Newcastle (A) - Sat 18th Feb 2023 (5:30pm)

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[BeefStroganoff]

3 hours ago, No2 said:

Fuck off you stupid cunt.

"Delighted" with the performance. Give me a fucking break. 

[No2]

14 minutes ago, BeefStroganoff said:

"Delighted" with the performance. Give me a fucking break. 

You have you're fun when we lose, you don't get to be an insufferable prick when we win.

[Reckoner]

1 hour ago, VERBAL DIARRHEA said:

I would pepper spray him from all angles.

Fair.

[CapeRed]

7 hours ago, TheBitch said:

I dunno, Allison kept us from being 2-0 down, fuck knows where we’d be this season without him. 

Isnt that what we bought him for ? Seen many a game at Anfield where a keeper has had an oustanding game . Admittedly he has had to make more saves this season but that is his job.

[Bobby Hundreds]

Once the nerves have gone I can look back on the game a bit more level headed. It's easy to cling to the negatives because they are the same ones we've been displaying all season, a lack of composure, disorganised without the ball and a real lack of quality at times with our passing and decision making but.. but there was a lot of positives we created great chances even before the sending off against a team that's been immense defensively, there looks to be more fluidity with the new players it's baby steps forward but it is going forward which is a relief to what we've seen. The worst thing that could happen for us would be another break I'm hoping we haven't got one have we.

[bossy]

Howe on Pope ‘ it’s a slippy surface and the ball hit his arm’. 

[Anubis]

Howe on Jack The Ripper:

 

”at that time of night, with the fog, the cobbled streets are slippy and as Jack fell the knife accidentally went in, spilling her insides onto the floor.”

[Barnesey]

When was the last time we outscored 10 men? We had a nasty habit last season of not managing to achieve that. 

[J-V]

We clearly took out foot off the gas when they went down to 11.  Still could and should have scored a few more.

[Anubis]

 

Dear Mr Howe,

My name is Ahmad al-Rabea, and I would like to tell you about my dear brother, Hassan, who was recently deported from Morocco to Saudi Arabia. He will be facing torture, unfair trial and maybe even the death penalty in the country that owns your football club.

I want to tell you and the Newcastle United players that sportswashing kills. Mohammed bin Salman’s (MBS) regime has invested billions of dollars in trying to whitewash its global image by promoting sports events and buying football teams like yours, while at the same time doubling the rate of executions back home since 2015.

I know that Newcastle are having a successful season, and it’s easy to ignore other issues when you are winning football matches. But some things are bigger than football, and Newcastle United’s success cannot be built off the back of a state that has executed more than 1,000 people since King Salman and his son MBS came to power eight years ago.

Since Saudi Arabia’s Public Investment Fund bought Newcastle United in October 2021, Saudi Arabia has executed 157 people, including children. Many of those who were executed were also football fans. At the same time dozens have been arbitrarily arrested and sentenced to up to 90 years in jail for exercising freedom of speech on social media.

My brother Hassan was abducted at Marrakech Airport on 14 January 2023 while he tried to travel to Turkey. When he legally left Saudi Arabia a year and two months ago he was not wanted by the Saudi security services. He travelled around several countries in Asia before arriving in Morocco, where he stayed for about five months. Then he was seized.

Hassan left Saudi Arabia because our family was being persecuted by the regime. Saudi security forces launched several raids to arrest our brother Munir and arbitrarily arrested our other brother, Ali.

Ali has recently been sentenced to death for speaking out against the Saudi regime. I fear that Hassan has been arrested and deported to Saudi Arabia to face the same penalty.

Saudi Arabian sportswashing is an attempt to cover up these crimes and the dark and oppressive reality of the Saudi regime. They are trying to distract the world from their human rights abuses, painting a positive picture of the country through association with sport and encouraging other states to cooperate and collaborate with Saudi Arabia.

But the actions of the regime are devastating: arbitrary arrest, torture, and deprivation of the right to liberty and life. For example, Salma al-Shehab and Nourah al-Qahtani have been jailed for 34 and 45 years just for tweeting. All of this should not be covered up with money, games, sports and celebrities.

