Keir Starmer

[Lee909]

2 minutes ago, Dicko said:

It's not a high bar is it?

If you replaced the cabinet with all 20 Premier League managers, you'd still get an improvement.

Apart from Hodgson obviously.

 

There's a bald Dutchman in Manchester that couldn't organise a piss up

[sir roger]

You think Ten Haag would be worse than Therese Coffey ?

[Bruce Spanner]

3 minutes ago, sir roger said:

You think Ten Haag would be worse than Therese Coffey ?

 

He’d at least have a chance at resurrecting this…

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7772818.stm

…with his experience on the training ground.

 

[Jairzinho]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67268154

 

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In his speech at a demonstration on Saturday, Mr McDonald said: "We will not rest until we have justice. Until all people, Israelis and Palestinians, between the river and the sea, can live in peaceful liberty."

A Labour spokesperson said: "The comments made by Andy McDonald at the weekend were deeply offensive, particularly at a time of rising antisemitism which has left Jewish people fearful for their safety.

 

[Megadrive Man]

People are still voting for this Labour Party though?

[ZonkoVille77]

You'd get more inspiration from salt covered slug.

[Gnasher]

15 minutes ago, Jairzinho said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67268154

 

 

 

No purge of the left.. chapter 15.

[Jairzinho]

Peaceful liberty for Israelis and Palestinians? 

 

Deeply offensive. 

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

1 hour ago, Jairzinho said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67268154

 

 

Joke party. 

[Scooby Dudek]

Why do so many people hate Labour and want the Tories to stay in power forever? 

Obviously that i the only possible reason why people are saying negative things about the Labour party. 

[Section_31]

Ouch.

 

 

[sir roger]

Quite the 'error'

[Gnasher]

Amnesty statement on Starmers speech.

 

https://www.amnesty.org.uk/press-releases/uk-keir-starmers-failure-call-gaza-ceasefire-shows-lack-principled-leadership?s=09

 

 

[Gnasher]

Lukewarm from the Guardian. 

 

 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/oct/31/the-guardian-view-on-sir-keir-starmers-speech-it-wont-end-the-divisions-in-labour?s=09

[Dicko]

I know people are desperate to oust the tories, but surely everyone can see now how deeply authoritarian this man is going to be.

It's like people wanting rid of Rafa so much they're willing to accept Hodgson.*

 

*The fucking cunt.

[Megadrive Man]

Vote Green. If enough people do it they could get the third biggest vote share at the next election.

 

This will then set up years of the Tories and Labour trying to outdo each other on green issues to get those voters back.

 

If Labour get a big victory at the next election then they will just keep moving further to the right. 

[Kevin D]

[Paulie Dangerously]

He's terrified of being labelled an anti-Semitic and going the same way as corbyn 

[Paulie Dangerously]

He's terrified of being labelled an anti-Semitic and going the same way as corbyn 

[ZonkoVille77]

Rumours going around that he's terrified of being labelled an anti-Semitic and going the same way as corbyn 

[Jack the Sipper]

11 hours ago, Megadrive Man said:

Vote Green. If enough people do it they could get the third biggest vote share at the next election.

 

This will then set up years of the Tories and Labour trying to outdo each other on green issues to get those voters back.

 

If Labour get a big victory at the next election then they will just keep moving further to the right. 

 

Only if they're tactical votes. Otherwise you could easily end up in a situation where Labour loses seats it might otherwise win to the Tories to green votes, the Tories win the election and talk about how it was actually how people are tired of green policies that won them the election, then talk about 'protecting the motorists', and change their policies to suit.

 

Something pretty much exactly like what happened this year when they won Uxbridge.

 

 

2 hours ago, Paulie Dangerously said:

He's terrified of being labelled an anti-Semitic and going the same way as corbyn 

 

Agreed. And I can see why, given the sheer torrent of accusations and smears that came Corbyn's way. If I were trying to win an election, I'd be mindful of how the guy before me did and learn from that.

 

If seems others think 'vote with your heart, say what you feel', is enough.

[Dicko]

19 minutes ago, Jack the Sipper said:

 

Only if they're tactical votes. Otherwise you could easily end up in a situation where Labour loses seats it might otherwise win to the Tories to green votes, the Tories win the election and talk about how it was actually how people are tired of green policies that won them the election, then talk about 'protecting the motorists', and change their policies to suit.

 

Something pretty much exactly like what happened this year when they won Uxbridge.

 

 

 

Agreed. And I can see why, given the sheer torrent of accusations and smears that came Corbyn's way. If I were trying to win an election, I'd be mindful of how the guy before me did and learn from that.

 

If seems others think 'vote with your heart, say what you feel', is enough.

Most of the accusations against Corbyn either came from or were facilitated by the Labour right. He's under nowhere near the scrutiny Corbyn was. If he was he'd be unelectable. 

[Jack the Sipper]

28 minutes ago, Dicko said:

Most of the accusations against Corbyn either came from or were facilitated by the Labour right. He's under nowhere near the scrutiny Corbyn was. If he was he'd be unelectable. 

 

They came from Labour, the Tories, other right-wing parties, pundits and celebs, and from foriegn sources.

 

And can you guess why he's under nowhere near the scrutiny Corbyn was, this man who's trying to get elected? Because he's learnt from Corbyn's mistakes, naivety, or stubbornness perhaps? 

[Arniepie]

2 hours ago, Paulie Dangerously said:

He's terrified of being labelled an anti-Semitic and going the same way as corbyn 

isnt his wife jewish?

[Arniepie]

6 minutes ago, Jack the Sipper said:

 

They came from Labour, the Tories, other right-wing parties, pundits and celebs, and from foriegn sources.

 

And can you guess why he's under nowhere near the scrutiny Corbyn was, this man who's trying to get elected? Because he's learnt from Corbyn's mistakes, naivety, or stubbornness perhaps? 

i think there is much less to pin on him tbf..the saville stuff is nonsense..smart move in that respect.