I've hardly seen the players we are bidding for,although when watching RB Leipzig I watched the team more than Keita. It seems the only way we will be successful is to have Russian gangsters or Arab money launderers as owners and that's not for me.

[1892-LFCWasBorn]

 

How can this not give you pleasure?

[Faustus]

See, this thread is what does my head in about a lot of our fanbase; this nonchalant 4chan-esque cynicism that seems to permeate every single discourse. It's not even exclusive to the internet, but it's this seemingly casual aloofness that actually takes a lot of work to maintain. I just find it fucking boring; like a perpetual Four Yorkshireman sketch in action that's ceased to be funny. Being involved in academia in relation to literature and film, it's something I've noticed there; how everything is apparently shit, and people crawl over broken glass to proclaim it so. From that, I can only assume it's an attitude that's somehow acceptable now. I actually love meeting people who are passionate about stuff and unashamedly so, even if whatever it is they're into isn't my cup of tea. I just find it refreshing.

 

Don't get me wrong, I can only echo a lot of the 'modern football is shit' thread and I even nod about a lot of the gripes about the behind the scenes stuff on this thread, but it all boils down to that 90 minutes, doesn't it? There's a purity about it and that's what grabs you. It's what dug its claws into you as a kid and it's what continues to gnaw at you. It's inescapable. When you stop finding yourself interested in that- actually just watching it as a spectacle- that's when it's probably time to check out.

 

Yeah, I fucking love Liverpool. For all the shite, I genuinely think supporting them has enriched my life. There are ace people I know who I know I wouldn't have met if it wasn't for a mutual interest in Liverpool. A lad I count as one of my best friends, I was asked at a mutual mate's wedding a few years back if I wouldn't mind hanging around with him as he didn't know anybody there and was given the selling point by the groom, "he likes a bev and he loves the reds." Good enough for me. The ups and downs results-wise I feel has shaped me also, to never get too down and even to take a win with a pinch of salt; everything comes in waves and you have to go with it. I'd also say Bill Shankly is one of my inspirations. Just a fucking great man with a phenomenal attitude. His line about equating his football philosophy and socialism is fucking beautiful, as is his comment about if he were a road sweeper he'd want his roads to be the cleanest in the city. Even take them out of the context of football, they're sentiments I try to live my life by.

 

Even with family members, there are some I have absolutely fuck all in common with aside from Liverpool, so it's the go-to point of conversation. I loved the Rev's comment on the previous page about how he loves watching the games with his lad, and that's what's it about for me: that sense of community, that mutual bonding that very little else can give you.

 

Last season, one of my favourite moments was going to the Arsenal game at Anfield last season. As it was a late game, my mate belled us saying that he and his missus managed to get tickets and asked if I fancied a pint and a scran before the game. Had a few jars in the Excelsior in town and a boss meal in there, the teams came through on my mate's blower along with the comment 'reeks of a Liverpool win this'. After the game, met up again for a beer, absolutely buzzing off the result and each other's company. Just one of those occasions when everything falls into place and you think to yourself, 'this is fucking class'.

 

Yeah, put aside all the off pitch stuff, all the snide comments and the 'too cool for school' attitude, all the commercialised bollocks that I can rant with the best of, if you strip it down, I'm just left with the sentiments that I love football and I love Liverpool.

[stringvest]

You can't beat it as a day out when the result has been a good one, and the weather's been good.  Especially if ardja wears his gloves.

[Hades]

Here's Faustus to do his usual 'my life's great, why isn't yours' bollocks.

[3 Stacks]

Here's Faustus to do his usual 'my life's great, why isn't yours' bollocks.

 

You're such a loser.

[Hades]

You're such a loser.

Back to the kiddies pen you cheerleading bore.

[3 Stacks]

Back to the kiddies pen you cheerleading bore.

 

Some people manage to be somewhat endearing despite being negative. You are not one of those people. You're depressing and annoying. 

[thegreatelephant]

oh oh oh 

oh oh oh

 

Liverpool

 

we're never gonna stop

[Hades]

Some people manage to be somewhat endearing despite being negative. You are not one of those people. You're depressing and annoying. 

 

That's a compliment coming from you. Thanks.

[Ginny]

Haha proper dramatic in here isn't it

[VladimirIlyich]

See, this thread is what does my head in about a lot of our fanbase; this nonchalant 4chan-esque cynicism that seems to permeate every single discourse. It's not even exclusive to the internet, but it's this seemingly casual aloofness that actually takes a lot of work to maintain. I just find it fucking boring; like a perpetual Four Yorkshireman sketch in action that's ceased to be funny. Being involved in academia in relation to literature and film, it's something I've noticed there; how everything is apparently shit, and people crawl over broken glass to proclaim it so. From that, I can only assume it's an attitude that's somehow acceptable now. I actually love meeting people who are passionate about stuff and unashamedly so, even if whatever it is they're into isn't my cup of tea. I just find it refreshing.

