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I'm pleased with Rodgers but have concerns that our midfield isn't strong enough and that holding on to leads will become more difficult as the seasons progresses and teams figure us out. I'm still of the opinion that Lucas, Henderson and Allen are not quite boss enough (though Henderson in particular has deffo improved) to enable us to compete properly. Overall though I'm up for giving him time to get us back on our fucking perch. I also like the fella.

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I'm pleased with Rodgers but have concerns that our midfield isn't strong enough and that holding on to leads will become more difficult as the seasons progresses and teams figure us out. I'm still of the opinion that Lucas, Henderson and Allen are not quite boss enough (though Henderson in particular has deffo improved) to enable us to compete properly. Overall though I'm up for giving him time to get us back on our fucking perch. I also like the fella.

 

I wouldn't worry about grinding out wins. We've got Suarez to come back, Moses to offer pace out wide, and Coutinho to move central. We've got a team with lots of goals in it. No danger, we'll score more in the coming weeks.

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I'm pleased with Rodgers but have concerns that our midfield isn't strong enough and that holding on to leads will become more difficult as the seasons progresses and teams figure us out.

 

I think part of that illusion that we have to grind out wins is because of the problem we have with Suarez being out, Sturridge not 100% fit and playing every game, and the lack of cover out wide which forces Coutinho out wide.

 

In short, we haven't attacked very well this season, it's been a bit fast and loose.

 

Teams won't have the run of the game when we can incluse Moses and Suarez in our side, and with Coutinho in the middle. They can attack us at their peril because we're going to break all over them.

 

I agree, if we keep on playing this game of chance with 1-0 wins then we will come unstuck, you can't defend against every eventuality, the law of averages says that someone will find a way through.

 

I've been underwhelmed by Aspas so far, he seems like a passenger, and his form has been part of the reason that we've failed to be a real threat to teams on the break and have had to soak up all this pressure.

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I understand and to a point agree with you both but I'm still concerned that our midfield misses a commanding presence particularly if Stevie's out or has a poor game.

 

I agree with that. We need two first team players, in my opinion. Firstly, a DM/CM and a Inside Forward. If we do that without losing anybody significant, I think we can really push into the top 3.

 

I said a while ago that I think we need seven players. We're down to 2. That's progress. But we now must, must, must concentrate on just high quality over quantity.

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Brendan is just keeping the seat warm until Code72 steps up to the plate and makes us Kings of Europe again. I personally can't wait to see Voronin back in the side and the return of the Carroll/Downing axis of goalscoring ecstasy. Please make it happen Code mate, I can't wait for another league cup win!!

 

Oh and Coutinho shipped out of course.

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Brendan is just keeping the seat warm until Code72 steps up to the plate and makes us Kings of Europe again. I personally can't wait to see Voronin back in the side and the return of the Carroll/Downing axis of goalscoring ecstasy. Please make it happen Code mate, I can't wait for another league cup win!!

 

Oh and Coutinho shipped out of course.

And the other 'nothing players' like Sterling and Luis Alberto (he had 10 minutes to prove himself already, how much more does he need?) will be off. Enlgand's future left back, Paul Konchesky will be in too. Can't wait.

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I understand and to a point agree with you both but I'm still concerned that our midfield misses a commanding presence particularly if Stevie's out or has a poor game.

 

I also agree, and I think that this will be the next thing addressed by Rodgers. It may mean that we use money from a Suarez sale to address it, but every cloud...

 

There were noises in the last 48 hours of the window that we were interested in a midfield option, I'm not sure how accurate that was though.

 

I think there's some time now for Allen and Henderson to prove that they are worthy of starting positions, and Rodgers has certainly shown with Borini that he's prepared to swallow his pride and deal with one of his signings that isn't pulling their weight. Allen has so much potential, as does Borini, I truly believe that.

 

But if they don't perform on demand then they aren't going to stick around long.

 

What sort of midfield option would you like?

 

The thing with our midfielders, and indeed with the 4-3-3, is that they can't be specialists really. Perhaps a defensive midfielder, but ideally they can turn their hand to anything.

 

Sometimes you find answers in the most unlikely of places, look at Borja Valero's rise from fringe WBA player to key La Liga midfielder. Leon Britton at Swansea, who previously had done little of note to show that potential at other teams.

 

 

I think physicality is a must in this division though. It's not La Liga, refs don't blow for everything.

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Insane. No other word to describe it.

 

He could be wrong, but he's normally right. At least we won't have to worry about signing players like Tevez.

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Our next 3 or 4 games are very winable and the next few games will tell us a lot about our team, we would normally fuck up in a couple of these games and throw away points, lets hope it different this season.

 

On Rodgers Ive said before I love the guy and his football philosophy and hope to have him for years and years to come.

 

Ive been thinking a while he has a test that's going to come up sooner or later and that is mourinho. They seem to have good relationship but when the time comes that mourinho says some bollocks about us after a loss or draw I expect Rodgers like any manager to defend his club and tell mourinho to fuck off.

 

After the way Rodgers dealt with the Suarez ban I fully expect him to do so, one things for sure I cant see them maintaining there good relationship if Rodgers is here for years.

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What sort of midfield option would you like?

 

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Bollocks just typed a big reply and Internet froze. The gist: hendo and Lucas (& Allen) are good honest players but not the great we need to be proper contenders. Not sure who as I don't watch a lot of footy other than us. Masch and Alonso from 4 years ago!

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Bollocks just typed a big reply and Internet froze. The gist: hendo and Lucas (& Allen) are good honest players but not the great we need to be proper contenders. Not sure who as I don't watch a lot of footy other than us. Masch and Alonso from 4 years ago!

