Should Corbyn remain as Labour leader?

[Numero Veinticinco]

Judaism is a religion though. If I was born from Jewish decent but am a Christian am I still a Jew?

It’s an ethnoreligious group,

[Anny Road]

So not a race?

[Numero Veinticinco]

It’s a race. It’ll take you two minutes to google this, to be fair.

[Section_31]

Is Luciana Berger Jewish?

[Numero Veinticinco]

Yep.

[grimble]

Zionism is not a race, it’s a movement. Therefore what Corbyn has said today cannot be racist, it can only be movist, and that’s not even a word, so whatever Strontium Knob is so desperate to leap upon today has to be filed under Piss Right Off I’m afraid.

[Anny Road]

Are

 

It’s a race. It’ll take you two minutes to google this, to be fair.

If I convert to Judaism does that mean I'm a Jew?

[Numero Veinticinco]

You’d be a religious Jew without Yichus following official convertion. Although SD might (or might not, being a Jew who isn’t religious) be anle to tell you more, I’m not a Jew... so.

 

Can we just skip to the end of this where you find out that race doesn’t just refer to biology?

[Boss]

Don't get me wrong if there was real, legitimate Anti Semitism at play... say for instance Corbyn had a rally and said "The Jews are our misfortune" then i'd say fair play to the people that vilify him, but there's really nothing there. It's reaching to delusional levels to implant spurious allegations where there aren't any, and the public aren't stupid, they can see through it. It's actually his enemies who give him more strength by reaching to such preposterous levels. They always have to go one step further, not realising they've entered farce, and destroy their own credibility in doing so. 

[grimble]

What about Jewish people like myself who are not zionists? Which race am I? I’m confused.

[Numero Veinticinco]

What about Jewish people like myself who are not zionists? Which race am I? I’m confused.

Belgian.

[ZonkoVille77]

What about Jewish people like myself who are not zionists? Which race am I? I’m confused.

 

100m hurdle race.

[Anny Road]

You’d be a religious Jew without Yichus following official convertion.

 

Can we just skip to the end of this where you find out that race doesn’t just refer to biology?

No i'm genuinely interested because I've never had or known anyone who has had a prejudice against Jews.

They seem pretty insular and I suspect they are more outwardly prejudiced than they receive. Not in a violence or hatred manner but in a social and cultural sense. 

For instance what differentiates a Jew living in Childwall from Bob who has converted to Judaism and lives in Childwall?

[Skidfingers McGonical]

It’s an ethnoreligious group,

That’s an ecumenical matter.

[aRdja]

No i'm genuinely interested because I've never had or known anyone who has had a prejudice against Jews.

They seem pretty insular and I suspect they are more outwardly prejudiced than they receive. Not in a violence or hatred manner but in a social and cultural sense.

For instance what differentiates a Jew living in Childwall from Bob who has converted to Judaism and lives in Childwall?

My brother married a Jewish girl. His kids are by default Jewish I’m pretty sure. The wife is a practising jew, my brother isn’t a man of religion, the kids are still small but I *think* whether they end up practicing or not, they’ll still be considered Jewish, because of her mum. I’ve been told that it doesn’t work if it was the other way around though.

[Section_31]

What about Jewish people like myself who are not zionists? Which race am I? I’m confused.

Hassidim but a don't believe'em

[Rico1304]

David Schneider has been quoted in this thread as voice of reason. Here’s his take;

 

https://twitter.com/davidschneider/status/1033045924895965184?s=21

[moof]

Pay your subs you cheap cunt

[moof]

Who called him a voice of reason? I love his work but he’s been a bit hysterical throughout all of this nonsense.

[Anny Road]

My brother married a Jewish girl. His kids are by default Jewish I’m pretty sure. The wife is a practising jew, my brother isn’t a man of religion, the kids are still small but I *think* whether they end up practicing or not, they’ll still be considered Jewish, because of her mum. I’ve been told that it doesn’t work if it was the other way around though.

I learned that at school that Jewishness is passed through the matriarch.

If my mum was Jewish and my Dad was from pigmy Amazon rainforests that makes me more Jewish than if my Dad had the Curly hair thing and my mum was a Christian from a posh Tel Aviv suburb.

Is that weird or predacious. A bit racist. And inherent in the culture.

[cloggypop]

I used to go out with a Jewish girl and her dad fucking hated me.

[Gnasher]

You're the only cunt here, and now we can add raging antisemite to the list.

???

 

Windrush. The real issue, the real facts (people being deported) the real.people suffering, you self obsessed whinging cunt.

[Gnasher]

I blame the coons and the niggers for all this unveiling of bogus racist actions.

 

A good smokescreen of millionaires doners to the friends of bibi the cunt being upstaged by real people in all our community being deported and told to fuck off right before our eyes.

 

These coons and woggs make Margret Hodge and crew look like the cunts they are.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

Is it okay to make comments about Jews being aliens if you're only referring to some Jews, then?

The by-now-cliched line of attack against Corbyn: pretend he did something, then rhetorically ask "Is it OK to do that?"

[AngryOfTuebrook]

Here come the hair-splitting crew, right on cue.

 

"Zionists have no sense of English irony" is clearly intended to mark this subset of Jews out as something other than English. And that's even giving the benefit of the doubt that it wasn't a dog whistle.

He didn't say that.

 

He said that the specific people in the audience at an earlier event showed an ironic failure to grasp a non-English person's attempt at "English irony".