Saudi Investor buy 25% liverpool stock

[JohnnyH]

At least there seems to be some movement. However, is their any truth in the rumour that this Saudi guy is another papar rich fella without massive funds?

[Dirk]

I would have thought that they'd be looking at a rights/share issue (not sure of the correct term/distinction between the two), won't they? They won't be selling what they own; they'll be bringing new money into the club and investing it in debt repayment/new players/a new stadium. So they won't actually be reducing the value of their own holdings, just the proportion of the club they own. If not, what's the point in only selling a proportion of their shares?

 

It looks like it's just Gillett rather than him and Hicks. How would they implement that with the current structure, if Hicks doesn't agree to any dilution in the proportion of his share of the club? I have little understanding of finance, I'm not being smart, it's a genuine question.

[Red Nick]

Torres and Gerrard would not be sold, the rest of the squad is fair game, but there the most marketable players at the club, and do you really think we'd have used up half of our transfer budget if Purslow is to be believed given them new contracts if we were gona sell them? The rest of the squad maybe, but them 2 no chance.

 

If you need 125m off the debt and you dont have any money where are you going to get it from?

[Red Nick]

It looks like it's just Gillett rather than him and Hicks. How would they implement that with the current structure, if Hicks doesn't agree to any dilution in the proportion of his share of the club? I have little understanding of finance, I'm not being smart, it's a genuine question.

 

Your totally correct

 

The guy isnt going to buy his shares and reduce the debt without Hick reducing it by the same amount and Hicks has no money.

[Guest Ulysses Everett McGill]

I would have thought that they'd be looking at a rights/share issue (not sure of the correct term/distinction between the two), won't they? They won't be selling what they own; they'll be bringing new money into the club and investing it in debt repayment/new players/a new stadium. So they won't actually be reducing the value of their own holdings, just the proportion of the club they own. If not, what's the point in only selling a proportion of their shares?

 

Hicks didn't know anything about Gillett's guest up until yesterday morning, which leads me to believe that apart from any commercial link-up, yesterday was nothing more than posturing from all concerned.

 

As far as I understand it Gillett could in theory sell upto about 48% of his shareholding without even notifying Tom Hicks, BUT I doubt that would be a realistic possibilty considering the complexities of the financial arrangements regarding the club, loans etc.

 

This is also briliant PR for Khalid al-Faisal, who's now suddenly got a profile in English sport, despite him being a fair way down the food chain on the big list of Saudi Royalty.

 

Someone who knows far more about these situations than I do said to me a while ago that any serious investor would not be seen dead in the directors box at Anfield until a deal had already been completed.

[Joe Le Taxi]

 

Zeek?

 

Hicks didn't know anything about Gillett's guest up until yesterday morning, which leads me to believe that apart from any commercial link-up, yesterday was nothing more than posturing from all concerned.

 

As far as I understand it Gillett could in theory sell upto about 48% of his shareholding without even notifying Tom Hicks, BUT I doubt that would be a realistic possibilty considering the complexities of the financial arrangements regarding the club, loans etc.

 

This is also briliant PR for Khalid al-Faisal, who's now suddenly got a profile in English sport, despite him being a fair way down the food chain on the big list of Saudi Royalty.

 

Someone who knows far more about these situations than I do said to me a while ago that any serious investor would not be seen dead in the directors box at Anfield until a deal had already been completed.

 

Try saying that to Notts County's owners then. Speaking of them, you said to PM you as you know who they were!

[Guest Ulysses Everett McGill]

Try saying that to Notts County's owners then. Speaking of them, you said to PM you as you know who they were!

 

I actually meant that as an invite to Scouse Missionary, badly worded, my fault.

[Anubis]

Zeek?

 

 

 

Try saying that to Notts County's owners then. Speaking of them, you said to PM you as you know who they were!

If you look on the Notts County thread The Times broke cover and disclosed the identity of the 'lynchpin' behind the County deal. He doesn't seem very popular in Jersey (I think it was).

[Joe Le Taxi]

The Belgravia company what cocked up? I read the article and must of just missed that bit.