You may think that in your position you cannot change the behaviour of governments. I don't believe this is true. The truth is that your club is owned by a repressive regime and you and your players are employed by them. If you say nothing about the gross human rights abuses and violations we are suffering then this is an acceptance of these violations. If you speak out against them you can save lives.

You can make a difference, Mr Howe. Newcastle United’s players and fans can, too. We know you don't support the atrocities carried out by the owners of the club. But if you spoke up for the young people on death row, and for my brother, you would be heard by the Saudi regime. It may be comforting to tell yourself there is nothing you can do, but it is not true.

If not now, then when?

Yours sincerely,

Ahmad

 

[Carra_is_legend]

Joelinton went down like a million times at Anfield "injured" but poor Eddie takes him off after going down once yesterday. Oh Eddie...

[El Rojo]

Am I correct in saying that Newcastle’s only two league defeats have been against us?

[No2]

18 minutes ago, El Rojo said:

Am I correct in saying that Newcastle’s only two league defeats have been against us?

Yes and their last home defeat before yesterday was also to us.

[gkmacca]

Eddie Howe. He should be Eddie Why. What a cynical liitle tit he is. Jeez he gets an easy ride these days. Here's his response to Pope's sending off:

 

"These things happen at such high speed, the conditions were difficult with wind and a slippy surface. Yes, it hit his arm. I thought the red card was harsh, the referee could have given a yellow".

 

It didn't happen at 'such high speed,' it didn't hit his arm he quite deliberately and blatantly put both hands on it, and there was absolutely no way any ref could have given a yellow and not been overturned. Oh yes, and if Klopp ever mentions the wind and/or a slippy surface in far more general terms he gets sneered at for weeks. 

 

You almost have to admire the feat of packing so much nonsense into three short sentences, but it's pathetic it got quoted without anyone seeming to question it. 

 

 

[dave u]

Sportswashing running strong in that one. 

[dave u]

2 hours ago, Anubis said:

 

Dear Mr Howe,

My name is Ahmad al-Rabea, and I would like to tell you about my dear brother, Hassan, who was recently deported from Morocco to Saudi Arabia. He will be facing torture, unfair trial and maybe even the death penalty in the country that owns your football club.

I want to tell you and the Newcastle United players that sportswashing kills. Mohammed bin Salman’s (MBS) regime has invested billions of dollars in trying to whitewash its global image by promoting sports events and buying football teams like yours, while at the same time doubling the rate of executions back home since 2015.

I know that Newcastle are having a successful season, and it’s easy to ignore other issues when you are winning football matches. But some things are bigger than football, and Newcastle United’s success cannot be built off the back of a state that has executed more than 1,000 people since King Salman and his son MBS came to power eight years ago.

Since Saudi Arabia’s Public Investment Fund bought Newcastle United in October 2021, Saudi Arabia has executed 157 people, including children. Many of those who were executed were also football fans. At the same time dozens have been arbitrarily arrested and sentenced to up to 90 years in jail for exercising freedom of speech on social media.

My brother Hassan was abducted at Marrakech Airport on 14 January 2023 while he tried to travel to Turkey. When he legally left Saudi Arabia a year and two months ago he was not wanted by the Saudi security services. He travelled around several countries in Asia before arriving in Morocco, where he stayed for about five months. Then he was seized.

Hassan left Saudi Arabia because our family was being persecuted by the regime. Saudi security forces launched several raids to arrest our brother Munir and arbitrarily arrested our other brother, Ali.

Ali has recently been sentenced to death for speaking out against the Saudi regime. I fear that Hassan has been arrested and deported to Saudi Arabia to face the same penalty.

Saudi Arabian sportswashing is an attempt to cover up these crimes and the dark and oppressive reality of the Saudi regime. They are trying to distract the world from their human rights abuses, painting a positive picture of the country through association with sport and encouraging other states to cooperate and collaborate with Saudi Arabia.

But the actions of the regime are devastating: arbitrary arrest, torture, and deprivation of the right to liberty and life. For example, Salma al-Shehab and Nourah al-Qahtani have been jailed for 34 and 45 years just for tweeting. All of this should not be covered up with money, games, sports and celebrities.

