Venezuela

[TheHowieLama]

I think that is the boogie man - the flag behind him suggests the USA. And they, well, they are behind him.

 

Why is he trying to do a white guy? Even though it is in black and white I think his eyes are blue.

Why does a white guy have a crown of thorns on his mantle?

[Red Phoenix]

2 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

Why is he trying to do a white guy? Even though it is in black and white I think his eyes are blue.

Why does a white guy have a crown of thorns on his mantle?

 

"I think his eyes are blue." Yeah, I'm gonna go and play some Elder Scrolls, later.

[TheHowieLama]

What color do you think the eyes of the fella whose door the US backed boogie man is knocking on are? He doesn't look at all Venezuelan, or Syrian, or Libyan if I am being honest.

 

What about the crown of thorns?

 

 

[moof]

The fuck is going on here? There are no white Venezuelans now apparently? 

[SasaS]

White Venezuelans are anti-Maduro and for Gou...Guad... pro opposition, since the guy is, as Pilger tells us, a white supremacist.

[Red Phoenix]

42 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

What color do you think the eyes of the fella whose door the US backed boogie man is knocking on are? He doesn't look at all Venezuelan, or Syrian, or Libyan if I am being honest.

 

What about the crown of thorns?

 

 

 

Don't know, don't care. You're trying to distract from the main point of the image and I'm not interested at all.

[TheHowieLama]

Yes you are, you will be up all night.

[Red Phoenix]

6 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

Yes you are, you will be up all night.

 

I'm really not, and if I'm up all night hopefully I won't be arguing in here.

[TheHowieLama]

OK - will set the stopwatch now.

[Red Phoenix]

Noam Chomsky on Venezuela

 

 

[Red Phoenix]

Well done Rubio, well done : Marco Rubio Says Venezuelan Explosion Occurred At 'German Dam,' Who Is A Journalist And Not A Dam

[SasaS]

I knew Rubio was behind the power cuts. He probably sweated all over the switch board.

[SasaS]

Now the water shortages, according to the BBC. And we know who drinks a lot of water.

[polymerpunkah]

Does Algeria have oil reserves?

 

(Asking for an American friend.)

[SasaS]

No. But it was the first big Arab country where they had to stage a coup to prevent Islamists from takeing over, after they won the election.

[SasaS]

So far, this looks like a pretty pathetic attempt. Is this Guaido guy for real?

[Anubis]

From The Guardian. 

 

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The opposition leader Juan Guaidó was almost unknown both inside and outside Venezuela until the start of this year.

 

Guaidó was made chairman of the national assembly in January because it was the turn of his party, Voluntad Popular (People’s Will). At 35, he was a junior member of his party but its leaders were either under house arrest, in hiding or in exile.

He declared himself "interim president" that month, resting his claim on a clause in the constitution that allows the legislature to take power temporarily and call new elections if it deems the president to be failing to fulfil basic duties or to have vacated the post. 

 

Guaidó's relative obscurity initially proved an advantage in a country where the opposition has generally failed to distinguish itself, losing its nerve at critical moments, succumbing to infighting, and getting involved in a failed coup against Hugo Chávez in 2002.

 

He inspired a huge wave of protests inside Venezuela with a message of peaceful change, and won widespread international support. Countries from Europe to the US and regional powers recognised him as Venezuela's legitimate president, handing him control of bank accounts and Venezuelan assets along with the formal recognition.

 

As months dragged on however, Guaidó's hope of winning a wave of military defections that would end the rule of Nicolás Maduro seemed to fade, leaving his movement in an uneasy limbo - self-declared president but with no power.

 

He raised concerns inside Venezuela and internationally when he appeared to hint at the possibility of military interventionafter a failed attempt to bring humanitarian aid into the country in February.

 

Questions have also been raised about the bedfellows Guaidó has chosen in what he calls his bid to rescue Venezuela. His main international backer is Donald Trump. 

 

Another key regional supporter is Brazil’s far-right firebrand president, Jair Bolsonaro, known for his hostility to human rights and his fondness for dictatorship. Despite these characteristics, Guaidó has praised what he called Bolsonaro’s “commitment to and for democracy [and] human rights”. 

 

 

[SasaS]

That country is so fucked. It's God's sick joke. He first gave them all that oil and then dumped a collection of most incompetent, uncharismatic and corrupt politicians he could find on their heads.

[moof]

Oh, what’s this? A right wing military coup? Supported/initiated by the US? In Latin America? In an oil rich country? Whodathunkit

[Strontium]

"Coup" is a strange term to use for the democratically elected leader of the national assembly attempting to oust a dictator.

 

There is military involvement, of course - the military just drove their armoured cars into a crowd of protesters.

[moof]

Lmao

[Jairzinho]

Quote

 

The US has declared its support for Juan Guaidó as he called for the Venezuelan military to join an uprising against the government of Nicolás Maduro.

The secretary of state, Mike Pompeo, tweeted a message in support of what he called “the start of Operación Libertad”.

 

Certainly doesn't seem like a coup.

[moof]

It’s just classic American democracy. Nothing to see here 

[moof]

Bolton: “all options are on the table”

 

not a coup, definitely not a coup

 

 

look over there 

[Strontium]

Obviously we should just let Maduro starve and murder his own people, because America. That's the rational option.