Summer 2018 Transfer Thread

[Ne Moe Imya]

Jack Grealish being touted to Spurs for £40m. Madness.

 

Please let that happen.

 

After the disappointment of Pochettino not leaving we need something to go wrong at Spurs. Grealish for that price would just about do it.

 

I'm beginning to think that Spurs are sort of in this weird place with Pochettino, where he's too good of a coach for them to replace, but at the same time he's a terrible evaluator of talent and as such shouldn't be anywhere near the recruitment. However, he is in a position to demand to be allowed to control recruitment or he'll leave. Catch 22.

 

Not too dissimilar to Rodgers' problem, to be honest (except Poch is a better coach). If Rodgers had just let Edwards and the team bring in the players and just focused on coaching the ones he got, he might still be in a job at Liverpool. Instead he insisted on weird deals like "I get Benteke if you get Firmino" and got a fully deserved sacking.

[aRdja]

Please let that happen.

 

After the disappointment of Pochettino not leaving we need something to go wrong at Spurs. Grealish for that price would just about do it.

 

I'm beginning to think that Spurs are sort of in this weird place with Pochettino, where he's too good of a coach for them to replace, but at the same time he's a terrible evaluator of talent and as such shouldn't be anywhere near the recruitment. However, he is in a position to demand to be allowed to control recruitment or he'll leave. Catch 22.

 

Not too dissimilar to Rodgers' problem, to be honest (except Poch is a better coach). If Rodgers had just let Edwards and the team bring in the players and just focused on coaching the ones he got, he might still be in a job at Liverpool. Instead he insisted on weird deals like "I get Benteke if you get Firmino" and got a fully deserved sacking.

Why is he ‘“a terrible evaluator of talent”?

[Ne Moe Imya]

Well, some of this is just my opinion, so you're welcome to disregard if you like, but if you believe the Spurs insiders Poch is the one who pushed for Sissoko. That probably colours my view quite a bit because it was one of the most obviously dumb deals we've seen a big club do recently (right up there with some of the things Ed Woodward has gotten up to at United) and he continues to support him vocally despite him being abject when he plays.

 

I think, reading the tea leaves, the situation at Tottenham is somewhat similar to what we had here under Rodgers. There is clearly an analytics team that is doing good work and suggesting some unheralded players who have turned out to be gems. Son, for example, was one that statistical analysis would have suggested was a good target.

 

It's not as clear-cut as the divide was here between Edwards and Rodgers, because they don't speak about it to the media as much, but you can still see the tension. And you can sense that the recruitment has gotten worse as Pochettino exerts more and more control over it and you go from buying the likes of Wanyama and Son to Sissoko and Llorente.

 

Some of their bad buys are hard to pin on Poch like Janssen or Moura (who might still turn good) but that Sissoko one really stands out. I don't think you could find a single analyst focused on stats in the world who thought that was a good move - it was doomed from the second they looked at him.

[Gym Beglin]

Some of their bad buys are hard to pin on Poch like Janssen or Moura (who might still turn good) but that Sissoko one really stands out. I don't think you could find a single analyst focused on stats in the world who thought that was a good move - it was doomed from the second they looked at him.

Didn't Firmino single him out as of one of the best players in the league?

 

“We have great players in English football, it’s hard to select one as the outright best,” he said. “That’s why it’s the most popular league with many quality teams. We can talk about the goalscorers Salah and Harry Kane.

 

“We also have Gabriel Jesus, Kevin De Bruyne and Ilkay Gundogan in Manchester City, Paul Pogba and Romelu Lukaku at Manchester United, Moussa Sissoko and Mousa Dembele at Tottenham, Willian and Eden Hazard at Chelsea, Mesut Ozil at Arsenal.

 

“Not to mention Mane, Emre Can, Dejan Lovren and the many other good players we have here at Liverpool. It is a league with great stars. Virtually everyone I mentioned will be at the World Cup. The level is very high.”

[Numero Veinticinco]

Lovren...

[SasaS]

Didn't Firmino single him out as of one of the best players in the league?

 

“We have great players in English football, it’s hard to select one as the outright best,” he said. “That’s why it’s the most popular league with many quality teams. We can talk about the goalscorers Salah and Harry Kane.

 

“We also have Gabriel Jesus, Kevin De Bruyne and Ilkay Gundogan in Manchester City, Paul Pogba and Romelu Lukaku at Manchester United, Moussa Sissoko and Mousa Dembele at Tottenham, Willian and Eden Hazard at Chelsea, Mesut Ozil at Arsenal.

 

“Not to mention Mane, Emre Can, Dejan Lovren and the many other good players we have here at Liverpool. It is a league with great stars. Virtually everyone I mentioned will be at the World Cup. The level is very high.”

 

Maybe "moussa" means "boss" in Portuguese.

