Bernard Manning dead.

[Strontium]

I don't think they loved him. They wouldn't have taken issue with it though, after all he went after gypsies and the disabled too; at least he was fair and even with it all.

 

See, now this for me is far more offensive than anything Bernard Manning ever said. You're one cast-iron hypocrite Stu Monty.

[Spy Bee]

Is he the one who changed his surname from Cole so that he could be PC?

 

I can't find any refernces to that on Google. Ali changed his name. It's an individual's perogative.

[Strontium]

He gave his money to charity but then Hitler was nice to a dog once.

 

But then he was a jolly good chap (Hitler that is) just those PC brigade bastards took what he did out of context. Most jews loved him

 

Pathetic.

[Spy Bee]

Twenty years ago they used to call twenty white men chasing a black man the Klu Klux Klan. Now they call it formula 1.

 

Is that racist? I laughed when I got that text.

[Paul]

See, now this for me is far more offensive than anything Bernard Manning ever said. You're one cast-iron hypocrite Stu Monty.

 

No, no, no. This is satire. We can say unpleasant things because we're "making a point".

[Stu Monty]

See, now this for me is far more offensive than anything Bernard Manning ever said. You're one cast-iron hypocrite Stu Monty.

 

Would you care to address my more serious posts that deal with the issue above rather than claim offense at a joke aimed to highlight the error of your previous staments? Don't play the innocent schoolgirl, it doesn't become you.

 

Why would the sense in Manning's stance matter?

[Stu Monty]

No, no, no. This is satire. We can say unpleasant things because we're "making a point".

 

...and we don't actually believe them, because that would be fucked up.

[Remmie]

Twenty years ago they used to call twenty white men chasing a black man the Klu Klux Klan. Now they call it formula 1.

 

Is that racist? I laughed when I got that text.

As head of the PC Brigade I declare that joke 97/126ths Racist with a bonus PC point and a free pamphlet entitled Diversity for beginners

[Strontium]

No, no, no. This is satire. We can say unpleasant things because we're "making a point".

 

He's not "making a point" though is he? He's being the smug, sarcy little cunt that he always is because he can't ever just disagree with someone in good grace. He has to belittle and mock people just because they take an opposite view.

 

If Stu (and Remmie for that matter) think that making jokes about Jews in the Holocaust is remotely equivalent to Bernard Manning's humour, then they're at best misguided, and at worst horrible snidey little shit-stirring cunts who should just fuck off right now.

[Strontium]

Would you care to address my more serious posts that deal with the issue above rather than claim offense at a joke aimed to highlight the error of your previous staments? Don't play the innocent schoolgirl, it doesn't become you.

 

Like I say, you singling out one race and making jokes about them is not the same as Manning making jokes about everyone.

 

There's no error in my previous statements. The only error is in your interpretation.

[Spy Bee]

I'm not taking sides, but if you really want to make your point SD, I suggest you make use of the term thundercunt! You know, rather than doubling up on your cunts. Use the power of the thunder.

[Paul]

He's not "making a point" though is he? He's being the smug, sarcy little cunt that he always is because he can't ever just disagree with someone in good grace. He has to belittle and mock people just because they take an opposite view.

If Stu (and Remmie for that matter) think that making jokes about Jews in the Holocaust is remotely equivalent to Bernard Manning's humour, then they're at best misguided, and at worst horrible snidey little shit-stirring cunts who should just fuck off right now.

 

Fucking hell, Danny, that's a bit rich coming from you, mate. I too find Stu's insistence on being what you call smug and sarcy a little wearing, but he hardly deserves the shit you've just thrown there, does he? He's generally a really good egg; albeit a misguided one in instances like this (in my opinion).

[Paul]

As head of the PC Brigade I declare that joke 97/126ths Racist with a bonus PC point and a free pamphlet entitled Diversity for beginners

 

Now that was funny.

[King Emlyn]

He's not "making a point" though is he? He's being the smug, sarcy little cunt that he always is because he can't ever just disagree with someone in good grace. He has to belittle and mock people just because they take an opposite view.

 

If Stu (and Remmie for that matter) think that making jokes about Jews in the Holocaust is remotely equivalent to Bernard Manning's humour, then they're at best misguided, and at worst horrible snidey little shit-stirring cunts who should just fuck off right now.

Blood pressure SD, Blood pressure.

[Gav]

This thread is funny -A comedian being slated for telling jokes by people who have no problem with making "potato & paddy" comments

[Stu Monty]

He's not "making a point" though is he? He's being the smug, sarcy little cunt that he always is because he can't ever just disagree with someone in good grace. He has to belittle and mock people just because they take an opposite view.

 

If Stu (and Remmie for that matter) think that making jokes about Jews in the Holocaust is remotely equivalent to Bernard Manning's humour, then they're at best misguided, and at worst horrible snidey little shit-stirring cunts who should just fuck off right now.

 

The commons awaits.

 

I'm prepared to discuss it properly but I made a point that was pretty valid and you dissapeared. The existance and the tolerance of people like Manning is centrally relevant to something like the holocaust by the way, absolutely centrally relevant; people killed other people because of race. But that isn't the issue. If the comment offended you, that's unfortunate, and knowing your taste in comedy, highly surprising.

 

The statement about not wanting to disagree in good grace is misguided and hypocritical, you're the pot calling the kettle and I'm not even black (no pun intended). Now you had your dig and I've had one back so do you want to discuss it properly or not? Why would Manning's stance making no sense be relevant?

