Pep Guardiola

[Guest ian garro]

Whilst he is an all-round likeable fella, he is to Barca, what Kenny is to us. Whether that would be transferrable, is a risk.

 

We have Kenny, what would be the point of the risk ?

[Major Tom]

Kenny is not exactly a serious long-term option. I can see him managing us 3-4 years but not a long stretch of 8-10 years.

 

Why not 8-10 years?

[emryscb]

Why not 8-10 years?

 

yes why not? ginsoak is 10 years older and still going

 

and to the op Kenny over Guardiola no question

[Gym Beglin]

Overrated manager with an exceptional team of players, many of which played together for years at youth and reserve level.

I imagine Guardiola spends 90 minutes telling Busquets what to do, and then lets the rest of the team do what they like.

[Monster Masch]

He'd be my first choice after Kenny.

[JohnnyH]

We have the manager of the greatest football side ever assembled managing us now.

 

I don’t agree with you there, but that would be for another thread.

 

However, if you are to stand back and try and be objective then Ant raises a very good discussion point. There could be a chance that this summer that we would have Kenny, Mourinho and Guardiola all available for the Liverpool job. If you remove thinking with the heart, then that’s a very difficult choice. Keeping in mind that one of Guardiola or Mourinho is probably going to end up as Man Utd manager. And if you are a pair of American businessmen who simply want the club to be massively successful thereby hugely improving revenues and making their business plan a success, then what decision do you come to?

[Archimede]

For me - If it came to Kenny or Mourinho. 10 out of 10 I pick Kenny. Id pick Mourinho over body else out there with the exception of...

 

Guardiola

guardiola would be ace - but I think as i have said before we need some one to be around for ten years to build a dynasty. Not someone who wants to move on home or to another league in 5 years.

 

so Without doubt Kenny..

 

for that

[gingerhulk]

Overrated manager with an exceptional team of players, many of which played together for years at youth and reserve level.

I imagine Guardiola spends 90 minutes telling Busquets what to do, and then lets the rest of the team do what they like.

 

What?

[Jonny83]

Guardiola is a fantastic manager, who embodies everything Barcelona.

 

We have a fantastic manager who embodies everything Liverpool.

 

A month ago, yes.

 

Right now, no.

 

So this, basically.

 

EDIT: And more specificially, this: (I should really start reading beyond the first page when replying)

 

Whilst he is an all-round likeable fella, he is to Barca, what Kenny is to us. Whether that would be transferrable, is a risk.

 

We have Kenny, what would be the point of the risk ?

[Guest Numero Veinticinco]

If we don't get into the Champions League, he won't want to join us. If we do get into the Champions League, Kenny will have worked a miracle and will have deserved the job.

[El Rojo]

If his agent approached the club we our response should be 'Kthnkxbye we have Kenny lol'.

 

Could see him becoming the world's highest paid manager at Citeh.

[Byrnie]

I don’t agree with you there, but that would be for another thread.

 

I obviously should have added 'in my opinion' at the end. The thing is, Guardiola would have to build the side here. He had more or less all the players there at his disposal. He has done an unbelievable job, mind and is clearly a top, top manager.

 

Also, my view is extremely biased too.

[Best Believe It]

Thing is, I don't think you can remove the heart from the equation. There isn't another manager who will, long-term, be assured of the support of the fans, and almost be assured that the players don't view themselves as above their stations.

 

Even if you could, in the cold light of day, remove Kenny from Liverpool and judge him as a manager against Guardiola or anyone else, it wouldn't be an indicator of who would be the better Liverpool manager. Because Kenny at Liverpool brings something extra out of him and out of us.

[Liquid football]

Mourinho is easily more impressive the Guardiola. Look at the squad Guardiola inherited at Barcelona, it was stupidly good. Until he faces the kind of tests that Mourinho has faced with the likes of Porto and Inter Milan then it's impossible to judge how good he is. I seriously doubt that if we could turn back the clock and let him live Mourinhos managerial career that he would have matched Mourinhos achievments at those same clubs. I'd put money on him failing to match Mourinho.

 

On the Kenny side of the equation - only a catastrophic decline during the rest of the season is the only thing that could put his job in jeopardy and that's not going to happen. He's simply the right man at the right time for us.

[Liquid football]

If we don't get into the Champions League, he won't want to join us. If we do get into the Champions League, Kenny will have worked a miracle and will have deserved the job.

 

That's a good point. Absolute zero chance of anyone getting a sniff if we get into the champions league and rightly so.

[Evil_Ways]

I Like Guardiola and his principles. I heard Henry give some insight to the way they play.

 

The way they put other teams under pressure when not in possession, within 3 seconds they have to put the other team under pressure. The way they play in possession, always creating triangles with the 3 closest players, when they receive the ball with their back to their opponents goal they have to play the ball on one touch. If they fail on those things apparently Guardiola goes crazy.

 

But i mean, how could you not give Kenny the job if we keep playing consistantly and see improvement...

[silverlining]

If we'd had this conversation two months ago, and asked TLW "Who would you prefer as manager, Kenny Dalglish or Pep Guardiola?", the answer would have been about 90% in favour of Guardiola.

 

And don't even bother arguing.

[Scott_M]

If he doesn't want to build a dynasty at 'his' club in Barcelona (ie:10 years), I can't see why he'd want to stick around longer with us or anybody else.

[RobbieOR]

If he doesn't want to build a dynasty at 'his' club in Barcelona (ie:10 years), I can't see why he'd want to stick around longer with us or anybody else.

 

Thats not a very good point. He's already won everything with Barca, so if he leaves it will because he needs a new challenge. Unless we become really good in the next few years, you cannot compare the two. It could well take us 4 or 5 years to get back on our perch, that could be a challenege that he would relish.

[Bobby Hundreds]

I'm ecstatic with Kenny. I don't see the need for change just for the sake of change. Pep is ace and I dont want to diminish what he has achieved but he easily has the best tools in the world at the minute at a club that fits him like a glove.

[INTORRESTING]

Would much rather have an empire built with Kenny than serve Maureen's ego. I don't think Maureen fits in with the owners ethos either.

 

Guardiola is an interesting one, I think I would want to see him at another club first!

[Xherdan]

I think this thread is more to do with Ant having an itchy ball sack. Wanting Benitez out for so long takes time to get over.

[Jim MM]

I'd stick with Kenny, he's started well and knows how LFC operates, it's in his blood. Guardiola benefits from the same kind of link with Barca and wouldn't have that here.

And Spanish football is a different beast, Rafa bossed La Liga in his day but took years trying to crack the Prem and ultimately failed. Ramos is another example. You could argue that Guardiola is a better coach but there's no guarantee that he'd adapt to a system he wasn't used to for decades.

[Jonas]

Why is Murhino brought into a discussion over Kenny/Pep? He cant even win la liga with Real Madrid. Hes a narcicistic dick and doesnt deserve to be mentionet among the two.

[silverlining]

Why is Murhino brought into a discussion over Kenny/Pep? He cant even win la liga with Real Madrid. Hes a narcicistic dick and doesnt deserve to be mentionet among the two.

 

Yeah. He's rubbish. He's only won every trophy in every league he's ever managed in, including two European cups.

 

You cock.