[aRdja]

Well, some of this is just my opinion, so you're welcome to disregard if you like, but if you believe the Spurs insiders Poch is the one who pushed for Sissoko. That probably colours my view quite a bit because it was one of the most obviously dumb deals we've seen a big club do recently (right up there with some of the things Ed Woodward has gotten up to at United) and he continues to support him vocally despite him being abject when he plays.

 

I think, reading the tea leaves, the situation at Tottenham is somewhat similar to what we had here under Rodgers. There is clearly an analytics team that is doing good work and suggesting some unheralded players who have turned out to be gems. Son, for example, was one that statistical analysis would have suggested was a good target.

 

It's not as clear-cut as the divide was here between Edwards and Rodgers, because they don't speak about it to the media as much, but you can still see the tension. And you can sense that the recruitment has gotten worse as Pochettino exerts more and more control over it and you go from buying the likes of Wanyama and Son to Sissoko and Llorente.

 

Some of their bad buys are hard to pin on Poch like Janssen or Moura (who might still turn good) but that Sissoko one really stands out. I don't think you could find a single analyst focused on stats in the world who thought that was a good move - it was doomed from the second they looked at him.

Wanyama was signed in the same window as Sissoko. Didn’t Spurs also sign Alli, Dier, Davies, Alderweireld, Son, Trippier, Sanchez under him?

[The Woolster]

You know who's a really underrated keeper? Fabianski. He's consistently good every season for Swansea and no-one talks about him. 

 

If you had a membership Boss, you'd have seen me talk about him the other day...

 

Stats show him a good light

[Ne Moe Imya]

To get us back on track on OUR transfers (and I admit I'm partially to blame for starting the debate on Poch's eye for a player, for which I apologise), someone on twitter has put this up:

 

 

I mean, I'm not a Photoshop expert but that looks awfully real to me. Or at least, it looks like something that would take WAAAY too much time to fake just to show that you knew something we're all going to know in 12 hours or whatever.

[Razoray]

Between Sissoko, Moura and him Spurs are have been doing consistently bad business for a few seasons with the odd gem thrown in. Very Liverpool of old.

Aurier Llorente Jannsen etc

[The Guest]

I hate that shit like that gets leaked. Ruins the surprise.

[Funkasy]

That looks like the same way Fabinho was presented, he does a roar at the camera.

[Rick Sanchez C-137]

To get us back on track on OUR transfers (and I admit I'm partially to blame for starting the debate on Poch's eye for a player, for which I apologise), someone on twitter has put this up:

 

 

I mean, I'm not a Photoshop expert but that looks awfully real to me. Or at least, it looks like something that would take WAAAY too much time to fake just to show that you knew something we're all going to know in 12 hours or whatever.

"Never underestimate how far people will go to get likes on twitter" - Abraham Lincoln

[Edward.]

30 seconds on Photoshop.

[sir roger]

Nabil will have to get those teeth sorted if he thinks he is going to get a starring part in a Nivea advert.

[Strontium]

Him and Firmino are going to be the before and after shots for our new dental partners.

[moof]

https://twitter.com/ASRomaEN/status/1005045578861109249?s=20

 

That’s a piss poor photoshop compared to this from AS Roma

[J-V]

Arse in talks with Pavon (the Argie someone on here said was good)

[Harry Squatter]

He's good. Won't cost much either.

[Thoth]

GOTZE OPEN TO KLOPP REUNION

 

Mario Gotze has refused to rule out a reunion with former Borussia Dortmund manager Jurgen Klopp at Liverpool.

 

The 2014 World Cup winner rose to prominence under Klopp at Dortmund and has left to open to a potential move to Anfield.

 

“I decided to leave Bayern and Jurgen Klopp was interested in getting me to Liverpool. And I was also interested in working with him again,” Gotze told the DAZN documentary ‘Being Mario Gotze’.

 

“It’s still existing. He is a world-class coach and that’s why it’s always an option

[Thoth]

CILLESSEN STILL AVAILABLE?

 

Barcelona have not ruled out the prospect of selling Liverpool target Jasper Cillessen this summer, reports Mundo Deportivo.

 

The La Liga giants do not want to sell the goalkeeper but they will consider doing so if they receive a lucrative offer for him this summer.

 

The 29-year-old’s buyout clause is set at €60m and if Barca receive an offer close to that amount they will consider the proposal.

 

Goalkeeper Cillessen, who joined Barca from Ajax for €13m in 2016, is on Liverpool’s radar, while he has also been linked with Arsenal and Chelsea

[J-V]

GOTZE OPEN TO KLOPP REUNION

 

 

Fuck him, he had the chance.

[El Dangerous]

I saw an open Goatse once.

[General Dryness]

I am knowledgeable. I post things when I think I'm right and when I think I have a unique point of view. Sounds like you're just a bit offended or insecure by my confidence and or the delivery of my posts. Intelligence can be intimidating, I guess. 

 

[Lee909]

If Dortmund fancy getting him the wage bill and releasing him why not.