General Election 2019

[aRdja]

3 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

He added that its planned rise in corporation tax would be "passed on" to workers in the form of lower wages, and to consumers in the form of higher prices.

That’s a business decision really, and they could sacrifice their margins really.

[SasaS]

3 hours ago, Nelly-Torres said:

I've come to terms with it being very very likely that Cuntface will still be PM after this election. 

 

But, I also can't take that YouGov poll as bring accurate. That the Tories will be about 140 seats ahead of the next closest party? People above have raised issues regarding the timing of the poll. Plus, I can't help but think that the surge in voter registration in the 18-35 age range hasn't been factored in and that this could make a huge difference. 

 

Then there's some of the recent NHS stuff that Labour have put out. It's a bit vague and there's no "gotcha" the NHS is up for sale line in the documents. But, it still seems to be a message that is resonating with some of the electorate. I also think that Johnson's refusal to do the climate change debate, if seized upon during the debate, on screen, by the likes of Corbyn and the Greens (Lucas, I presume), then this could encourage the younger voting bracket to get out and vote anybody but Tory. Then there's the tactical voting angle. 

 

Only time will tell. And there's time to change minds still. But, I can't be having that poll prediction myself. 

There were a couple of articles saying that the surge in new young voters may be overestimated, something along the lines that many are already registered, which cannot be checked before the official electoral roll comes out. It would, however speak in favour of their intention to actually vote. Also, I thin there was something on BBC about the biggest surge being in the over 45 category, from 16 in 2017 to 20 percent of all new registrars. 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

1 hour ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

Nothing I didn't know already, but maybe news to some.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50585818

 

 

Presumably it's news to the 163 economists who wrote to the Financial Times to say that Labour’s policies are not just credible but necessary. 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

1 hour ago, viRdjil said:

That’s a business decision really, and they could sacrifice their margins really.

Plus, of course, Labour will increase workers' rights to resist pay cuts and the efficient functioning of a competitive market would keep prices affordable. 

 

All in all, private companies would just have to get used to the moderate levels of Corporation Tax seen elsewhere in Europe. 

[Denny Crane]

Labour's conference motion and the Conservatives position is identical yet... 

 

[Megadrive Man]

1 hour ago, SasaS said:

There were a couple of articles saying that the surge in new young voters may be overestimated, something along the lines that many are already registered, which cannot be checked before the official electoral roll comes out. It would, however speak in favour of their intention to actually vote. Also, I thin there was something on BBC about the biggest surge being in the over 45 category, from 16 in 2017 to 20 percent of all new registrars. 

I know that Labour have been working hard to get lots of homeless people to register to vote, and also I noticed on  Lee Andersons Facebook/twitter he said that lots of the people who were voting for him had never voted before.

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

Haha. Fair play to Channel 4. 

 

 

[Bjornebye]

He sent his dad and a clearly beaked up Gove instead 

 

 

 

 

[aRdja]

She’s a good egg Ash.

 

 

[aRdja]

Barry Gardiner slapping Andrew Neil about here.

 

 

[Bobby Hundreds]

1 hour ago, Nelly-Torres said:

Haha. Fair play to Channel 4. 

 

 

Tories have said they will review channel 4s broadcasting obligations  if they win the election to see if channel 4s remit best served the public's interest.

 

[Anubis]

They sent Gove and he was politely told to fuck off. 

[clockspeed]

Sorry to bang on but when asked outright 4 times when he going on a Neil interview he mumbled 4 times I will do all sorts of interviews with all sorts of people. Others will decide his schedule. Well when everyone bashing JCs leadership that's some comment to utter. How hard is to say next Friday 7 pm make it happen that's a leader. Why is Neil not calling him out.

[Bobby Hundreds]

Because Neil is a Tory bastard.

[Jairzinho]

49 minutes ago, viRdjil said:

Barry Gardiner slapping Andrew Neil about here.

 

 

I wish Corbyn was capable of this sort of stuff.

 

Neil was genuinely stumped having his own fucking words quoted back at him.

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

As Labour are allegedly a "leave party" does this now mean that the Lib Dems are also a leave party as their flip flopping Brexit policy now seems practically the same as Labour's? 

 

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/liberal-democrats-candidate-layla-moran-says-party-is-going-back-to-plan-a-by-scrapping-pledge-to-a4298926.html

[aRdja]

8 minutes ago, Nelly-Torres said:

As Labour are allegedly a "leave party" does this now mean that the Lib Dems are also a leave party as their flip flopping Brexit policy now seems practically the same as Labour's? 

 

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/liberal-democrats-candidate-layla-moran-says-party-is-going-back-to-plan-a-by-scrapping-pledge-to-a4298926.html

That’s a bit confusing. So what’s the difference between their position and Labour’s then? Is their version of the referendum is to pit remain vs Boris’ deal?

[Bjornebye]

 

 

 

 

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

3 minutes ago, viRdjil said:

That’s a bit confusing. So what’s the difference between their position and Labour’s then? Is their version of the referendum is to pit remain vs Boris’ deal?

I'm not sure. Their policy might have changed since your post. 

[aRdja]

Just now, Nelly-Torres said:

I'm not sure. Their policy might have changed since your post. 

@Strontium Dog™ could you please help clarify? 

[Anubis]

Give with no sense of irony over his boss being a massive shithouse.

 

Interesting to note that the debate is being widely described as excellent, mature and respectful, and appears to have been all the better for not having the muppets in attendance.

[Strontium]

1 minute ago, viRdjil said:

@Strontium Dog™ could you please help clarify? 

 

What is it that requires clarifying? Our policy is identical to what it has been for months: Revoke if we win the election, Referendum if we don't.

[aRdja]

1 minute ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

What is it that requires clarifying? Our policy is identical to what it has been for months: Revoke if we win the election, Referendum if we don't.

Remain vs what?

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

The Lib Dems are now officially a leave party. 

[Strontium]

1 minute ago, viRdjil said:

Remain vs what?

 

We've a deal that has been negotiated, have we not?