Is World War 3 Imminent?

[Edward.]

If you want peace you must prepare for war. The bet way to ensure peace is to have a strong defence.

 

 

[polymerpunkah]

Perhaps it's a response to Trump's threat to pull out of Nato.

 

My guess is the shitbag will try to do it if re-elected.

 

 

[Creator Supreme]

Wouldn't preparing for peace make a nice fucking change?

[Kepler-186]

13 minutes ago, polymerpunkah said:

Perhaps it's a response to Trump's threat to pull out of Nato.

 

My guess is the shitbag will try to do it if re-elected.

 

 

“the rest of NATO…..they’re a glorified crew”. 

[Ne Moe Imya]

On 23/01/2024 at 16:02, Megadrive Man said:

 

He also hit 13 holes in one the first ever time he played golf, although when he was widely ridiculed for it one of his advisors played it down and said it was more like 5 holes in one!

 

The best example of this sort of thing was when Putin played in an exhibition match against professional hockey players and scored 8 goals to lead his team to a 14-7 victory.

 

Some of the defending and goalkeeping is quite comical to watch, you can almost feel the players caught between needing to make it look like they're putting in effort, but not enough to actually stop him.

 

 

[littletedwest]

Some real cynics here. Next you'll be saying Boris Johnson isn't a world class distance runner and in fact only covers the five yards the Press can see him for.

[Lee909]

 

[Section_31]

I still reckon Putin is fucked. It's not like the soviet era where it had a machine and the PM was just the PM, this is putins war and he's only in place as long as people around him are making money. Half of those are probably on the yanks' payroll.

[Bjornebye]

Can we roll into Israel and blitz the murdering cunts? 

[Gnasher]

Lindsey Graham. Stupid yank.

 

 

 

 

[Section_31]

Why would attacking Iran start world war three, there's been two attacks on them in the last month by other Muslims. Even my mother don't like them, and she likes everyone.

[ZonkoVille77]

1 minute ago, Section_31 said:

Why would attacking Iran start world war three, there's been two attacks on them in the last month by other Muslims. Even my mother don't like them, and she likes everyone.

 

Ed Sheeran over here. 

[Bruce Spanner]

9 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

Why would attacking Iran start world war three, there's been two attacks on them in the last month by other Muslims. Even my mother don't like them, and she likes everyone.

 

If you look at political/militant Islam then they're isolated and outgunned.

 

They fund a lot of the fringe groups, but can only be stretched so far.

 

The bigger issue is the UAE noticeably cosying up to Russia over the past few years, that along with Saudi feeling like it is having its 'ideological standard bearer' chipped away at.

 

Interesting time, but Iran will be a pawn, not a player.

 

In my view the real flash point will be Taiwan and how many buttons China wants to push.

[Section_31]

47 minutes ago, Bruce Spanner said:

 

If you look at political/militant Islam then they're isolated and outgunned.

 

They fund a lot of the fringe groups, but can only be stretched so far.

 

The bigger issue is the UAE noticeably cosying up to Russia over the past few years, that along with Saudi feeling like it is having its 'ideological standard bearer' chipped away at.

 

Interesting time, but Iran will be a pawn, not a player.

 

In my view the real flash point will be Taiwan and how many buttons China wants to push.

 

China/Taiwan would be some next level economic shit. Taiwan make most of the world's microchips. Imagine that and china's slave factories being cut off from the global economy.

[Mudface]

14 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

 

China/Taiwan would be some next level economic shit. Taiwan make most of the world's microchips. Imagine that and china's slave factories being cut off from the global economy.

 

Fuck's sake, I'd best get that new graphics card as soon as possible.

[Bjornebye]

1 hour ago, Section_31 said:

 

China/Taiwan would be some next level economic shit. Taiwan make most of the world's microchips. Imagine that and china's slave factories being cut off from the global economy.

 

 

 

 

[Bruce Spanner]

1 hour ago, Section_31 said:

 

China/Taiwan would be some next level economic shit. Taiwan make most of the world's microchips. Imagine that and china's slave factories being cut off from the global economy.

 

Wait until you factor China's Tantalum and Cobalt mining operations in The Sahel region where they pretty much have the world's supply sewn up and could strangle the world at any point.

