Tony Blair

[Section_31]

Claims the current debacle in Iraq is nothing to do with the invasion, and is instead to do with us not getting involved in Syria.

 

I always thought this guy was just someone who gradually became a neo liberal in sheep's clothing, someone who became more and more enamoured with wealth as time went by, but I think he must be genuinely insane.

[Bobby Hundreds]

He genuinely does not give a shit about human life.

[Strontium]

He's interested in exercising power for power's sake. He's exactly the sort of person who should be kept away from power at all costs.

[Section_31]

Rumblings of him running for the EU presidency apparently, it's like he's got some sociopathic inability to see that he's wrong about virtually everything. Michael Moore said it best, he said George Bush was pretty thick (and surrounded my neo cons, not least those in his family) but Blair had neither excuse.

[Guest Numero Veinticinco]

Syria is a total cluster fuck. The entire region has taken a turn for the worse since Blair and Bush did them the honour of liberating them. We used to sit and talk about how to 'fix' the region, but now it's a peek through the fingers covering your eyes and hoping that nothing too savage has happened.

[littletedwest]

Not seen him for years but when the opportunity for another war arises he returns likes a war does Tony

[Section_31]

Syria is a total cluster fuck. The entire region has taken a turn for the worse since Blair and Bush did them the honour of liberating them.

 

The harsh truth to my mind is that democracy doesn't work in these places, or at least they'd need some kind of evolution in that direction, it was the same when the Soviet Union collapsed and Yogoslavia imploded. There's this theory that once you get rid of the secret police everyone is going to celebrate and go and get a job at McDonald's, when in actual fact what they really want to do is skewer the bloke who's ancient ancestor shat on your great grandfather's donkey.

 

Pre invasion Iraq was pretty secular, it had more Christians than Pitcairn Island, because Hussein basically put a gun to everyone's head and said 'keep the peace or you're both dead'. Now the gun is gone, nothing has replaced it, not equality, not wealth, nothing, the middle east quite literally has nothing left to lose.

[Kevin D]

Tony Blair should be in prison.

[Jairzinho]

It would be much better for almost everyone if he was dead.

[Guest Numero Veinticinco]

The harsh truth to my mind is that democracy doesn't work in these places, or at least they'd need some kind of evolution in that direction, it was the same when the Soviet Union collapsed and Yogoslavia imploded. There's this theory that once you get rid of the secret police everyone is going to celebrate and go and get a job at McDonald's, when in actual fact what they really want to do is skewer the bloke who's ancient ancestor shat on your great grandfather's donkey.

 

Pre invasion Iraq was pretty secular, it had more Christians than Pitcairn Island, because Hussein basically put a gun to everyone's head and said 'keep the peace or you're both dead'. Now the gun is gone, nothing has replaced it, not equality, not wealth, nothing, the middle east quite literally has nothing left to lose.

Yep. A cunt he was but he put his foot on the throat of people and they knew if they didn't toe the line they'd lose their balls. Right or wrong. I think we might see Iraq split into two or three parts this time.

[Phoenix]

If we had got involved in Syria it would have been in opposition to Assad and in support of ISIS/Islamists.

In Egypt he supports General Sisi's dictatorship in opposition to the Islamists.

 

What does he actually believe in?

[Section_31]

His eldest son lives in a 3.5 million London pad and is rumoured to be earmarked to run for MP in one of Labour's safest seats, and his second son is set to become a millionaire footy agent after his millionaire mum set up his company and bankrolled his deals. Needless to say if we had gone into Syria, these wee men would be nowhere near the front lines.

 

If anything sums up how Britain really works, it's that.

 

Politics, wealth, influence, top jobs in the media and finance, all absolutely sewn up.

[Chip Butty]

 

What does he actually believe in?

 

Himself.

 

 

The archetypal champagne socialist.

[mattyq]

I do believe Blair is or has become a full blown sociopath and partially insane.

A more stark illustration of the corrupting aspects of power you could not wish for

[Fowlers God]

He is the anti Christ

[Bobby Hundreds]

Do politicians actually do anything good. Other than make the very wealthy much more wealthier and slowly but surely put more and more resources into fewer greedier hands. Its almost like their purpose is to make the world a shittier scarier place as possible.

