Cameron: "Cuts will change our way of life"

[Bobby Hundreds]

No government department can sustain a 25% to 40% cut. It isn't cutting to the bone. It's cutting through the bone and beyond. It's fucking mental.

 

Yeah 40 percent is mental but i'd at least seek reviews showing where money is being spent badly in many departments and where waste can be cut. Right across the board to politicians too and the house of lords. I'd definitely review how certain company's repeatedly get big government contracts despite having very poor previous records and not being the cheapest of options. Every penny should be accounted for and spent to benefit society in the best way possible not just to line the pockets of those who get to make the decisions, regardless of the impact of their choices.

[Anubis]

Yeah 40 percent is mental but i'd at least seek reviews showing where money is being spent badly in many departments and where waste can be cut. Right across the board to politicians too and the house of lords. I'd definitely review how certain company's repeatedly get big government contracts despite having very poor previous records and not being the cheapest of options. Every penny should be accounted for and spent to benefit society in the best way possible not just to line the pockets of those who get to make the decisions, regardless of the impact of their choices.

I agree with you about government contracts, and when I get the time I'll post some info about how much money Grayling pissed up the wall in his tenure at the MoJ. But I don't share your faith that it will stop them awarding contracts to these companies.

[Sugar Ape]

@SamCoatesTimes: Jeremy Corbyn wins the Labour leadership according to The Times / YouGov poll.

In the final round, Corbyn beats Burnham 53%v 47%

(1/4)

 

@SamCoatesTimes: YouGov: First preference votes amongst Labour members/supporters

11%: Kendall

20%: Cooper

26% Burnham

43%: Corbyn

(2/4)

 

@SamCoatesTimes: YouGov:

Some 20 per cent of Labour members polled say they are yet to make up their minds

(3/4)

 

@SamCoatesTimes: YouGov: Deputy leadership election. 1st prefs

42% Tom Watson

21% Stella Creasy

17% Caroline Flint

11% Ben Bradshaw

10% Angela Eagle

(4/4)

[Jairzinho]

No chance they'll let this happen. They'll kill him, I reckon.

[Red Phoenix]

No chance they'll let this happen. They'll kill him, I reckon.

 

You've been reading too many of my conspiracy posts.

 

edit : I meant that in a joking way, and I wouldn't put it past them. I was thinking more of a rigged/manipulated vote though, however they could manage it.

[Jairzinho]

Why bother? Just Kelly him.

[Red Phoenix]

Why bother? Just Kelly him.

 

One thing they could do is just leave him to it. Let him win it if he does, even let him become PM, then the EU suits, banksters, tabloids, IMF, corporations, and the rest of the minions will gather together and grind him down along with the rest of the Labour party, like they've done with Tsipras/Syriza. It sucks being this negative, but even if he got into power am just wondering how much he could actually change things with the way the system is so corrupted.

[Jairzinho]

You'd assume being the leader of the British government might hold a little more weight than that of Greece. But he won't be Labour leader anyway.

[Red Phoenix]

You'd assume being the leader of the British government might hold a little more weight than that of Greece. But he won't be Labour leader anyway.

 

Of course, but I wouldn't put anything past these people. Doing the same thing to a country like this might be just the type of sick game they'd be into. Saying that though, yeah you're probably right and they just won't allow it, because there's a chance he could start unravelling all of the fraudulent shit that's going on in the City of London. That's probably the main thing they'll be after keeping safe, and he could cause some real damage to them there (and in a few of their precious havens too.)

 

You know they've done a good number on us when it's so hard to even have any real hope, at least in this current system anyway, which is maybe why it really does need dismantling. Or transforming in such a way that if it ever worked, it'd be almost unrecognizable from what it is now.

[Champ]

No government department can sustain a 25% to 40% cut. It isn't cutting to the bone. It's cutting through the bone and beyond. It's fucking mental.

 

Those kind of figures are completely incompatible with his 'more for less' rhetoric. The only possible way of achieving those kind of cuts, because that's what they are, would surely be the scrapping of whole areas of government provision. I havent looked at the figures these sound to be on the scale of the ransom demanded by the EU from the Greek economy. Only in this scenario, it is being imposed by a government on its own people

[Stickman]

Would love Corbyn to win but why are the media believing this poll after the fuck up YouGov and the like made of the election?

[Champ]

Would love Corbyn to win but why are the media believing this poll after the fuck up YouGov and the like made of the election?

 

It doesnt matter to them whether its right or wrong, its providing them with the 'story' this morning.

 

Corbyn definitely represents my view of what Labour should stand for but like others have said, I cant see it happening

[Anubis]

It is a sad state of affairs when we are acknowledging that a party wouldn't honour the vote of its own members.

[Section_31]

Left wing labour MP etc

 

I do genuinely wonder why these people joined the labour party. What do they think it actually represents?

[VladimirIlyich]

Those kind of figures are completely incompatible with his 'more for less' rhetoric. The only possible way of achieving those kind of cuts, because that's what they are, would surely be the scrapping of whole areas of government provision. I havent looked at the figures these sound to be on the scale of the ransom demanded by the EU from the Greek economy. Only in this scenario, it is being imposed by a government on its own people

British people(the wealthy apart,of course) need protecting from their own government.

We have some outside protection,from the EU,but they are another gang of corrupt cunts yet still have plenty to learn from our twats.

[Stickman]

At least there are some decent Labour MP's with principles left..

 

Labour backbencher John McDonnell made his distaste for the Government's proposed welfare bill clear when he told MPs that he would "swim through vomit" to oppose it.

Amid the five-hour debate over the bill, which is designed to cut welfare spending by £12 billion, the MP for Hayes and Harlington announced:

"I would swim through vomit to vote against this bill. And listening to some of the nauseating speeches in support of it, I might have to."

McDonnell was among 48 Labour MPs to oppose the bill, defying acting Labour leader Harriet Harman who had called on her colleagues to abstain.

[clangers]

Left wing labour MP etc

 

I do genuinely wonder why these people joined the labour party. What do they think it actually represents?

 

A middle class, metropolitan, center-right party?

 

They never mention socialism even social democracy is a swear word. They've hijacked the party over the last 20 years thanks to Blair. They're about to find out that thanks to one member one vote the party they've joined is defined by it's membership rather than a small clique of MP's and the party is still a socialist party.

[Skidfingers McGonical]

I'd say Labour supporters were always socialists.

 

That's why the majority of them are highly fucked off with the party.

[Skidfingers McGonical]

I hit send by accident there.

[Teasmaid]

No chance they'll let this happen. They'll kill him, I reckon.

 

I've thought this too. Every time he talks about asking questions on how ISIS is funded, I wince. I reckon he'll be Robin Cooked within a couple of months if he doesn't watch out.

[Scooby Dudek]

The fact we are confident they are going to kill the potential leader of the Labour party, I see as a positive step forward. 

The fact blair has come out and attacked him confirms they are concerned.

[Red Phoenix]

The Guardian has gone into instant overdrive, fascist propaganda mode now that it looks like Corbyn could win. Straight from the top of their front page :

 

 

"Comfort blanket", "old-fashioned leftist platform", "Think before you vote for Jeremy Corbyn". Utterly fucking shameless propaganda.

[Red Phoenix]

It's not enough that they put Blair at the top of the front page, they even have to have an extra "live" section for him. Huge fail.

[Tyler Durden]

They can't seriously think more of the same is going to get them elected next time around, they might aswell morph the other candidates into one against Corbyn.

[Skidfingers McGonical]

Tony Blair can fuck off the murdering cunt.