Dejan Lovren

[Denny Crane]

Just when I start warming to Lovren he goes a bit Nazi.

Fucking A!

Lovren and Salahs special relationship makes sense now. At least Henderson won't let us down he will always be a good son-in-law.

[moof]

Hang on, Lovren is a Nazi now?

[AngryOfTuebrook]

Hang on, Lovren is a Nazi now?

He's been posting footage of him and his team-mates celebrating a win by singing a song with Nazi connotations.

[Pidge]

what are said connotations?

[TheHowieLama]

what are said connotations?

 

Nazi

[AngryOfTuebrook]

what are said connotations?

Slogans and stuff from when Croatian Nazis joined the German ones in slaughtering Serbs; the kind of thing that enjoyed a revival in the 90s.

[aws]

It's a song from the 90s celebrating the Croatian defence of their homeland from the attacking Serbs. The lyrics are about as 'Nazi' as Flower of Scotland or the Marseillaise.

[moof]

This is the song in question.

 

It’s... strangely compelling. Mad Balkan bastards.

 

[Jarvinja Ilnow]

Croatia: can go in the summer.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

It's a song from the 90s celebrating the Croatian defence of their homeland from the attacking Serbs. The lyrics are about as 'Nazi' as Flower of Scotland or the Marseillaise.

Really?

 

I read that it contains slogans from the Croatian Nazis of WWII (like the Sieg Heil-type bit at the start), which would make it a bit, y'know, Nazi.

[scudger99]

Wait for the clickbait reports of him being seen in a Nazi officer's uniform goose stepping while giving the Nazi salute.

[Pidge]

Really?

 

I read that it contains slogans from the Croatian Nazis of WWII (like the Sieg Heil-type bit at the start), which would make it a bit, y'know, Nazi.

 

The "to defend the homeland - we're ready" bit?

 

It's obviously got nationalist aspects to it, not sure it's supremacist in any obvious sense though.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

The "to defend the homeland - we're ready" bit?

 

It's obviously got nationalist aspects to it, not sure it's supremacist in any obvious sense though.

It's more a question of what the slogans were used for. Hailing victory is not, in itself, problematic; shouting "Sieg Heil" is. It's all about historical, cultural and symbolic baggage.

[cloggypop]

Nationalism is all a load of arse

[Pidge]

It's more a question of what the slogans were used for. Hailing victory is not, in itself, problematic; shouting "Sieg Heil" is. It's all about historical, cultural and symbolic baggage.

 

Must have missed that bit.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

Must have missed that bit.

https://inews.co.uk/sport/football/world-cup/dejan-lovren-fascist-nazi-collaborator-ustase-song-bojna-cavoglave/

[skend04]

Nazi? Can we punch him?

[Josef Svejk]

It's a song from the 90s celebrating the Croatian defence of their homeland from the attacking Serbs. The lyrics are about as 'Nazi' as Flower of Scotland or the Marseillaise.

It's fascist. Which distinguishes it from those two ditties...

[El Rojo]

On a slight tangent, the entirety of The Death Of Yugoslavia, a 1995 BBC documentary series, is on YouTube.

 

While it could do with being updated to take account of subsequent events, it's still a brilliant, though at times disturbing, watch.

[kemskem]

Roughly half the population are Nazis nowadays. It was always gonna be 50/50.

[aws]

It's fascist. Which distinguishes it from those two ditties...

Why is it fascist? Which of the lyrics are fascist? The invading Serbs were the fascists in the war it celebrates.

[Josef Svejk]

Why is it fascist? Which of the lyrics are fascist? The invading Serbs were the fascists in the war it celebrates.

I suggest you read up on Thompson and then interpret the lyrics how you see fit:

 

https://lyricstranslate.com/en/bojna-cavoglave-cavoglave1-battalion.html

 

The fact that Serbia was the aggressor in the Yugoslav wars doesn't mean that (a large body of) Croats weren't then, previously, or now fascists, incidentally. That's quite clearly not the case. And I say that as someone with significant Croatian sympathies...

[aRdja]

He should be suspended for a long long time if they can prove that he said “sieg heil”. Fucking hell, what a cunt (if true).

[cloggypop]

This is nearly as bad as his Russell Brown clothing line

[VERBAL DIARRHEA]

How long did the Nazi dog get? Inciteful bastard. Josef Grrrrrrbels.