[Strontium]

Fucking hell, Danny, that's a bit rich coming from you, mate. I too find Stu's insistence on being what you call smug and sarcy a little wearing, but he hardly deserves the shit you've just thrown there, does he? He's generally a good egg, albeit a misguided one in instances like this (in my opinion).

 

I admit I call people names all the time (that's just me; I've called my parents cunts to their faces before now) but Stu's passive-aggressive behaviour does him no favours. It's starting to piss me off a bit actually.

[Remmie]

He's not "making a point" though is he? He's being the smug, sarcy little cunt that he always is because he can't ever just disagree with someone in good grace. He has to belittle and mock people just because they take an opposite view.

 

If Stu (and Remmie for that matter) think that making jokes about Jews in the Holocaust is remotely equivalent to Bernard Manning's humour, then they're at best misguided, and at worst horrible snidey little shit-stirring cunts who should just fuck off right now.

My posts were done deliberately to wind up the anti-PC brigade, something which I'd expect you to be familiar with. Congrats you fell hook, line and sinker.

 

If you check my vote I don't really care as the very little I know about Bernard Manning is second hand opinion.

[Bellflower]

Twenty years ago they used to call twenty white men chasing a black man the Klu Klux Klan. Now they call it formula 1.

 

Is that racist? I laughed when I got that text.

Whether they admit it or not, so did everyone else, and that is about the standard of BM's jokes. Real incitement stuff alright, will we be safe in our beds tonight ?..................

[Guest Jay W]

Twenty years ago they used to call twenty white men chasing a black man the Klu Klux Klan. Now they call it formula 1.

 

Is that racist? I laughed when I got that text.

 

:smile:

[Stu Monty]

Like I say, you singling out one race and making jokes about them is not the same as Manning making jokes about everyone.

 

There's no error in my previous statements. The only error is in your interpretation.

 

You said him being racist would make no sense as a justification for him not being racist. If not what were you saying?

[Strontium]

I'm prepared to discuss it properly but I made a point that was pretty valid and you dissapeared.

 

Well, I was finding it difficult to keep up with the posts in this thread to be honest.

 

If the comment offended you, that's unfortunate, and knowing your taste in comedy, highly surprising.

I don't generally like racist jokes. If you were making jokes about all races, great, there's a context there (as Manning understood) but you weren't - you were singling Jews out because you know I am of Jewish descent. I thought that was pretty cheap.

 

Now you had your dig and I've had one back so do you want to discuss it properly or not? Why would Manning's stance making no sense be relevant?

I can't answer that. You know, it might be that Manning genuinely thought all the blacks should be "sent home". I don't believe that to be the case though. Do I have any hard evidence for this? No, I don't, that's just what I feel I've gleaned about him over the years.

 

(And regardless of whether he realised it or not, it would be an illogical stance to take.)

[Stu Monty]

I've got to get off now. I'll respond when I'm back on if you want to carry on sensibly.

[hamstrung]

We'd best have some evidence for the prosecution

 

A charity dinner was held in 1995 near Manchester to raise funds for the police. One entertainer invited was Bernard Manning (then 65, pictured left), one of the standup comedians who do the rounds of working men’s clubs in Northern England and notorious for his anti-ethnic jokes.

 

The dinner was attended by some 300 policemen – all white except for one black officer. Targeting this single Blackman, Bernard launched into a string of racist jibes. His audience (yes, the police audience) all whooped with delight and cheered him on. Here’s a sample of the jibes reported in News of the World (April 1995):

 

“Where is he? How are you, baby? Having a night out with nice people? Isn’t this better than swinging from the trees? – You’re black, I’m white. Do you think colour makes a difference? You bet your bollocks it does!”

 

“They actually think they’re English because they are born here. That means if a dog’s born in a stable, it is horse.”

 

“They used to be happy people in the cotton fields, singing their bollocks off day and night. A fella used to go around with a whip… ‘Oh, massa, give us another crack of dat whip. I love dat whip’…”

 

“A Liverpool docker went to South Africa for a job. The boss tells him: ‘It’s people like you we want here. Here’s a test. There’s a revolver, go out and shoot 6 niggers and a rabbit.’ The docker asks: ‘Why do I have to shoot the rabbit?’ He got the job.”

 

Later that year (1995), the same Manning made two black waitresses the butt of racist jokes before 500 men at a Round Table dinner at the Pennine Hotel, Derby in the north of England. One of the women, Freda Burton, 24, said that their ordeal started when she bent down to pick a cup she had dropped. Manning quipped (S*n, Sept 1995): “Very nice. That’s how I like my black pudding.”

 

In a complaint to an industrial tribunal, she alleged that Manning went on to make a series of jokes about sex acts and used words like ‘wog, nigger, sambo’.

 

He said of her hair braids: “Lend us one. I need some shoe laces for my boots.”

 

The other waitress, Sonia Rhule, 31, said that the audience were stamping their feet and banging the tables for more. “To me,” she said, “it was like a National Front meeting.”

 

Said a solicitor for the Commission for Racial Equality: ”They were exposed to the racist venom of a comedian without anyone intervening… The employers should have acted.”

 

http://www.goacom.org/overseas-digest/Race%20(UK)/jibes.html

 

 

"I came second in a Robert Redford lookalike contest once. {pause} A f. . . . .g nigger won . . . There's a fellow, John Lennon, He wanted peace, he f. . .g got it. Married a Jap, Yoko Poko, right ugly bastard, face like a blistered piss pot . . . What's two miles long and eats bananas? The f. . . . .g dole queue in Bradford.

 

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4158/is_19950428/ai_n13979510

[Spy Bee]

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