Coronavirus

[Rushies tash]

3 minutes ago, Colonel Bumcunt said:

That's patently not going to fly. 

 

HS2.

Brexit.

International aid. 

Military. 

Trident. 

Tax Havens. 

 

Take your pick. 

There are a sizable group of morons in this country who will believe whatever they are told to believe, whether that be incessant headlines about health tourism, to friendly news reports about waste in the NHS or social media stories about how much fat people cost us. They'll be sold the idea of insurance initially either through the idea of means testing NHS access (the poorest will still get free healthcare), or social media campaigns along the lines of  'why should they pay for some fat fucker's stomach stapling procedure'.

[Spy Bee]

13 minutes ago, Bobby Hundreds said:

The furlough extension was the right thing to do if Lockdowns and restrictions are going to continue. You can't cut off means of income and expect people to survive its not like we can all just go and live off the land. Whether lockdowns and restrictions solve the problem some other fuckers can debate that but until there's a vaccine people need to see light beyond 2020.

Maybe never. Even when it does arrive, if it does arrive, it's extremely unlikely to be a silver bullet.

12 minutes ago, Colonel Bumcunt said:

That's patently not going to fly. 

 

HS2.

Brexit.

International aid. 

Military. 

Trident. 

Tax Havens. 

 

Take your pick. 

It will. The media will see to that.

7 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

Spy Bee did you see this reply to you last night? 

Nope

2 minutes ago, Bruce Spanner said:

Pointless.

 

Not really. I was just pointing out your massive oversimplificaton.

[Bjornebye]

Just now, Spy Bee said:

Nope

 

Ok, you have now. Can I have an answer at all? 

[Spy Bee]

31 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

Ok, you have now. Can I have an answer at all? 

Nope

 

[Bjornebye]

2 minutes ago, Spy Bee said:

Nope

 

Hahahaha

[Barrington Womble]

22 hours ago, Spy Bee said:

 

Zoe suggesting that this could have passed peak.

It would seem logical when large swathes of the country were in tier 2 or 3 lockdown prior to today that that would happen. All of the data on Liverpool city council web site has suggested tier 3 was working and significantly reducing numbers. 

 

Today's latest Liverpool numbers (official), still show more decreases. About 50% of 3 weeks ago when tier 3 started. 

 

 

[Karl_b]

Perhaps this extended furlough scheme sets the precedent for implementing a UBI and/or adopting 4 day working weeks. Both are ideas that are floating around and have some degree of bi-partisan, international support but are currently thought to be decades off. Between that and a substantial Green New Deal my not all that well-informed, overly simplistic, utopian mind thinks there might be an economic route out of this.

[TheBitch]

1 hour ago, Colonel Bumcunt said:

 

I think the government should give most of the furlough money to local authorities and let them create short term environmental jobs.  Get a few million trees planted, get parks and playing fields repaired and curated. 

It also gets people outside exercising and working together to achieve something for their communities.  

Furlough money can then be offset against money otherwise needed to meet climate change goals. 

Hahahahahaha.  
 

What are these?

[Spy Bee]

57 minutes ago, Barrington Womble said:

It would seem logical when large swathes of the country were in tier 2 or 3 lockdown prior to today that that would happen. All of the data on Liverpool city council web site has suggested tier 3 was working and significantly reducing numbers. 

 

Today's latest Liverpool numbers (official), still show more decreases. About 50% of 3 weeks ago when tier 3 started. 

 

 

Numbers in Liverpool started reducing the week before tier 3 lockdown.

[Brownie]

4 minutes ago, Spy Bee said:

Numbers in Liverpool started reducing the week before tier 3 lockdown.

Proves that lockdown was too late then.

[Spy Bee]

2 minutes ago, Brownie said:

Proves that lockdown was too late then.

Seems it proves whatever any individual wants it to prove.

[Brownie]

9 minutes ago, Spy Bee said:

Seems it proves whatever any individual wants it to prove.

Haha okay mate.

[Bjornebye]

12 minutes ago, Spy Bee said:

Seems it proves whatever any individual wants it to prove.

492 deaths yesterday. We are in a second wave. Thats why we are in a second lockdown. 

[Spy Bee]

8 minutes ago, Brownie said:

Haha okay mate.

Well, you could argue that the lockdown came too late, you could argue that the lockdown wasn't necessary, because cases were already dropping. You could argue anything you want, but nothing is difinitive.

[Harry's Lad]

I would think day on day increases in infections, hospitalisations, people on ventilators and death rates would say otherwise. 

[Brownie]

5 minutes ago, Spy Bee said:

Well, you could argue that the lockdown came too late, you could argue that the lockdown wasn't necessary, because cases were already dropping. You could argue anything you want, but nothing is difinitive.

The point of lockdowns is to drive down cases. If the cases are already coming down then you have mistimed your lockdown.

 

That’s just a fact.

 

Not offering an opinion on lockdowns themselves.

[Spy Bee]

5 minutes ago, Brownie said:

The point of lockdowns is to drive down cases. If the cases are already coming down then you have mistimed your lockdown.

 

That’s just a fact.

 

Not offering an opinion on lockdowns themselves.

I know what the point of lockdowns are, but as we are not trying to eliminate the virus, then there must be a perceived acceptable level of infection/hospitalisation/death. Saying it was too late is just your valid opinion, not a fact. The WHO say they should be an absolute last resort. 

 

9 minutes ago, Harry's Lad said:

I would think day on day increases in infections, hospitalisations, people on ventilators and death rates would say otherwise. 

Infections started to fall, the deaths and hospitalisations were already in the post. 

[Bjornebye]

2 minutes ago, Spy Bee said:

I know what the point of lockdowns are, but as we are not trying to eliminate the virus, then there must be a perceived acceptable level of infection/hospitalisation/death. Saying it was too late is just your valid opinion, not a fact. The WHO say they should be an absolute last resort. 

 

Infections started to fall, the deaths and hospitalisations were already in the post. 

Are you suggesting that lockdowns aren't a last resort? 

 

"deaths and hospitalisations were already in the post"

 

Fucking hell, and you wont even say if you think we are in a second wave because you know full well we are yet you don't want to admit it. You did see my question last night you just avoided it.

 

Shit chatters must chat shit though you shit chatting shit chatter. 

[Harry's Lad]

4 minutes ago, Spy Bee said:

I know what the point of lockdowns are, but as we are not trying to eliminate the virus, then there must be a perceived acceptable level of infection/hospitalisation/death. Saying it was too late is just your valid opinion, not a fact. The WHO say they should be an absolute last resort. 

 

Infections started to fall, the deaths and hospitalisations were already in the post. 

Let's see what the figures suggest over the next few days before we make arses of ourselves.

[Tony Moanero]

@Spy Bee is still posting complete and utter bollocks in this thread?

 

Give it a rest.

[Barrington Womble]

48 minutes ago, Spy Bee said:

Numbers in Liverpool started reducing the week before tier 3 lockdown.

I thought the peak was the actual day we went into lockdown, about 3500 new cases. 

[Bjornebye]

6 minutes ago, Harry's Lad said:

Let's see what the figures suggest over the next few days before we make arses of ourselves.

It's a bit late for him 

[Brownie]

7 minutes ago, Tony Moanero said:

@Spy Bee is still posting complete and utter bollocks in this thread?

 

Give it a rest.

Disappeared down a molehill and I have no desire in joining him *slaps self in face*.

[Spy Bee]

42 minutes ago, Barrington Womble said:

I thought the peak was the actual day we went into lockdown, about 3500 new cases. 

Peak was before 14th when Liverpool entered tier 3 

 

[Spy Bee]

Delayed update today... normally not good news.