[Dr Nowt]

It's always good to see Tone commenting on the disastrous state of Iraq.

I'm hoping Gary Glitter's views will be afforded similar indulgence via national television, on the subject of crimes committed by those Operation Yewtree are investigating.

There are probably no words to sum Blair up that do justice to what a deranged reptile of a man he truly is.

[Josef Svejk]

The harsh truth to my mind is that democracy doesn't work in these places... it was the same when the Soviet Union collapsed and Yogoslavia imploded.

 

I take it you've never been to Estonia or Slovenia, for example. Parts of the Soviet Union and Yugoslavia respectively, now "functioning democracies".

[torahboy]

Blair is a cunt. Of course he is almost completely insane but he is still earthbound enough not to mention the elephant in the middle-eastern living room. The protection of the Zionist state is behind every attempt to destabilize the Arab governments, elected or not. The sad and sorrowful message behind the rise of these extremist forces is that there will be no peace while Zionism thrives in Arab lands. Now, on the BBC news, we are being told of three Jewish teenagers going missing in Israel. Thousands of Palestinian teenagers have been going missing (dying) for decades and they're never considered by our media. It's fucked up but not helped by cunts like Blair.

[xerxes]

Blair was the architect of making Labour electable for the 21st century and a key player in the Northern Ireland peace process. But he miscalculated our Iraq policy, placing being Bush’s lackey beyond all else ( Gordon Brown was no better). Every time he tries to re-invent the Iraq crisis he makes things worse for himself.

 

The French were right, there was no WMD capability, the UN were right, sanctions had Saddam boxed in, Blair was, and is, wrong. There is no doubt that Saddam was a bad man in a faction riven country. Was he worse than what has followed? No.

 

At some point, the Arabs need to be allowed to make their own mistakes. We had our civil war some 350 years ago, and it has not been exactly plain sailing since. The West has pretty disastrously insisted that doing something is better than doing nothing, with little to back that policy up. Of course the West should offer diplomatic resources to help the factions come to an accommodation, but it is not for us to decide who rules Iraq.

[Gnasher]

If we had got involved in Syria it would have been in opposition to Assad and in support of ISIS/Islamists.

In Egypt he supports General Sisi's dictatorship in opposition to the Islamists.

 

What does he actually believe in?

Money.

[RedRazor]

The harsh truth to my mind is that democracy doesn't work in these places, or at least they'd need some kind of evolution in that direction, it was the same when the Soviet Union collapsed and Yogoslavia imploded. There's this theory that once you get rid of the secret police everyone is going to celebrate and go and get a job at McDonald's, when in actual fact what they really want to do is skewer the bloke who's ancient ancestor shat on your great grandfather's donkey.

 

Pre invasion Iraq was pretty secular, it had more Christians than Pitcairn Island, because Hussein basically put a gun to everyone's head and said 'keep the peace or you're both dead'. Now the gun is gone, nothing has replaced it, not equality, not wealth, nothing, the middle east quite literally has nothing left to lose.

It is probably just me but I find this post stupid, ignorant and borderline racist.

 

Good ol' Saddam - he knew how to run a country alright. Just like Joe Stalin and Pol Pot. Those boys really showed the democracy jockeys how it should be done didin't they?

[stringvest]

Perhaps sec had omitted to mention the systematic murder of the Kurds, but I suspect Bush and Blairs adventures even made that pale into relative insignificance. Saddam was a madman, but let's not forget who supported him in the first place.

[Guest Numero Veinticinco]

It is probably just me but I find this post stupid, ignorant and borderline racist.

 

Good ol' Saddam - he knew how to run a country alright. Just like Joe Stalin and Pol Pot. Those boys really showed the democracy jockeys how it should be done didin't they?

If you think that of Sec. you're sadly mistaken. Just because he said Saddam ruled with a loaded gun, it doesn't mean he supported him or his regime.

 

What's clear is the Iraq war was a total fucking disaster that, for the most part, has left people significantly worse off than before. Does that make Saddam his hero? Erm, no.

[Baltar]

Blair should be tried at the Hague and banged up for life for his part in ~500,000 Iraqi deaths caused by his blood-lust. Truly a despicable human being, makes me sick to think he was seen as some sort of hero for Labour.