[Anubis]

The Belgravia company what cocked up? I read the article and must of just missed that bit.

I think it names the bloke behind Belgravia doesn't it. I know most of the media are going with his name now - Russel King.

 

More problems for Sven as Notts County takeover man Russell King fights allegations of £330,000 Rolls-Royce swindle | Mail Online

[Guest Ulysses Everett McGill]

I think it names the bloke behind Belgravia doesn't it. I know most of the media are going with his name now - Russel King.

 

More problems for Sven as Notts County takeover man Russell King fights allegations of £330,000 Rolls-Royce swindle | Mail Online

 

Belgravia

[Guest Ulysses Everett McGill]

Anymore to add on this Andy?, and no problem for yesterday. Thought you said you had your hair cut?

 

I have, layered, as is the fashion, was going for a feather cut, but I need to keep warm for the winter.

 

Anyway, these two characters, of which King is one, the other being Nathan Willett both have history.

 

They are also behind the Qadbak deal involving BMW Sauber which should also blow up over the next weeks.

 

From what I understand, the plan was to pick up the club for buttons with real cash (Which they did), make a load of noise with some names would know would get them in the paper like Sven and Campbell (Which they did) off the back of financial guarantees which may or may not involve forged documents, and then after the gates had doubled off the back of it (Which they also did) siphon as much money as they could out of it and then get out.

 

What they never banked on was getting rumbled, but legally, as they are so elusive it's a bit of a minefield.

 

The ones who I feel for most are those in charge of the fans trust as they sold thier shares for next to fuck all with a promise on a premium two years down the line had some easily attainable targets been met, but of course they never had any intention of being around in two years.

 

That is basically as much as I know on the situation

 

[EDIT] Just realised you were asking about the Saudi thing

 

All's I know about yesterday is that Hicks knew nothing about it, and when questioned about a takeover both Gillett

and Purslow knocked it back.

 

Love to know who egg'd George though

[RolandRat]

If this is true I wonder if its Hick selling and Gillett is talking with the prince to veto/not veto any potential deal like Hicks did with DIC not so long ago, but like Andy said above, its probably bolloxs.

[Joe Le Taxi]

I have, layered, as is the fashion, was going for a feather cut, but I need to keep warm for the winter.

 

Anyway, these two characters, of which King is one, the other being Nathan Willett both have history.

 

They are also behind the Qadbak deal involving BMW Sauber which should also blow up over the next weeks.

 

From what I understand, the plan was to pick up the club for buttons with real cash (Which they did), make a load of noise with some names would know would get them in the paper like Sven and Campbell (Which they did) off the back of financial guarantees which may or may not involve forged documents, and then after the gates had doubled off the back of it (Which they also did) siphon as much money as they could out of it and then get out.

 

What they never banked on was getting rumbled, but legally, as they are so elusive it's a bit of a minefield.

 

The ones who I feel for most are those in charge of the fans trust as they sold thier shares for next to fuck all with a promise on a premium two years down the line had some easily attainable targets been met, but of course they never had any intention of being around in two years.

 

That is basically as much as I know on the situation

 

[EDIT] Just realised you were asking about the Saudi thing

 

All's I know about yesterday is that Hicks knew nothing about it, and when questioned about a takeover both Gillett

and Purslow knocked it back.

 

Love to know who egg'd George though

 

How on earth do you manage to know all this stuff?

[Guest Ulysses Everett McGill]

How on earth do you manage to know all this stuff?

 

I make it all up

[Joe Le Taxi]

You would make a brilliant journalist.

[Carradona]

What's with the picture of Amanda?

[Guest Ulysses Everett McGill]

 

Indeed

[Jayesh1987]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[George Costanza]

I quite like his coat.

[Superjari]

I quite prefer his boots

[Carradona]

Gillett even has shit shoes. Shortarse, fat cunt.

[shanks69]

i prefare his money.

[Delmar]

 

A fake Rolex and an ugly tie, no hair, I could do that... Though I'd have a cool tie.

[George Costanza]

the tie spoils the outfit for me