Man City - the new bitters?

[Harry Squatter]

[Bob]

You love to see it. Didn’t check in on the score as assumed they’d win comfortably so to see they’ve lost badly is a wonderful end to the evening.

 

 

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

I missed the last 5 minutes or so, so have only just witnessed the Sterling miss. 

 

Hahahaha hahahahahahaha hahaha. 

 

The kip of Ederson for Lyon's third goal too! 

[Harry Squatter]

On 09/08/2020 at 22:28, Colonel Bumcunt said:

There's an art to what Klopp does, which is why he loves the game and is chilled, he's enjoying the details and the longer-term development of players.  

 

Guardiola doesn't look like he enjoys what he does, and every player looks estranged from him, he isn't paternal or fraternal with them, he's just wired and intense all the time and they're all expendable.

 

Klopp has massively developed Trent, Robbo, Gomez, from unremarkable players when he first encountered them.

 

He's also found another gear out of otherwise 'ordinary' footballers, not given a second glance by other teams, like Gini, Firmino, Matip, Henderson, to the point they are featured as Balon D'or nominees. 

 

And then he's found improvements in the games of the elite level players he has bought, such as Alisson, Van Dijk, Salah, Mane, Fabinho. 

 

Added to that, he's now preparing Elliott, Williams, Jones and Hoever, for life in a world class club.  

 

And yes, there are still question-marks around the development of some players he has bought; Keita, Chamberlain, Minamino and Shaqiri.

 

 

But what has Guardiola done for his Man City team?  

We were all expecting John Stones to push-on and develop, and he seems like the latest to be chucked aside by Guardiola. 

 

That first season, he brought in Gundogan, Nolito, Sane, Stones, Bravo, Jesus, and Zinchenko.  Personally I'm disappointed by Gabriel Jesus, he's half the player he seemed to be touted as. 

Sane, wow, what a player, but Guardiola just couldn't do anything with him.

He bothered even less with Nolito.  

 

Since then, 2017, he's basically bought finished articles for big money, so as to avoid the need to develop anyone.  Ferran Torres is perhaps the biggest risk he has taken with a buy in the last 3 years.

 

But behind the scenes, the same thing is happening with the youth players.   They are signing players left, right and centre from all over the world, many of them for undisclosed amounts.  Tons of them. It's clear that Guardiola hasn't got 'the time' to devote to proper development, and he's just injecting the process with cash.  And at the same time, they're selling these on without ever getting them near the first team. 

 

Some choice cuts of youth buys since 2017:

 

Eric Garcia - 1.4m

Douglas Luiz - 10m

Luka Ilic - 2.5m

Mohammed Aminu - 2m 

Phillip Sandler - 2.6m

Morgan Rogers - 4m

Felix Correia - 3.2m

Pablo Moreno - 9m

 

 

But I bet you would be surprised to hear how much City raised in the last 2 years from youth-team sales.  It'll be a lot more than we know, due to the amount of undisclosed fees.  Some include:

 

Maffeo - 9m

Gunn - 13m

Brahim - 15m

Matondo - 11m

Luiz - 15m

Correia - 9.5m

 

But the weirdest deals stand out:

 

In 2017 City signed a 24 year old Nigerian winger called Kayode, from Austria Wien, for an undisclosed amount.  

Immediately out on loan to Girona.  Next season, sold to Shakhtar for 3m.  Who then loaned him to Gaziantep.

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Angelino is a left back who City brought-in when he was 18, but they sold him for £5m in 2018 to PSV without him playing a game for them, but then end up buying him back the following season for £xm, and after 12 appearances last year they subsequently just loaned him out to RB Leipzig. 

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Which 25 year old American goalkeeper did Man City sign last season for about 7m, but then got sent on loan to Dusseldorf?  Zack Steffen. 

Excellent analysis Russ

[chrisbonnie]

Just now, Nelly-Torres said:

I missed the last 5 minutes or so, so have only just witnessed the Sterling miss. 

 

Hahahaha hahahahahahaha hahaha. 

 

The kip of Ederson for Lyon's third goal too! 

and to think city fans would have you think he's better than Allison...

 

firstly, he fucking isnt, because he's shit at doing the most required thing from a goalkeeper, and thats making saves.