 

Does the system allow for a 'great' player?

 

Someone like Luka Modric would be great for us, but not necessarily 'great' in the pantheon of Lampard, Gerrard, Di Rossi, Vieira, Keane. Not an all action blunderbuss.

 

Xavi is the type of 'great' we need, a busy player with real quality who can time a challenge and spot a pass through someone's legs when we need to break a team down.

 

Fabregas as well, that sort of player.

 

I'd love to have someone like Diame but who is intelligent and can work in a unit. But those sort of players seem to be lone rangers, and we can't have that, everyone needs to be working together and filling in for each other across the width of the pitch when necessary.

 

I think we'll be after Will Hughes, though much will depend on what he does this season. He's another all-rounder, nothing spectacular.

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He's still got everything to prove but since January he's done very little wrong at all. No coincidence it coincided with him deploying a bit of pragmatism by dropping the possession at all costs shite, playing a brand of football that suited our key players & signing a few good players. If he'd done that from the off we might have been in the champions league this year. Imagine the difference Sturridge could have made instead of the exciting Borini. The fact that we could have been challenging so quickly is a testament to how quickly things have been changed around.

 

Very happy to have him carry on with his good work to date.

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Agree about the Borini/Sturridge choice last Summer. You do have to wonder how a player is scouted, on this occasion by Rodgers. Lunacy when Borini wasn't cheap and hadn't played many games at a top level. Bit like the Carroll abomination. One thing I think is a bit cheap is the retrospective criticism of comments like Rodgers labelling Borini's signing 'exciting'. We all know Borini has a long way to go to prove anything of the sort but was Rodgers really meant to talk about his new signing to the press as being 'a wee bit shite with his finishing', 'made of water biscuits', 'devastatingly lightweight' or had 'goal-targetting issues'.

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He's still got everything to prove but since January he's done very little wrong at all. No coincidence it coincided with him deploying a bit of pragmatism by dropping the possession at all costs shite, playing a brand of football that suited our key players & signing a few good players. If he'd done that from the off we might have been in the champions league this year. Imagine the difference Sturridge could have made instead of the exciting Borini. The fact that we could have been challenging so quickly is a testament to how quickly things have been changed around.

 

Very happy to have him carry on with his good work to date.

 

The key with him was always going to be, can he learn? We knew he wasn't ready for the job when he got it. The question was always, can he become good enough? And if so, how quickly?

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He's still got everything to prove but since January he's done very little wrong at all. No coincidence it coincided with him deploying a bit of pragmatism by dropping the possession at all costs shite, playing a brand of football that suited our key players & signing a few good players. If he'd done that from the off we might have been in the champions league this year. Imagine the difference Sturridge could have made instead of the exciting Borini. The fact that we could have been challenging so quickly is a testament to how quickly things have been changed around.

 

Very happy to have him carry on with his good work to date.

 

We'd finished 8th when he took over, with a squad full of overpaid and underperforming shite that had been in freefall for 6 months and ended on our lowest ever Premier League points total. Top 4 was never on the cards last season, whoever our manager was or whatever tactics he'd employed.

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I'm on board for now anyway, talks a bit much but I can live with that. I definitely want a very hard push for top 4 this summer and anything short of that would be pushing it.

 

He needs to address the fitness of the team though because we've looked fucked in the 2nd half of every game so far and there is only so long you can ride your luck

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As Batigol put it above he has hardly put a foot wrong in 9 months and he still takes grief. Imagine the shitstorm if he actually made a mistake. How quick a lot of people were to jump on the Mignolet thing, it was fucking fantastic to see them all have to keep their gobs shut. I had a feeling about Rodgers within a short time of him being here that he was going to be successful here. There were some blips in the first few months that I didn't agree with. I honestly feel like he is on fire with his decision making at the moment. Whether it be tactics, team selection or player sales and purchases I find myself agreeing with him or the side I wanted to be picked being picked.

 

The "talks too much" or "Brent" thing is so fucking cliche now. He talks sense, full stop. I just don't get how some of our own fans can be against him. In any walk of life you can get people who talk a good game but can't walk the walk. At no point has he ever shown he cannot walk the walk. If things go wrong he holds his hands up. By and large for me the defeats we have received since he has took over have been down to circumstances out of his control. Literally every single one of them. For example the Notts County game. If we had lost that game plenty would have been on him in a shot. But what could they have said? He picked a strong line up. There is only so far he can go with the players he has. After a defeat I've never felt like I would have made different decisions or Rodgers could have and made different decisions throughout the game and it work out better. For the previous decade and more before then I always got that feeling.

 

Just to put this into context, look at the fucking state of Mourinho and he's only been back 5 minutes, Moyes is just as bad and Wenger looks like a nervous wreck. If Rodgers acted like any of them he would have been absolutely pasted by some people on here never mind by non fans of LFC.

 

I'm not saying he has been successful yet either because he hasn't. In terms of where the club was when he took over and the direction we are going in now he has done well. He's not successful until he wins trophies and gets us competing in the league. Although Kenny had guided us to a league cup win the club was in decline and Kenny didn't stop it. Whether he would have given more time I suppose we will never know. Rodgers, whether people want to believe it or not yet, has stopped the rot and I've got every faith in him that he will go a lot further than that.

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he's passed the first test as he's clearly improved the team while placing his own stamp on it. Now with increased expectations and something at stake we'll see how he can deal with the added pressure that comes along with that. He seems pretty level headed so I'm optimistic.

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