 

We really sleepwalked into this shit.

 

We're talking about gigafactories and whatnot to 'resist China's growing influence' without acknowlwedging that they rigged the game twenty/thirty years ago and we're reliant on them, and pretty much them only, for the basics and we're just piecing it together now.

[SasaS]

 

[Bruce Spanner]

Iran is now openly arming the Sudanese Army, much against the UAE and Saudis interests there.

 

Something is happening under the surface here as this is pretty fucking bold.

[No2]

Every days is a Geo Political School Day when Bruce is around.

[polymerpunkah]

7 hours ago, Bruce Spanner said:

Iran is now openly arming the Sudanese Army, much against the UAE and Saudis interests there.

 

Something is happening under the surface here as this is pretty fucking bold.

 

Wasn't SA supporting the army, in return for Sudanese troops serving in the conflict in Yemen?

 

Or has that deal ended with the decline in fighting in Yemen?

 

 

[Bruce Spanner]

32 minutes ago, polymerpunkah said:

 

Wasn't SA supporting the army, in return for Sudanese troops serving in the conflict in Yemen?

 

Or has that deal ended with the decline in fighting in Yemen?

 

 

Kinda complicated.

 

Yes, and no.

 

The soldiers were coming from the militia, who were supposedly part of the military, but it was accepted that this was a thing to avoid more internal conflict. 

 

Hemedti, Janjaweed leader and all round shit, was the one supplying the soldiers to both the UAE and Saudi. 
 

He’s the one currently ‘winning’ the war in Sudan against the nominal army.

 

So, at points Saudi, UAE, Russia and Qatar have supported both sides at different times.

 

But support now tends to be along these lines; Army is backed by Egypt, America and the ‘West’ and the militia is backed by the UAE, Russia. Though these change when you factor in regional conflicts.

 

A fucking mess being played out away from the worlds prying eyes and this Iran thing is right out of the blue and unexpected.

 

Maybe just the army scrambling for friends.

 

 

[Ne Moe Imya]

On 28/01/2024 at 16:08, Bruce Spanner said:

 

Wait until you factor China's Tantalum and Cobalt mining operations in The Sahel region where they pretty much have the world's supply sewn up and could strangle the world at any point.

 

We really sleepwalked into this shit.

 

We're talking about gigafactories and whatnot to 'resist China's growing influence' without acknowlwedging that they rigged the game twenty/thirty years ago and we're reliant on them, and pretty much them only, for the basics and we're just piecing it together now.

 

This is all true, but it's equally true for them.

 

China is just as dependent on the West for economic growth as the West is on China. Not saying war is totally impossible, because obviously the holes in Friedman's theories about economic linkages and war are there for all of us to see at this point. But it does mean that it would take a really, really foolish decision by the Chinese leadership to actually go to war over Taiwan. The economic devastation on both sides would be unprecedented.

[Bruce Spanner]

8 minutes ago, Ne Moe Imya said:

 

This is all true, but it's equally true for them.

 

China is just as dependent on the West for economic growth as the West is on China. Not saying war is totally impossible, because obviously the holes in Friedman's theories about economic linkages and war are there for all of us to see at this point. But it does mean that it would take a really, really foolish decision by the Chinese leadership to actually go to war over Taiwan. The economic devastation on both sides would be unprecedented.

 

If you look at the trade agreements, ties and partnerships China has forged over the past decade or so thay have made a delibrate attempt to be less reliant on 'us' for business, and even less so for services and expertise which is all we can really offer.

 

They have pivoted with BRICS and consolidated influence with APEC, and they're putting lots of effort in to South America at present.

 

They were thinking about today 30/40 years ago, we're still coming to terms with the modern world.

 

Are they confident enough to start with Taiwan?

 

They're fucking with Hong Kong and testing the waters and so far all they got back was stern telling off from a prefect as they ignored completely.

[TheHowieLama]

China's economy has never been measured internally by profit - but by output and amount of man hours people spend working so I don't know that they need "economic" growth as we would think of it.

So they always want work - whether that mind set starts to shift to include weighting toward profit we will see.