Russia v Ukraine

[cochyn]

This thread has been dragged completely into the shitter by the three Dennis Tooths. Fuck me. Way to go.

[Arniepie]

9 hours ago, Rico1304 said:

In this invasion and subsequent war, if you were to have to place a % on Russian v Ukrainian, how would you score it? 

Not sure what that means?

[Arniepie]

9 hours ago, TheHowieLama said:

On their own?

 

EDIT @Arniepie

On their own people?

An atrocity is an atrocity.

I don't think there is a difference who the victim is ,and I certainly wouldn't say it was less horrific,if it was a different population..

War dehumanises pople,we have seen that throughout history.

 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

13 hours ago, Pureblood said:

I guess mass formation psychosis works with things other than Covid, too. 

Still not a real thing.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

 

[Anubis]

10 hours ago, TheHowieLama said:

There is no chance Tom from Facebook does not have his finger on this.

You’re pinning this on Tom?

[Rico1304]

9 minutes ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

 

That’s the equivalent of a single sea container.  Between 44m people.  

[Rico1304]

7 hours ago, Strontium said:

 

RP, do notions of probability never factor into your calculations?

 

If I leave my house in the morning, and there's a dirty great turd on the pavement (a daily experience around here), I don't question where it came from. I know it probably came from a dog's arse. Of course, there's a theoretical probability that a human left it there, but it has to go down as fairly unlikely. It's not a 50/50 shot.

 

Similarly, if there are hundreds of murdered Ukrainian civilians, can you really not say: it was probably the Russians that did it? Must the attitude always be: reserve judgement until there's an insurmountable (and, in the circumstances, unlikely) pile of evidence?

If you live in Europe and hear hooves it’s possible it’s a herd of zebra, but more likely to be horses. 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

13 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

That’s the equivalent of a single sea container.  Between 44m people.  

68 grams each.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

10 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

If you live in Europe and hear hooves it’s possible it’s a herd of zebra, but more likely to be horses. 

That's a much nicer mental image than Stronts's unidentified jobbie.

[Mudface]

33 minutes ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

 

Bit like the eejits praising the Tories for increasing the number of food banks in their town.

[Gnasher]

7 hours ago, Jose Jones said:

First casualty of war is truth innit?

Fair to take a sceptical view of everything really. 

Exactly, especially after being spoon fed the weapons of mass destruction nonsense.

 

I've little doubt atrocities have been committed by the Russians but we have only been privy to information by one side during this war and a large portion is undoubtedly bullshit. 

 

One day we're being told Ukraine are pushing Russia back and their Army consists of clowns the next the situation is perilous.Remember the nonsense ofUkraine fighter pilot single handedly shooting down the Russian Air force? Or the Ukrainian sailors who refused to surrender? 

 

From this..

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60522454

 

To this.. 

https://www.euronews.com/2022/03/25/snake-island-sailors-freed-in-ukraine-war-prisoner-exchange-says-kyiv

 

[Gnasher]

 

 

[Anubis]

It’s not really a brains trust issue - if there is evidence of a war crime (almost certain on the Russian side and now a possibility of that incident above on the Ukrainian side) then you identify those involved and you haul them before the ICC. 

[Babb'sBurstNad]

8 minutes ago, Anubis said:

It’s not really a brains trust issue - if there is evidence of a war crime (almost certain on the Russian side and now a possibility of that incident above on the Ukrainian side) then you identify those involved and you haul them before the ICC. 

Not sure now's the time for a cricket match.

[Pureblood]

2 hours ago, cochyn said:

This thread has been dragged completely into the shitter by the three Dennis Tooths. Fuck me. Way to go.

You can't handle the Tooths.

[Pureblood]

Just now, Babb'sBurstNad said:

Not sure now's the time for a cricket match.

Bagsy I bowl first.  It's Pureblood from the GF end bowling into a gentle breeze, that will assist with drift.  Batsman is BurstNad on a pair. 

[Rico1304]

3 minutes ago, Pureblood said:

Bagsy I bowl first.  It's Pureblood from the GF end bowling into a gentle breeze, that will assist with drift.  Batsman is BurstNad on a pair. 

We’re gonna need more balls. 

[Gnasher]

Putins popularity rating in Russia hits 83%.. I get the impression the sanctions that were pushed by those who won't be hurt by their consequences are not going to produce the desired outcome, they will however almost certainly make the world's poor people poorer whilst making oil/weapon/arms producers richer. 

 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/896181/putin-approval-rating-russia/

 

[SasaS]

Oi! Artyom! Where's my scooter?

 

 

[bossy]

9 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

Putins popularity rating in Russia hits 83%.. I get the impression the sanctions that were pushed by those who won't be hurt by their consequences are not going to produce the desired outcome, they will however almost certainly make the world's poor people poorer whilst making oil/weapon/arms producers richer. 

 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/896181/putin-approval-rating-russia/

 

Thatchers popularity went through the roof during the Falklands. The propaganda in Russia will be mucho. 

[Red Phoenix]

1 hour ago, Gnasher said:

 

 

 

Zero surprise if true and what we're finding out will be the tip of the iceberg.

 

Turning a blind eye to fascists and neo-Nazis is something our governments have done for years and we've also armed and trained them, doing things like that increases the chances of war crimes on the Ukainian side and reduces their chances of having democracy outside of war time as well.

 

This isn't good for Ukraine, it isn't good for us and more people will learn this as time passes.

[Gnasher]

Peace talks? America? Nah.. wars good for business, 

 

https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20220403-us-defense-contractors-see-longer-term-benefits-from-war-in-ukraine

[SasaS]

2 hours ago, Anubis said:

You’re pinning this on Tom?

No Tom today, so we don't know who is to blame.

 

In the meantime, loving this regular intelligence updates from the UK MoD and their chief analyst captain Michael Obvious.

 

 

[TheHowieLama]

1 hour ago, Gnasher said:

Putins popularity rating in Russia hits 83%..

Considering he was elected with 78% of the vote that is not much of an uptick is it?