 

Don't get me wrong, I can only echo a lot of the 'modern football is shit' thread and I even nod about a lot of the gripes about the behind the scenes stuff on this thread, but it all boils down to that 90 minutes, doesn't it? There's a purity about it and that's what grabs you. It's what dug its claws into you as a kid and it's what continues to gnaw at you. It's inescapable. When you stop finding yourself interested in that- actually just watching it as a spectacle- that's when it's probably time to check out.

 

Yeah, I fucking love Liverpool. For all the shite, I genuinely think supporting them has enriched my life. There are ace people I know who I know I wouldn't have met if it wasn't for a mutual interest in Liverpool. A lad I count as one of my best friends, I was asked at a mutual mate's wedding a few years back if I wouldn't mind hanging around with him as he didn't know anybody there and was given the selling point by the groom, "he likes a bev and he loves the reds." Good enough for me. The ups and downs results-wise I feel has shaped me also, to never get too down and even to take a win with a pinch of salt; everything comes in waves and you have to go with it. I'd also say Bill Shankly is one of my inspirations. Just a fucking great man with a phenomenal attitude. His line about equating his football philosophy and socialism is fucking beautiful, as is his comment about if he were a road sweeper he'd want his roads to be the cleanest in the city. Even take them out of the context of football, they're sentiments I try to live my life by.

 

Even with family members, there are some I have absolutely fuck all in common with aside from Liverpool, so it's the go-to point of conversation. I loved the Rev's comment on the previous page about how he loves watching the games with his lad, and that's what's it about for me: that sense of community, that mutual bonding that very little else can give you.

 

Last season, one of my favourite moments was going to the Arsenal game at Anfield last season. As it was a late game, my mate belled us saying that he and his missus managed to get tickets and asked if I fancied a pint and a scran before the game. Had a few jars in the Excelsior in town and a boss meal in there, the teams came through on my mate's blower along with the comment 'reeks of a Liverpool win this'. After the game, met up again for a beer, absolutely buzzing off the result and each other's company. Just one of those occasions when everything falls into place and you think to yourself, 'this is fucking class'.

 

Yeah, put aside all the off pitch stuff, all the snide comments and the 'too cool for school' attitude, all the commercialised bollocks that I can rant with the best of, if you strip it down, I'm just left with the sentiments that I love football and I love Liverpool.

I am genuinely glad you still enjoy it. It's simply 90 minutes for me and then its back to the humdrum of life. It simply isn't the same sport I grew up watching and the sky high cost of watching and the 24 hours a day borefest of transfer rumours and all that stuff actually turns me off instead of exciting me as its supposed to. It would be nice if the bubble burst regarding all the showbiz around it and we could get back to what its all about,the game and the fans,but it may have gone too far.

[Barrington Womble]

It definitely isn't the same for me anymore and I get less out of it than I should for the time given. For me though it's just not been the same since we have had American owners. I just don't feel this is a club that wants to dream and be that club Shanks built. I get more from seeing my mates on match day than I do from the supporting us.

[Herp McDerp]

One of the few things left that lifts me out of general state of apathy I'm mired in these days. Had a scan a while back and it picked something up, was inconclusive so required more tests, I genuinely wouldn't have given a shit had I been told I'd have only a year left. And yet reading that Joe Gomez might be our Plan b if the VVD deal doesn't go through and than seeing one of the forum cocknuggets trying to spin it into a positive makes me want to strangle kittens.

 

Also happy when we win obviously.

 

And when Lallana has a shit game, as I know it winds Stringy up.

[Anubis]

I'm dead serious about 20% of the time, but this is one of those times.

 

Also, shut the fuck up.

 

It's a forum on the internet. For expressing opinions whether you like them or not. It's not your living room.

[razor]

Some people manage to be somewhat endearing despite being negative. You are not one of those people. You're depressing and annoying. 

 

Whereas you are interesting, engaging, warm and friendly.

 

Your knowledge of football is the best I've ever come across.

 

You are a credit to the people of Canada.

 

 

 

PS  I hear Chelsea have a great team this year.  And they also really appreciate an erudite sporting genius with a congenial disposition on their message boards.  Just saying.

[Juniper]

In all honesty not much pleasure comes from following the team. From a football perspective it's the same old issues and mistakes no matter who the manager/players are each season. Now I'm just cynical despite form and results and expecting a blip as the same most seasons.

 

Until recent months I used to work with the club as one of their suppliers, worked with them heavily at Chapel Street, Anfield, Melwood, the London commercial office, the Academy...etc for 6 years and the changes in terms of their infrastructure and attitude towards the end of that relationship (not for the better) has changed my perspective also. Difficult not to really.

 

Still a supporter and the only team I follow but I don't feel the same way about the club as years previous, nor football in general really. I'll probably go to the odd away game but the club aren't having my money anymore.

 

Game full of cunts.