 

Ad secondly, Allison is much better looking, like much much better looking #notgay

[Stickman]

Oh dear poor Pep

 

@MiguelDelaney

This time, no appeals, no excuses. Guardiola has again failed in CL. He can't keep pointing to freak results, or moments. This is on him, and a cowardly set-up No semi-finals in four years is an awful return for the most expensive project in football

[halewood pete]

[bizzle10]

7 minutes ago, Stickman said:

Oh dear poor Pep

 

@MiguelDelaney

This time, no appeals, no excuses. Guardiola has again failed in CL. He can't keep pointing to freak results, or moments. This is on him, and a cowardly set-up No semi-finals in four years is an awful return for the most expensive project in football

Pellegrini reached a semi final with team including Hart and Mangala

[Davelfc]

[Trumo]

9 minutes ago, Stickman said:

Oh dear poor Pep

 

@MiguelDelaney

This time, no appeals, no excuses. Guardiola has again failed in CL. He can't keep pointing to freak results, or moments. This is on him, and a cowardly set-up No semi-finals in four years is an awful return for the most expensive project in football

 

Yep, Sheikh Mansour has poured billions of pounds of his own money in.

[Baltar]

It's a conspiracy of course, this was planned by UEFA to deny the noble Citizens their rightful place as champions of Europe. I guarantee those dastardly scousers at Liverpool had something to do with this too.

[Babb'sBurstNad]

Well, at least now England fans can stop talking about why Kane didn't square it to Sterling.

[aws]

Never rated the bald fraud. 

[Juniper]

Hahaha!

[DalyanPete]

2 hours ago, aws said:

Never rated the bald fraud. 

exactly

[Leyton388]

 

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

[Baltar]

7 minutes ago, aws said:

Never rated the bald fraud. 

The most overrated manager of all time. Very good but not the greatest manager to have walked the earth as some idiots claim.

[lifetime fan]

Pep Guardiola has spent £750m at Manchester City since joining the club in 2016 and has still yet to go further in the Champions League than David Moyes for Manchester United in 13/14.

[Lee909]

Just now, lifetime fan said:

Pep Guardiola has spent £750m at Manchester City since joining the club in 2016 and has still yet to go further in the Champions League than David Moyes for Manchester United in 13/14.

Probably top a billion over the summer. They'll spend like fuck

[TheDrowningMan]

3 minutes ago, Lee909 said:

Probably top a billion over the summer. They'll spend like fuck

Spend like fuck, probably win the league because the dross will be quaking in their boots and settling for a 4-0 loss before kick-off, retain the Carabao Cup, fail again in the CL and the pundits will be waxing lyrical about miracle man Pap who builds teams and does things the right way.

[Creator Supreme]

In  case I haven't said it already - ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

[TheDrowningMan]

Perpetual Big-Match Flop De Bitter; not a champion of self-awareness.

 

 

[Anubis]

 

 

[Barrington Womble]

1 hour ago, clangers said:

Clearly a conspiracy. Fixed by UEFA as revenge for the CL ban ruling.

There's more than one way to kick a team out of Europe! Good work uefa. 

 

I actually think it's on all of us to fuel their mind that this is deffo corrupt and uefa are just fixing it. 

51 minutes ago, Nelly-Torres said:

I missed the last 5 minutes or so, so have only just witnessed the Sterling miss. 

 

Hahahaha hahahahahahaha hahaha. 

 

The kip of Ederson for Lyon's third goal too! 

He was shite for the 2nd too. Personally I don't get what he's good at, he barely saves a fucking thing. It's like watching mignolet with better kicking and somehow shitter hair. 

48 minutes ago, Stickman said:

Oh dear poor Pep

 

@MiguelDelaney

This time, no appeals, no excuses. Guardiola has again failed in CL. He can't keep pointing to freak results, or moments. This is on him, and a cowardly set-up No semi-finals in four years is an awful return for the most expensive project in football

I was going to say it's nice to see the fans turn on him, shocked to realise it's the press. Very funny. I'm wondering when the press are going to realise what an absolute bunch of bottlers this team and manager are. 

19 minutes ago, Baltar said:

The most overrated manager of all time. Very good but not the greatest manager to have walked the earth as some idiots claim.

He's only the 3rd best manager in the north west and honestly on performance this year, we could maybe even put him behind the fucking rice Krispie kid.