Grenfall Tower Fire

[Pureblood]

I'm hopeful the world has moved on from the 80's and there'll be transparency and focus keeping it 'honest'.

 

The world has moved backwards and the result is Grenfell Tower.

[deiseach]

I'm not appealing to authority I'm acknowledging his credentials. It's not started yet and you've written it off as a whitewash and citing a report from the 80's.

If you think the Widgery Tribunal took place in the 80's there is no point in engaging with you any further.

[Rico1304]

If you think the Widgery Tribunal took place in the 80's there is no point in engaging with you any further.

Ha, it's fucking older than me!!!

[AngryOfTuebrook]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/grenfell-tower-fire-risk-assessor-carl-stokes-buried-fire-risk-report-kensington-and-chelsea-tenant-a7819386.html

 

Fire consultant Carl Stokes was paid £244,318 over seven years as fire risk assessor for Kensington and Chelsea Tenant Management Organisation (KCTMO), according to documents seen by Inside Housing.

 

And ​Mr Stokes advised the organisation that they did not have to disclose safety risks and risk being obliged to deploy expensive “additional fire safety measures”, the Mail on Sunday reported.

 

A Fire Risk Assessment for Grenfell Tower submitted by Mr Stokes to KCTMO in November 2012 suggested burying the report because the London Fire Brigade “have the power to undertake an audit of the fire risk assessment to determine if it is suitable and sufficient or not.”

 

Mr Stokes was recommended to KCTMO directors by housing official Janice Wray as “willing to challenge the fire brigade on our behalf if he considered their [safety] requirements to be excessive.”

[Skidfingers McGonical]

If that's true, then it appears Gove was right. They'd had enough of experts.

[Rico1304]

Balanced piece.

 

http://counselofperfection.blogspot.co.uk/2017/07/grenfell-tower-what-lends-legitimacy.html?m=1

[Pureblood]

Balanced piece.

 

http://counselofperfection.blogspot.co.uk/2017/07/grenfell-tower-what-lends-legitimacy.html?m=1

 

It doesn't read in a very balanced way.  It reads like a staunch defence of the appointment of Sir Martin Moore-Bick, with a nod towards increasing legal aid funding to give it a conscionable sheen.  

[Rico1304]

It doesn't read in a very balanced way.  It reads like a staunch defence of the appointment of Sir Martin Moore-Bick, with a nod towards increasing legal aid funding to give it a conscionable sheen.

 

Opinions heh? You see what you want to see.

[Pureblood]

Excellent read.

[setreal]

Fail on a plate.

[Rico1304]

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2017/07/grenfell-inquiry-critics-martin-moore-bick-are-dabbling-fearmongering

[Remmie]

Apologies if already posted:

 

[Anubis]

Hmmmmm....

 

[Guest Pistonbroke]

That's the Tory cunts for ya. 

[magicrat]

Hmmmmm....

 

 

They could have simplified the whole survey and just asked " How important is it for Conservative party candidates to tell the truth on a scale of

1-10   ?"

[Qwikage]

Hmmmmm....

 

 

 

Is this the Tories latest attempt at consensus politics? 

What happens if the answers show a wish for better refuse collection than dealing with affordable housing? If it's a draw do they fit out refuse bins and market them as Bijou apartments and offer them to the Grenfell residents before proclaiming they have rehoused them all locally?

How on earth is the amoebic individual who thought of this survey even still in employment? 

[Guest Pistonbroke]

They won't take a blind bit of notice on the outcome of the Survey anyway. 

[Rick Sanchez C-137]

They won't take a blind bit of notice on the outcome of the Survey anyway. 

 

The area with the least votes will get the axe each week via severe cuts. Like Big Brother, only with people lives.

[A Red]

I volunteered our holiday properties for Grenfall victims so that they can come and have a free holiday in Cornwall in November or February. No takers, can you fucking believe it?

[Guest Pistonbroke]

Nice gesture mate. Maybe they have been occupied with other things though and not everyone takes the offer of Charity up. These people lost everything, a free holiday is nice but they still need transport to and from, clothes, spending money, the time etc etc. I'm guessing they have been quite busy trying to get their lives back to some sort of normality and getting basic things sorted. 

 

You may still get takers if the offer is an open one. 

[Rico1304]

Did you see the cunt who pretended he’d lost his wife and kids in the fire? He got sent down a few weeks ago.

[A Red]

Nice gesture mate. Maybe they have been occupied with other things though and not everyone takes the offer of Charity up. You may still get takers if the offer is an open one. 

To be fair, they've been through enough without having to contemplate Cornwall in November and February

[Rick Sanchez C-137]

Did you see the cunt who pretended he’d lost his wife and kids in the fire? He got sent down a few weeks ago.

 

I was considering it for a holiday in Cornwall until you shamed the idea.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

Did you see the cunt who pretended he’d lost his wife and kids in the fire? He got sent down a few weeks ago.

I heard a whisper that the fire consultant who deemed the place safe could be facing some time. It'd be nice if they ended up as cellmates.

[Bjornebye]

Nasty looking fire in a block of flats just outside Belfast right now. Hopefully no fatalities but it looks pretty bad