You may think that in your position you cannot change the behaviour of governments. I don't believe this is true. The truth is that your club is owned by a repressive regime and you and your players are employed by them. If you say nothing about the gross human rights abuses and violations we are suffering then this is an acceptance of these violations. If you speak out against them you can save lives.

You can make a difference, Mr Howe. Newcastle United’s players and fans can, too. We know you don't support the atrocities carried out by the owners of the club. But if you spoke up for the young people on death row, and for my brother, you would be heard by the Saudi regime. It may be comforting to tell yourself there is nothing you can do, but it is not true.

If not now, then when?

Yours sincerely,

Ahmad

 

 

Don't hold your breath on that, Ahmed. 

[dave u]

2 hours ago, Anubis said:

Howe on Jack The Ripper:

 

”at that time of night, with the fog, the cobbled streets are slippy and as Jack fell the knife accidentally went in, spilling her insides onto the floor.”

 

50/50 chance this is a real quote.

[Pidge]

 

Still utterly bemused by this, was convinced it was our free kick until the keeper placed the ball after...

[Carra_is_legend]

19 minutes ago, gkmacca said:

Eddie Howe. He should be Eddie Why. What a cynical liitle tit he is. Jeez he gets an easy ride these days. Here's his response to Pope's sending off:

 

"These things happen at such high speed, the conditions were difficult with wind and a slippy surface. Yes, it hit his arm. I thought the red card was harsh, the referee could have given a yellow".

 

It didn't happen at 'such high speed,' it didn't hit his arm he quite deliberately and blatantly put both hands on it, and there was absolutely no way any ref could have given a yellow and not been overturned. Oh yes, and if Klopp ever mentions the wind and/or a slippy surface in far more general terms he gets sneered at for weeks. 

 

You almost have to admire the feat of packing so much nonsense into three short sentences, but it's pathetic it got quoted without anyone seeming to question it. 

 

 

 

These are the simple moments a decent manager worth their salt will accept the red card and move on. Not even try and find an excuse, just say it's a mistake by the goalie, he is devastated and move on.

 

But not Eddie. Oh no. He has to be seen as defending his club and players at every opportunity, even when it's the most stupid thing to do. Because he has to please his Saudi mates for as long as possible. Poor Eddie will soon be very irrelevant for his Saudi mates.

[an tha]

9 minutes ago, Pidge said:

 

Still utterly bemused by this, was convinced it was our free kick until the keeper placed the ball after...

Was it offside - only thing I can think of, because no way is that a foul on the newcsstle player....

 

Unreal decision if not off.

[Razoray]

1 hour ago, El Rojo said:

Am I correct in saying that Newcastle’s only two league defeats have been against us?

And 24% of their goals conceded

[gkmacca]

I'm just surprised Tyler and Carragher didn't find the time to praise Newcastle's fitness team. After all, the impact they've had is extraordinary - from everyone in the team collapsing multiple times at Anfield last autumn from cramp, to only one player needing a single foot bend to be back on his feet late on in yesterday's game. What a transformation in just a few months. Maybe we can poach a couple of those specialists in the summer.

[Razoray]

11 minutes ago, an tha said:

Was it offside - only thing I can think of, because no way is that a foul on the newcsstle player....

 

Unreal decision if not off.

They took the free from where this incident took place so it can only have been for a foul by Nunez. Crazy stuff

[manwiththestick]

1 minute ago, gkmacca said:

I'm just surprised Tyler and Carragher didn't find the time to praise Newcastle's fitness team. After all, the impact they've had is extraordinary - from everyone in the team collapsing multiple times at Anfield last autumn from cramp, to only one player needing a single foot bend to be back on his feet late on in yesterday's game. What a transformation in just a few months. Maybe we can poach a couple of those specialists in the summer.

No doubt been mentioned in the thread but last night I thought Carragher was unbearable, if you didn't know the game in this country and was listening you'd have him down as an ex Newcastle player.

 

Tyler was Tyler, expected nothing less than his awful responses to our goals being beaten in enthusiasm by corner kicks for the opposition.